Curse of the Crimson Throne


Curse of the Crimson Throne


Hello everyone,
i was hoping that someone would be able to help me out here.
i am getting ready to run this path. i have not ran anything from pathfinder yet, however, i have been a DM since 1st ED. But my question here lies with the harrow deck, the pawns, and character creation. I gave everyone the Heroic style. Please let me know any ideas of suggestions anyone may have.


Umm, not to be rude, but could you actually ask a question about what you're having trouble with instead of some vague topics?


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Not entirely certain what your question(s) is, but I'll toss out some things based on your post:

Harrow Deck --> The harrow deck is a very cool theme builder if done correctly, and it gives you a way to feed info to the group to keep them on track and some fun buffs for the players. If you don't want to purchase the official one, you can use a deck of playing cards as explained in the Edge of Anarchy module. Paizo also offers the rules for the official harrow deck to be downloaded for free, so you can get some more detailed descriptions of what each card represents. That said, if you can afford a few extra bucks, the official harrow deck gets a much better response from the players (it did with mine, anyway).

My suggestion here is to set up your Harrow readings ahead of time, and just stack the deck when it comes time to deal it out. This avoids you scouring through the list of card descriptions (even longer if you have to figure out what the six of diamonds is) to determine what the fortune means. You can also throw in the cards that the module authors make special mention of. Planning ahead keeps your game running smoothly and allows for the best possible fortune, tailored by you for your players.

Pawns --> I am guessing that you are referring to Pawns like the Bestiary Box and NPC Codex Box? There are no pawns released for CotCT, but I think there are Paper Minis if you want to get your crafting on and make minis that way.

Character Creation --> This is a pretty broad topic, so I won't go into too much here. Just make sure everyone skims the player's guide (available as a free download on this site somewhere) and has one Campaign Trait tying them to the story.

Heroic style --> Not sure what you are talking about, so I cannot comment... unless you are running this in 3.5? I haven't played 3.5 since Pathfinder was an option (and I will never go back), so I'm slowly losing all knowledge of the old system. I guess one advantage of 3.5 is that you won't have to convert the adventure path to PFRPG. In my opinion, if you play it in 3.5 and go with something higher than the 15/14/13/12/10/8 array, your players' characters will be more powerful than the adventure anticipates, so you may need to bolster up the threats a little bit here and there.

Anyway, CotCT is an awesome adventure. Have fun!


Thank you Knick...that was more than helpful. and the Heroic is the type of ability rolls i gave everyone.
yes i am trying to buy the harrow deck and they are so hard to find since they are out of stock and no reprints coming anytime soon.
also the paper minis... are they that good? do you have to build them?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

If you are going to run with high-stat PCs, you are definitely going to have to beef up the bad guys more than converting them to Pathfinder already does.

As for the paper minis: you do have to build them. The instructions on how to do it are a free download on the site, so you can see what you are getting into first.

As for quality? Well, they don't hold a candle to pawns or pathfinder minis, but they get the point across well, and slapping a colossal Cindermaw on the table is a lot of fun.

You are probably out of luck getting a Harrow deck (ebay maybe?) until the new edition comes out. Until then, Edge of Anarchy includes an appendix on how to convert a pack of playing cards. I'd probably bite the bullet and Sharpie up the cards for quick reference.

Hope that helps!

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