Reign of Winter (Inactive)

Game Master Just a Mort

Thats not a weapon.

With a shrug, Mr. Whiskers makes his way up the stairs. Nodding to Einar, he is ready to meet Rohkar.

Thats not a weapon.

With a shrug, Mr. Whiskers makes his way up the stairs. Nodding to Einar, he is ready to meet Rohkar.

what? That's not leather armor and a shortsword?

Up the stairs

As Einar shoulders the door in, the party sees an L-shaped table with many chairs takes up most of the floor space in this loft.
There is a man with mop like brown hair pouring over a map of Heldren at the end of the table. He is laying out why tokens, surrounding the town of Heldren. "How many times did I tell you knock first..." He rants, irritated. He looks up, realizes that it is not his bandits. "Oh."

A second smaller table sits near the entrance, and several windows look over the snowy grounds of the lodge. In the southwest corner, a large map hangs on the wall, opposite another door in the northeast wall. The party sees 2 walking bones radiating frost in the room.

Cadence Init: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 2 = 13
Einar Init: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 2 = 18
Mr Whiskers Init: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19
Crummock Init: 1d20 - 2 ⇒ (19) - 2 = 17
BBEG: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 2 = 4
bones: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (12) + 6 = 18

Knowledge religion, Cadence: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19

Mr Whiskers, bones, Einar, Crumock, Cadence, Bbeg

Cadence recognizes those walking bones as frost skeletons. They're similar to those the parry fought in the Tower trying to rescue Balanar. They are undead, resistant to physical damage except for bludgeoning, anyone standing next to them or hitting them with natural attacks takes 1d6 cold damage. And of course they blow up when they die.

Delay. I can't see anything in the room and there isn't a spot for me to stand.

One of the bones decides to give Einar a good clawing.

CLAW: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (12) + 2 = 14
CLAW: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (5) + 2 = 7

The other decides to chillax until there is room.

cold damage on Einar: 1d6 ⇒ 1

it's going to get worse before it gets better ;)
is Cadences flag up, if so please add 1 to everything.

Einar seeing his enemy in the room begins to rage, his body tranforms: His ankles and feet shift becoming more animal like, his hands also grew larger with talons, now appearing as claws, his maw extended and his eyes grew red, his small black horns became more prominent as his skin went from pale to shiny. He drops the glaive and Roaring ”rrrroooaaaarrrrrrr” attacks the skeleton right in front of him with tooth and claw.

Rage round 1/3 remaining, Full Attack: maw, claw @ 2. + flag
attack: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 7 + 1 = 20 for damage: 1d6 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 6 + 1 = 8
attack: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 7 + 1 = 10 for damage: 1d6 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 6 + 1 = 10
attack: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 7 + 1 = 22 for damage: 1d6 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 6 + 1 = 8

if by chance this one dies, he will step into the room in it's spot

Yes, her flag would be out. We are lined up in front of a door waiting to hit the BBEG. If she or Mr. Whiskers had any buff spells, they would have been cast.

If it goes down, are you going to 5' step into the room?

The first bite drops the first skeleton. Its like biting a chunk of ice.

cold damage: 1d6 ⇒ 3

It goes kaboom, showering Einar with ice shards.

cold damage: 1d6 ⇒ 4

Einar reflex for half: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (8) + 2 = 10

I suppose you 5 ft in to get the 2nd?

He then moves into the room to strike at the second one, landing with his second claw. He feels right hand grow numb.

cold damage: 1d6 ⇒ 6

It goes kaboom too, showering Einar with ice shards.

cold damage: 1d6 ⇒ 4

Einar reflex for half: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (15) + 2 = 17

Total, Einar, take 15pts cold damage.

Yes, her flag would be out. We are lined up in front of a door waiting to hit the BBEG. If she or Mr. Whiskers had any buff spells, they would have been cast.

If it goes down, are you going to 5' step into the room?

yes, if it is possible, also if the first and second blow kills it he would step in and use the third blow on the second skeleton

Done. I assume that's the way you'd want to go...heh. I say you've got balls.

Mr. Whiskers scurries forward to the spot Einar just vacated and looks into the room. Seeing Rohkar, he casts his Daze spell.

I assume others will be able to move past me here.

The man looks shocked as Einar finishes his minions off in short order, then his eyes glaze over as Mr Whiskers spell catches him.

will save: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (2) + 5 = 7

are the little round stools, difficult terrain?
what would be the acrobatics or climb check for Einar to get on the table to attack next round?
awwww, he failed his will save, there may not be a next round...

DT, not that it matters

Cadence comes into the room, takes a hand off the guisarme to hit Einar with the CLW wand, then drops the wand behind her to put both hands on the guisarme and threaten the baddie over the table.

CLW on Einar: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9

Taking advantage of the man's dazed status, Crummock maneuvers his way around to the other side.

Double move.

I don't get a turn due to daze, so its back to the party, starting from Einar, again.

Einar quickly moves through the room, knocking over a chair as he does so. Roaring at the necromancer ” Yr wyf yn eich marwolaeth” He slashes with both hands and bites at the mans throat.

Rage round 2/2 remaining, Full Attack: maw, claw @ 2: flag
attack: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (9) + 7 + 1 = 17 for damage: 1d6 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 6 + 1 = 10
attack: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (9) + 7 + 1 = 17 for damage: 1d6 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 6 + 1 = 13
attack: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 7 + 1 = 12 for damage: 1d6 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 6 + 1 = 8

Crummock jabs at the man with his starknife.

MW Cold Iron Starknife: 1d20 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 6 + 1 = 10, for 1d4 + 5 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 5 + 1 = 9 damage.

Einar bites him on his shoulder and he yelps in pain. Crummocks blade does not manage to pierce through his leather armor.

Still up, chair is DT, so no full attacks.

Einar bites him on his shoulder and he yelps in pain.

Still up, chair is DT, so no full attacks.

oops, I knew that, copy and pasted the wrong attack. We'll get him next time ;)

Cadence climbs on top of the table and stabs the necromancer that has brought misery and winter to her small town. "For Heldren!"

cold iron guisarme+flag+higher ground: 1d20 + 4 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (14) + 4 + 1 + 1 = 20
Damage: 2d4 + 5 ⇒ (4, 3) + 5 = 12

Mr. Whiskers moves into the space where Cadence was and shoots his blob of acid at Rohkar.

Acid Splash, RTA, flag, melee: 1d20 + 3 + 1 - 4 ⇒ (7) + 3 + 1 - 4 = 7
Acid Splash damage w/flask: 1d3 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2

Once again, I expect that I miss!

Cadence stabs him deeply in the chest and he collapses on the ground.

stabilize: 1d20 - 3 ⇒ (4) - 3 = 1

On his body the party finds:
scroll of animate dead (10 HD), greenblood oil (1), oil of taggit (2); Other Gear mwk studded leather, dagger, light crossbow with 10 bolts, mwk short sword, a white, furry cloak of the yeti, mwk thieves’ tools, ring of keys, stolen spellbook (contains alarm, chill touch, expeditious retreat, feather fall, identify, locate object, and ray of enfeeblement), wooden holy symbol, 15 gp

knowledge religion Cadence: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (15) + 2 = 17

Cadence identifies the holyunholy symbol as that of Norgorber. God of secrets and murder.

"This guy I don't need to save," Cadence says, looking with distaste at the spellbook and the unholy symbol. "Can anyone give me any good reason to save this bastard?"

Ooh, Cloak of the Yeti looks neat.

"This would be useful both for keeping someone warm and for putting fear into one's enemies. Which of you fine comrades would like to wear it?"

Mr. Whiskers asks "What god did he worship? I doubt it would make a difference, but I am curious."

Looking at the cloak, Mr. Whiskers laughs and says "Too big for me. I think you could fit a small family in it!"

"Norgorber. God of sociopaths, murderers, honorless thieves and back-stabbing jerks." She picks up the unholy symbol and tosses it into the fire, after showing it to the others so that they can recognize the symbol in the future. "Good riddance."

Please assume that Cadence would always share the results of her knowledge rolls.

The keys open the door to the room beyond.A half-dozen boxes and barrels take up the majority of this underground cellar. A rough blanket lies spread on the floor in the southeast corner next to a bowl of half-eaten food. A battered woman with wavy brown hair and eyes and in a torn green dress stands straight and proud, despite her injuries. ”What have you come to do, this time?”

Cadence recognizes the woman as Lady Argentea.

"I see no reason to preserve his life. I would like to peruse the spellbook and see if there is anything of interest to me in it."

--- After the door is opened ---

”What have you come to do, this time?”

"Rescue you, my lady." Mr. Whiskers says with a wide smile.

"I am known as Mr. Whiskers." he says with a bow.

Crummock looks suitably aggrieved.

"Crivens! We be here to save you from the ysbeilwyr that kidnapped ye! We ain't more o' the bastards!"

”Praise be in Iomedae’s name, I’ve finally been rescued from this hellhole. Thank you so much!" Her face lights up when she hears the word rescue. "Is there anything I can do to repay you?"

"Sorry,"she apologizes to Crummock. "I mistook you as one of them...and they haven't been treating me very well."

"And I am Cadence, my lady. Can we provide healing? Real food?"

I wish I could do more to heal the wounds they've left deep inside.

She holds out a hand to the woman. "You shall suffer no harm in our charge, I swear it."

"This would be useful both for keeping someone warm and for putting fear into one's enemies. Which of you fine comrades would like to wear it?"

who has the highest intimidate that we want to boost?

'with Mister Whiskers putting him out of commission that went quick, If I had been quicker he would have been dead before Cadence got to him, but she did her part, as we all did. Einar pondered the necromancers death as he released the rage. Fatigue setting in, he watched the door as Cadence rifled through the mans possessions. Shaking his head as she lifted the cloak, "I have confiscated zee bear fur i lawr y grisiau, er down zee stairs, somevone else may have zat."

Norgorber, what a poor choice.' Recovering his strength Einar watches as his companions open the door. 'Anything I can do to repay you, that's the question I was waiting to hear.' Einar quickly wipes the blood off of his hands and chin, waiting to hear what is offered.

Now if you want to search, you can. Its about 3 pm in the day, considering what time you came here..you might reconsider if you want to get out of this place now...not everyone can see in the dark.

"Oh thank you so much. I heard Rokhar gloating that there would be a full blown invasion coming soon...and those soft people in Heldren would pay. He was plotting with an Izoze...and some Teb Knotten, and he wanted to send me to them..all the way to the portal. I don't know what it'd involve, but nothing good..."She says to Cadence.

"Well...all my belongings were robbed, but I have a spare stash at Heldren. If you'll bring me back, I'll give you all of it."

"If it's too much of a bother, I'll just help myself to one of those wool blankets and get myself back to Heldren, you've done enough already." She tells the party.

All of us can see in the dark. Not the lady, but all of us.

Cadence wraps the blanket around the woman, tucking it into rough dress. "These are dangerous woods. May we escort you home?"

'We still need to find out about the cook.' Einar, raises a hand, lifting one finger. "A gvick question, zare is a voman, zee cook, she is still alive, she claims to not be a part of zis grŵp, She is half orc, did you have unrhyw ryngweithio, any interaction vit her, vee are trying to determine ei euogrwydd, er her culpability."

"Sure, I'd be glad for your assistance. You are most kind." She compliments Cadence.

Leaving the place now? You haven't explored all of it...

"There are supposed to be some horses in the stable, although I haven't looked. Do you know how to ride?"

No, I expect we need to take care of the cellar and do a proper job of looting yet.

"Oh, the half orc? She just delivered food up here, and to me. Never spoke much." She answers Einar. "Yes, I know how to ride. I ride very well." She proclaims proudly."I would have ridden off myself if you didn't offer to escort me back to Heldren."

"Do you know anything about this Izoze, Teb or the portal? Any idea why they chose to take you?"

'that sounds fairly innocent to me.' nodding his head at the answer he proves information. ”Zare are three horses in zee barn, Ten-Penny dweud wrthyf.” Escorting the lady back downstairs Einar still drawn to the cellar entrance recommends, ”Before ve leave ve should check zee basement, zare may be invormation or something else zare.” Going to the basement hatch he opens the door and peers inside.

He will take 20 (24) on the lock and look inside.

"I think Teb's the leader, Izoze is just a high ranking officer. And the portal that caused the winter snows is somewhere in Borderwood, down the trail from the lodge. They said more reinforcements were arriving through the portal.” She shrugs. ”Of what sort, I don’t know. Probably nothing you’d want to run into. I think they kidnapped me so they could deter the Taldan army from entering borderwood and interfering with their plans.

In basement

Dozens of small boxes, bottles, and papers fill this musty storeroom. A small iron cage sits on the top shelf, emanating a flickering light like that of a candle. From the case a tiny voice shouts "Please, let me out, I beg of you!" In the cage Einar finds the same type of sprite that had ambushed the party earlier.

Einar prys open a loose tile on the floor and finds three scrolls of lesser animate dead (2 HD) as well as 2 more doses of greenblood oil and a small lockbox containing 25 pp, 150 gp, 180 sp, and a blue quartz “ice diamond” from Irrisen worth 100 gp. There are also stockpiled three oils of magic weapon and 10 flasks of alchemist’s fire and a bottle of smelling salts.

Wow. I am awed at your encyclopedic knowledge. The world has changed alot since the last time I have walked upon it...I've been sleeping for a thousand years it seems..

Oracle of some kind, I take it?

for your approval this is RH's Aasimar slayer, Melee focused but able to deal with traps in a pinch.

I believe he is ready to go, unfortunately he will have to take off his armor to have a shot at traps. Hopefully we can find a chain shirt fairly quickly.

Any feedback before we get started would be wonderful.

Just for fun, this is RH's bloodrager tiefling, the ying to Seamus's yang. He is straight melee, but was a lot of fun to put together.

Take a look at him if you would like to, any feedback is appreciated.

@GM Mort: Actually, it is more that I scour every book as it comes out for 'useful' stuff ;-)

Here is my character.

Not *quite* as optimised as I could have made him, but still reasonably solid :-)

(I do have an alternate Oracle build if that would be preferred.)

I also thought that it might be amusing to have a 'cat person' to go along with our 'rat person' ;-)

Wait. We have a sorc and an arcanist?

Do I need to rethink skald?

Hmm

No, I need to rethink Arcanist. It would be a very bad idea to have a Sorc and an Arcanist in the same group with only four people.

*Smacks Luke with a big stick*

Now - I don't really care for blasters very much. Mainly because blasting either works too well, leaving the party nothing to do, or don't work at all(when resistances and immunities come in).

Adding crossblooded makes the spells known even lesser.

Also, I shouldn't be bothered over party composition, but if you as a party choose to play through the entire AP with minimal condition removal, that's really up to you...

I was counting on you guys to cooperate, and suceed as a team, not 101 ways to solo blast everything.

Note what I said about varying levels of power within the group. Is that what you really want?

I'm quite disappointed, really.

So looking at it, I can go Warpriest (most likely Desna) to give us a little more battle prowess and condition removal. They wouldn't take the song every round, but would accept it often.

That character wouldn't have nearly as good knowledge skills, but with a Skald in the party we may be able to get by.

I'm glad that I hadn't posted 10 times yet with Mr. Whiskers.

Assuming HMM goes with the Skald, do people think the Warpriest will work alright?

I suggest all of you wait for Luke to chime in. I can start on Saturday morning doesn't mean that I need to. I can wait as long as you like till all of you get everything hashed out.

With anything else, communication is the key.

So looking at it, I can go Warpriest (most likely Desna) to give us a little more battle prowess and condition removal. They wouldn't take the song every round, but would accept it often.

That character wouldn't have nearly as good knowledge skills, but with a Skald in the party we may be able to get by.

I'm glad that I hadn't posted 10 times yet with Mr. Whiskers.

Assuming HMM goes with the Skald, do people think the Warpriest will work alright?

I'm ok if you want to go warpriest. Or we can see about the Oracle that Luke_Parry spoke of. Since you called 'dibs' on the arcane character I think we should wait and have more of a discussion before you just totally change.

However I would like to see a divine caster eventually, either the oracle or the warpriest.

Edit: Mort ninja'd my post ;)

Alright, waiting for Luke before changing anything.

Well, at the complete and utter opposite end of the power spectrum, there is always N.P.C ;-)

Please, don't change your characters.

Note: I will be interstate house-hunting for the next 48 hours, or so.

When I am back, I will present my 'oracle alternate' (who will melee at low levels, blast at mid levels, and be about buffing his animal companion at high levels).

Okie np, we'll wait, then.

Good luck house hunting!

Anyway I also have quite a number of things to do this weekend, like help my aunt get a new phone, class, and meeting with a friend re: bridesmaid stuff.

Ok, we've waited too long, the more I looked at Seamus the more he bored me. So I am tweaking Einar and going to play him, he should be as good with traps as Seamus, but will need to take the armor off as well.

It will change his gear a little, I don't know if I will story him all the way to Taldor or just that he got thrown out of his home.

I like to use Google translate to play with languages,(sorry if this is a spoiler) but I assume we will start speaking in Taldane and then be speaking in Hallit or Skald. Do we want to try and use other languages with spoilers or will we just identify what language we are speaking in?

Ok, the Tiefling is done, I will post his appearance and personality when I wake up.

In the PbPs I've been involved in, we have used a different language and google translate. I am fine with doing it either way.

I will apologise in advance if my NPCs in Heldren seem a little flat, since I was not given much characterization to begin with (the AP just states what the NPCs do). I am not good at improvisation so I can't really create something out of nothing. Also, I can't do accents, I've spoken to Robert and Luke, trying to learn how to do accents, and I still can't do it =(

I don't know how accents sound like so I...don't know where to start on typing them in.

Mort, if you're having trouble finding voices for the NPCs, maybe we should start with something shorter. Just about every AP provides only the sketchiest of NPCs. They want GMs to feel free to create their own personae, but it can be hard with no guidance.

Before we leap into a big AP, could we as a group play together a scenario or short module? It might allow us to create group chemistry and get to know each other and our characters, and then we could come into Heldren as an established group. I have lots of modules and all the scenarios (cause I'm a venture agent!) to lend.

But I'd like us to get a little group chemistry together before we go into Heldren.

Hmm

Eh this isn't a heavy intrigue module, you won't get much interaction with the NPCs, to be honest. It's like crypt of everflame, Kassen start, then you're gone.

The funnest NPCs were those in Carrion Hill. My oh my, I had a field day.

I've also found some accent translators, but please tell me if I'm laying it on too thick.

I could always run you guys through master of fallen fortress on short notice. If we do crypt of everflame, it'd delay the start.

edit: mort ninja'd my post but it still applies so I left it.

We could develop a back story here, or we could meet the night before in the "tavern."

In my mind Mort did a good job with past NPC's Looking at you 'Carrion Hill' and 'Black waters'. But we could interact with one or two of the NPC's before the adventure starts.

I'm not opposed to doing a one off, but I don't want to be higher levels when we start because then we make Mort adjust the AP.

but your right a little chemistry wouldn't hurt.

Edit: Scottish translator, lets all play dwarfs!

One to four NPCs are fine. But when you're talking about an entire town full, from the little kid to the greengrocer, to the mayor, of like 15 NPCs, I'm like uuhhh oh.

Thank god this ain't Curse of Crimson throne.

hey 'Hmm' you mentioned earlier about linking back stories, are you still thinking about doing that?

Einar is from the Realm of the Mammoth Lords. Having been banished he would have wandered toward Taldor because they are more excepting of Tieflings. That's the only reason I have for being here.

Everyone, any other ideas? Long term goal; recover his lost lands and punish the Earl who banished him. Short term goal; survive and raise money and associates to eventually retake land, he plans to hire mercenaries.

I've changed his alignment to Neutral, He is willing to help others gain their goals realizing that he needs others to accomplish his. However it wouldn't be that hard for him to be neutral evil, in the sense that he is willing to do what has to be done. Don't let this worry anyone, he will not threaten the party or the parties goals. But he would be willing to make the 'hard' call. for a "Moral" reference, I would consider killing a wounded/captured enemy evil.

When I was working on him I was reading a lot of 'Joe Abercrombie' and he is based on some of the ideals of the 'north men.' So he can be very grey, but will not intentionally offend a good character.

I've fleshed out Heldren. It's mostly just for fluff, you're probably not going to spend much time there. Can I assume the party is going to CDG everything they knock out or do you want me to roll stabilization checks for NPCs?

I would assume it's a case by case basis, I would think we would want to potentially ask some questions.

Mr. Whiskers is from the Storval Plateau...well, technically just under the plateau. He had contact with the Shoanti in the area.

I was originally going to have him travel as part of a Shoanti trading party, then caravan. Depending on your path, it wouldn't be that strange for us to have met along the way. We are both coming from nearly the other side of the continent.

Mr. Whiskers is very decidedly good. Roll those stabilization checks!

Taldor has a lot of old records. I imagine he intended to travel through Heldren on his way to someplace else. He may have intended to go to Qadira. Ratfolk like the desert!

Mr. Whiskers is from the Storval Plateau...well, technically just under the plateau. He had contact with the Shoanti in the area.

I was originally going to have him travel as part of a Shoanti trading party, then caravan. Depending on your path, it wouldn't be that strange for us to have met along the way. We are both coming from nearly the other side of the continent.

Einar would have happily been a caravan guard, where would we have met up at? Varisia? Einar could have fled to the Storval Plateau, and hired on their, where would the caravan have been going to?

I'm going to assume that on his way to the Storval Plateau and as a caravan guard he experienced a lot of prejudice for the first time, having only been around his parents growing up. So he would have wanted to go someplace (like Taldan) where a tiefling (especially demon spawn instead of devil spawn) might be accepted.

Edit: It looks like Heldren could be on the road between Oppara and Katheer.

Heldren is known for its pine wood(module given), or I can add in a small trade fair being held in town selling shawls, shiny beads and painted wooden ornaments in town if you're looking for a reason to be there for trade.

My understanding is that there are not many caravans across the Storval Plateau. It is more likely we met in a city such as Kaer Maga or Korvosa. I know that there are Shoanti near Korvosa (on the coast), but Kaer Maga looks like it would also have Shoanti in the area.

Bastards of Golarian has a map showing areas where there are concentrations of Tieflings, but it doesn't differentiate between demon and devil kin. Lots of them around the Worldwound, through Chelliax, and in Druma. There are smaller areas in other parts of the world.

I suspect that you would hit prejudice against Tieflings as soon as you left your local area. They are viewed as tainted throughout the Inner Sea region.

Or you can suggest what trade goods you'd want, I'll see if it fits Heldren.

I suspect that you would hit prejudice against Tieflings as soon as you left your local area. They are viewed as tainted throughout the Inner Sea region.

I have Einar being from the "Realm of the Mammoth Lords" his mother was a slave and father was a 'carl' of the earl/chieftain. Einar is a descendant of a Cambion which are only male, so it showed in his mother as a sorcerers with the demon bloodline. Since the RotML is beside the World Wound I will assume that Einar was banished from a tribe in eastern RotML, and went to Kaer Maga. There are Shaonti on the plain below Kaer Maga could he have met Mr. Whiskers there?

Also it will help that Mr. Whiskers speaks Hallit since it is Einar's native tongue, since Einar has linguistics it will also be helpful to have a friend to teach him other languages. He would like to start with skald, since the northern sea men are legendary mercenaries ;)

wow, I'm trying to make Einar's back story fit in the Kellid culture. I should have stuck with Ulfen.

Would I be better off to keep him Kellid and be from a non existenttribe who aren't nomadic or make him from a Ulfen tribe which has a nonexistent 'grueling coming-of-age rituals' suspiciously like the 'Ice Chasm tribe'. Or just change the feat back to "power attack"

Whats the difference between Kellid and Ulfen?

*scratches head, puzzled*

Humans...pink skins and all. And all their weird names too...

Oh and I could definitely do a quick run of master of the fallen fortress before we get to Heldren(but you don't get to keep the loot for balance purposes). I'm happy to start running it tomorrow morning ^^

Also, with regard to backstory, I can't really advise, but extra hp at the first level, while nice...tends to wear off. If its so much problem fitting stuff in, take a generic feat? PA - at level one your attack bonuses aren't quite there yet, so whether you want to take it then or not is up to you? But I'd say you want it by 3, latest.

Whats the difference between Kellid and Ulfen?

*scratches head, puzzled*

Humans...pink skins and all. And all their weird names too...

the Kellid scratches his head as the kitty cat asks her question: "Bwa ha ha, What is differrrrence between Kellid and Ulfen you are askink? It is beink obvious! The differrrrence is beink in the accent, comrrrrade!"

The Ulfen shakes his head in disbelief, looking up at the austere carnivore. "Unfortunately, liebchen zee verdammte Kellid is correct, zee only difference is in za pronunciation of zee Vords, ya."

One speaks with rrrrs, one speaks with zzzz.

They all have 2 arms, 2 legs and soft skins, but think they are different. Humans are weird.

Kellids are russians, Ulfens are french?

What no loot, what are murder-hobo's supposed to do if not get loot? Well that and try to take over the world.

One of the items on the master of fallen fortress chronicle sheet is like 1000 gp. That's going to put you guys above wbl. Nope!

I guess we could do consumables and mundane items only...

One of the items on the master of fallen fortress chronicle sheet is like 1000 gp. That's going to put you guys above wbl. Nope!

I guess we could do consumables and mundane items only...

you could start us at 50 gp worth of gear for fallen fortress, then let us acquire consumables and mundane items.

Or it could be like everything brought outside the dungeon crumbles into dust..hrmmm =)

Kellids are russians, Ulfens are french?

oops, just saw this last part

I was going for Ulfen as German. Usually Ulfens are compared to Vikings but Norwegian is really hard to do. With German you turn the "th" sound into a "Z" sound and the "W" sound into a "V" sound and throw in a coupled of German words or phrases and there you go.

The frustration is trying to do things phonetically. In German yes is "Ja" but the J is almost silent so it sounds like "ya"

Since both German and French change the "Th" sound into a "Z" sound you can see the similarities. I've never tried French, phonetically it would be a nightmare. since yes is spelled "OUI" and its pronounced "we" or something very similar too it that I haven't learned to say.

Comrade can be read to have communist connotations, and we all know where communism came from...

oops, I just realized I forgot my url tag for "German words" for google translate, it's fixed.

And again, for those of us who watched too much American television in the 70's and 80's anyone with a Russian accent called other people 'comrade.'

It's kind of fun for a character to call the other members of the party 'comrade' 'cause, well, they sort of are.

Here is the crunch for my alternate build.

So I assume that Crummock isn't going to be helping with the disabling of devices ;-)

Welcome aboard Crummock, I got bored with Sariel and went with Einer!

Heh. Well, he *can* provide Guidance ;-)

Luke, I'm fine with your oracle. Just link me funeral weapon, or post what it does. Also oracles get cure light wounds or inflict light wounds for free on spells known, feel free to drop em into your sheet.

I'll start with MOFF(generally lootless run), befire starting on ROW as a warm up, as per Hmm's request.