Ways to get full movement in full-plate?


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Liberty's Edge

Are there any items or feats that would grant a paladin the ability to move at normal speed when using a full-plate armor?

Sczarni

Take 2 levels in the Hellknight Prestige Class (and purchase a set of Hellknight Plate, which is basically Full Plate but better). If you take 3 instead, and dedicate yourself to the Order of the God Claw, you can take the Travel Domain and increase your base speed by 10 feet.

Liberty's Edge

Can't take a prc. I can take that one feat that allows me to get spells from other classes though. Is there no spell that does this?


So far as I know, no, there isn't a feat that'd help you out. The second level Paladin spell Effortless Armor, however, does this - for 1 minute/level.

Scarab Sages

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If you're looking for spells, there's: Longstrider (Ranger/Druid 1): adds 10 feet to base speed. Lasts 1hr per level.


if ur willing to multiclass travel domain power. its an untyped bonus if I recall correctly so u can stack it with other things.

Sczarni

There's a feat, Fleet, that adds +5 feet to your movement speed. If you're a small-sized Paladin that essentially does the same thing.


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Boots of Striding and Springing are 5,500 and grant 10 to your movement speed. Or Boots of Haste since those'll give ya 30, but those are kinda high level.


Second Effortless Armor. It'll reduce your check penalty by a few, too! It saved my inquisitor's butt on some critical acrobatics checks once.

Dark Archive

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Quick questions

1. Full speed in full plate or 30 foot move in fullplate? (These are two very different things, the 30foot movement options dont help with haste, flying, tumble checks are impossible still etc).

2. Fleet is limited to light or no armor and thus does not apply at all

For full speed (thus allowing haste to put you at 60feet, and allowing you to make acrobatics checks to tumble in full plate) you have only 2 options, Fighter 4 + Sash of the war champion, or Hellknight 2 plus hellknight plate

For 30 foot move speed in full plate you have a variety of options the easiest is the boots of springing and striding. (Unsanctioned knowledge wont help as Longstrider is not a bard, oracle, cleric or inquisitor spell)


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A dwarf can move at full speed in heavy armor.

Multiclassing three levels in fighter gives Armor Training 1, allowing you to move at full speed in medium armor. Acquiring a sash of the war champion (Ultimate Magic; 4,000 gp) improves that to Armor Training 2 ("The wearer treats his fighter level as 4 higher than normal for the purpose of the armor training and bravery class features."), allowing full movement in heavy armor. Alternately, mithral heavy armor costs 9,000 gp extra and counts as medium armor for everything except proficiency (same end result to move speed, but you can use a different chest slot item).

Grand Lodge

Get to 7th level as a Fighter.

Sczarni

His character is a Paladin.

Liberty's Edge

Caderyn, thanks for that question. I'm specifically looking for full speed in full plate, not just 30ft move in full plate. It's a minor but important distinction, for a reason you mentioned (haste).

It looks like I'll have to make do without being able to get it.


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Three levels of fighter and mithral fullplate? >.>


Well, there's your horse too.

Liberty's Edge

I realize there are ways to do it if I wanted to dip into other classes. I was looking for a way to get it while strictly staying as a paladin.

One thing I'm curious about. Say I went with the Sacred Servant archetype, and I take the Travel domain. That gives him +10ft movement by default. So with no armor, he has 40ft movement. So, a couple of questions:
1. In full plate, is he now still down to 20ft, or is he down to 30ft?
2. Since he gets the Longstrider spell as a domain spell, does the +10ft enhancement stack with the Travel domain untyped bonus?

What would his total speed be in full plate with the Travel domain bonus, and the Longstrider spell?


Coinshot Colton wrote:

I realize there are ways to do it if I wanted to dip into other classes. I was looking for a way to get it while strictly staying as a paladin.

One thing I'm curious about. Say I went with the Sacred Servant archetype, and I take the Travel domain. That gives him +10ft movement by default. So with no armor, he has 40ft movement. So, a couple of questions:
1. In full plate, is he now still down to 20ft, or is he down to 30ft?
2. Since he gets the Longstrider spell as a domain spell, does the +10ft enhancement stack with the Travel domain untyped bonus?

What would his total speed be in full plate with the Travel domain bonus, and the Longstrider spell?

Here's the info on your adjusted movement rate. Just scroll down.

And yes, untyped bonuses stack with everything.


Coinshot Colton wrote:
Are there any items or feats that would grant a paladin the ability to move at normal speed when using a full-plate armor?

Depending on how your GM rules, Sash of the War Champion and Mithril Full Plate may do the trick for you.

The plate is treated as medium armor and the sash, if it gives you Armor Training 1, lets you move in medium armor at full speed.

And your proficient in heavy armor so can wear mithril full plate.


Make this out of mithral?


The description on Celestial Plate specifically says it's made of silver. (Celestial Armor says silver or gold). I don't think it's intended to allow modification by the effects of other special materials (or even that other materials work in their creation at all).


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The best answer is to be a dwarf, really. Then any boosts to your speed are enjoyed in full.

Grand Lodge

Nefreet wrote:
His character is a Paladin.

Than he's in luck... he's got a spell for that, as mentioned earlier. Otherwise there isn't much. You're really not expected to be nimble while wearing a heavy tin can.


Archaeik wrote:
The description on Celestial Plate specifically says it's made of silver. (Celestial Armor says silver or gold). I don't think it's intended to allow modification by the effects of other special materials (or even that other materials work in their creation at all).

Not anymore it doesn't.

Silver Crusade

Anything in new books to solve this issue?


Variant multiclassing a fighter nets you armor training 1 at 7th level. By then you have mithral fullplate.


Nefreet wrote:
There's a feat, Fleet, that adds +5 feet to your movement speed. If you're a small-sized Paladin that essentially does the same thing.

Fleet only works with light (or no) armor and a light load.

Won't work with full plate.


Bizbag wrote:
The best answer is to be a dwarf, really. Then any boosts to your speed are enjoyed in full.

Not really, Dwarves don't go any slower in heavy armor... but their base move is already 20. So Haste still only gets you to 40.

I just realized recently with my Dwarf that those boots of Striding and springing actually give you an anhancement bonus, meaning that he 'normally' now has 30' like the rest of the party... but when he gets hasted he'll still only get up to 40, equal to double his 'normal speed' as another enhancement bonus...

That one stung a bit.


Using the Unsanctioned Knowledge feat to add Expeditious Retreat to your spell list is a favourite in my group.


We need a paladin archetype that gives armor training. I Haven't found on yet... I feel like it should be a thing.


Also of consideration is that you can not use acrobatics to avoid AoO's if your movement is slowed by armor.
Things that just increase your movement back up to 30, won't help there.

You need to remove the actual penalty for wearing the armor.

In those instances, dwarf is good, even at 20'. =)


Variant Multiclass fighter, take armor training from that, add in Improved Bravery or Armed Bravery later on and have the best Will saves in the game on top of the ability to have the best AC.

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master_marshmallow wrote:

Variant Multiclass fighter, take armor training from that, add in Improved Bravery or Armed Bravery later on and have the best Will saves in the game on top of the ability to have the best AC.

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Mithral Fullplate and/or Boots Of Striding and Springing, if you don’t want to be worrying about class features or feats to try and increase it that way.


A combat trained horse comes for 300g. The pony version is much cheaper, for some reason: 45g. Yes, riding into battle is not always an option, but often enough to make these few coins worthwhile. Since monsters become increasingly deadly for such an animal over the course of levels, it's just an intermediate solution until you make it to armor training I from VMC or the Hellknight prestige class.


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Don't forget Ironbound Master

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