Ridley Zane |
Ridley pulls out his crossbow and shoots at blue.
Range attack: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (6) + 3 = 9
Angela Isafira |
Angela nervously glances at the orc above her ? The orc hasn't moved and shouts after the rest of the group. "Uhhhh somebody want to help deal with this one? I don't think me and Ridley can handle him alone." She then tries to set her determination and prepares her spear to slice at the orc if he climbs any further.
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I completely misread this map; I thought we had the high ground, and the needing a climb to get down was confusing me, but that makes a lot more sense. Also if Mr. Blue hasn't moved like the descriptive text earlier suggests then I might need to do something completely different.
Readied attack: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 2 = 181d6 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 1 = 7
Possible AoO: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 2 = 91d6 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5
Volyana |
Volyana hurries beside Angela and nimbly hops up the cliffside. "No worries, Angela." Her whip spins out as she awaits the orcs approach.
Climb, DC 10: 1d20 + 3 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 3 + 2 = 22
Ridley Zane |
Ridley, who just moments ago had his teeth clenched in anticipation and his hand on his dagger, all of a sudden relaxes, and disappointment flits across his face.
Bah! We totally could have taken him! I guess I'll stick to bombs if we have Volyana around...
Ree Soiel |
yay lull at work
Ree is going to take a five foot step and press herself against the 10ft high rocky wall to use it for cover against the enemy archers until they get closer.
So five foot step and then ready an action to stab an enemy if any get close enough to her.
GM kuey |
Ah! Sorry, I keep doing this thing where I forget to update the map. :P Angela, your action is fine. As soon as he reaches the ground, your ready attack will go off.
Also, I forgot to mention that the cliffs are 10ft high, and DC10 to climb or descend.
Ridley fires at the descending orc but his aim is off, and the bolt strikes the rocks to its right instead. Angela sets her longspear ready to strike the orc as soon as it reaches the ground. Volyana instead climbs up the cliff, passing the orc, reading the top of the cliff right above the orc. (Can't really reflect this on the map, but imagine the orc is near the start of his climb down, and Volyana is above him. Volyana, can you roll an AoO vs blue? He's on the cliff and will have to continue descending on his turn.)
Ree, already taken an arrow, presses herself flat against the cliff surface to prevent any more shots from the archer.
Just then, two more orcs appear from caves in the mountains from the east. (purple and pink)
The breastplated (red) orc presses on forward, then starts chanting a spell, calling upon his god's doom upon all the party!
Cast doom: will DC12 or -1 attack, -1 save vs fear
The archer, denied his original target, turns his bow to fire at Volyana who has just ascended the cliff, but she ducks and easily avoid the arrow.
human longbow vs Volyana: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 1: Status: Nil
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Ridley (will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana (AoO vs blue; will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
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Round 2: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Angela (ready, will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
red orc
green human
Salarian (will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Xantanax (will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
blue orc
purple orc
pink orc
Xantanax |
Great, will saves, bane of my existence! Well, saves in general. I failed every one of them yesterday as a GM and a player. Only lost 15 CON in one combat, no big deal.
Will Save: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (8) + 3 = 11
Xantanax will then double move again trying to get in melee combat with the red orc.
Volyana |
Volyana swings her whip down on the climbing orc's skull, then easily shrugs off the other orc's curse.
Nine-section Whip: 1d20 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 6 + 1 = 19
Damage: 1d8 + 3 ⇒ (4) + 3 = 7
Will Save, DC 12: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (9) + 5 = 14
I have one AoO remaining this round.
GM kuey |
Both Salarian and Xantanax races up towards the breastplated orc.
The (blue) disregards Volyana looming overhead and continues descending. This gives her the opening she needs. She slams down on his head and he falls unconscious, sliding down the cliff face to fall prone at Angela's feet.
The two orcs on the eastern side races towards the cliff face and starst climbing. One is strong and dextrous, and reaches the bottom easily. The other slips and falls tumbling down, falling flat at the base and badly injuring himself.
purple orc climb: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (19) + 2 = 21
pink orc climb: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8 dmg: 1d6 ⇒ 6
Just then, one of the barrels on the caravans nearest to Ree suddenly floats up!
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 2: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana
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Round 3: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Angela (ready, will DC12 or doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
red orc
green human
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
blue orc
purple orc
pink orc (6)
barrel (?)
Angela Isafira |
Angela winces as the orc in the red breastplate gets a spell off. She starts to shout out an order but seems to lose steam part way through. "Someone get on that caster! He's a problem... but I don't think we can handle him, so, uh, just stay alive..."
Deciding she's completely useless in combat she slinks back from the cliffs so she can see the enemy, drops her spear and draws out her loaded crossbow. She tries to calm her shaking hands enough to take a clear shot at the orc in the breastplate.
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Will save DC 12: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 2 = 9
Five foot step, free drop weapon, move to draw crossbow and standard to fire on red. I hope she can see him from here.
Crossbow, doom: 1d20 + 3 - 1 ⇒ (3) + 3 - 1 = 51d6 ⇒ 4
Ridley Zane |
Hey! You! Stop casting spells! Those are our supplies!
Ridley will shout at the orc caster, and while he does so pull out a bomb and throw it in his general direction.
Range Touch Attack, 1 range increment: 1d20 + 4 - 2 ⇒ (16) + 4 - 2 = 18
Damage: 1d6 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8
GM kuey |
Angela, Ridley, with the cliff 10ft high, and with you 10ft and 5ft respectively from the bottom of the cliff, you definitely cannot see red or, i.e. it has total cover. I'll allow you to re-post your actions since they're not valid.
Ridley Zane |
Ridley will start scurrying around the bend to get an angle on somebody to throw a bomb at.
Volyana |
Volyana twirls into the breastplated orc, but her whip glances off their armor.
Move 25'
Enter Crane Style
Attack defensively, AC is now 19
Nine-section whip: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
Ree Soiel |
Will save: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (10) - 1 = 9
Ree sees the floating barrel but doesn't really do much with magic so instead she sees the (purple and pink) orcs nearby and goes for them!
Attack vs purple: 1d20 + 8 - 1 ⇒ (17) + 8 - 1 = 24
Damage!: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8
Ree will totally take the attack of opportunity to stab the pink one if he tries to stand up just fyi
Angela Isafira |
OK I need to rethink what I'm doing if the walls are going to be an issue...
Angela puts her spear away and starts to climb up the slopes after Volyana.
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Climb, ACP: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (16) - 1 = 15
GM kuey |
Ridley races up the slope, looking for a suitable target, reaching the "floating" barrel. Angela takes the more direct route, nimbly climbing to the top of the cliff.
Volyana moves up to the spellcasting orc, swinging her nine-section whip at him, but he turns in time and deflects the blow off his armor.
Ree disregards the barrel and runs up in front of the orcs who have just landed from the cliff. She stabs her rapier through the one who landed on his feet before he even manages to turn around, and it collapses without a sound. Ree, go ahead roll for your AoO against pink as it is going to stand up on its turn.
The archer looks around for a good target. He moves forward, draws his bow and fires straight down at Xantanax. The arrow, however, bounces harmlessly off his armor.
longbow vs Xantanax, PBS: 1d20 + 4 + 1 ⇒ (7) + 4 + 1 = 12
The breastplated orc glares at Volyana but after taking a quick glance at the battlefield, decides not to target her yet. Instead, he steps away from her, raises his hand and calls for divine power to cloud the mind of Xantanax.
Cast murderous command. Xantanax, will save vs DC12 or attack nearest ally on your turn.
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 2: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana
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Round 3: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear, AoO vs pink)
Angela (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
red orc
green human
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear, will save DC12 or murderous command)
pink orc (6)
barrel (?)
Angela Isafira |
Angela clears the top of the cliffs and takes a second to get her bearings. As she does so the obvious cleric in the breastplate steps back and starts casting a spell. She intently watches him casting, curious if the spell casting of or so are any different from the divine spells in Absalom.
The movements are definitely different and the incantation is unusually into are, but she is 87.9% sure that it's a murderous command spell. "Everyone, be careful, Xantanax has probably been targeted by a murderous command spell. He'll probably target us but he doesn't mean it, though given how doomed we are, I wouldn't blame him for switching sides..."
She then takes a quick second to analyze the battle field and, realizing the more lightly armored Salarian is at risk, she stares directly at Xantanax. "Oi, you big lug, I bet you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn door with your chakram much less a tiny halfling!"
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Spellcraft w/free inspiration: 1d20 + 7 + 1d6 ⇒ (8) + 7 + (2) = 17
Unless he has an unusual feat, that should be a success.
Xantanax |
I don't think Power Attack, Improved Initiative, and Point-Blank Shot are going to negate magical abilities. I also hope I don't hit you with the chakram! In order to speed up the encounter I will take my action based on that action of Angela's.
Xantanax blinks as a veil of command takes root in his mind causing him to shift loyalties involuntarily. He sees Angela who is obviously an enemy antagonizing him and threatening his ally, the red orc. He moves forward to get within throwing range with his chakram and hurls it at Angela with great force!
Chakram: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (19) + 1 = 20
He reaches behind him to draw his greatsword as he continues moving towards Angela, his murderous intent quite obvious.
"I see you, woman. Prepare to die!"
GM kuey |
I had included a link to the spell. Those who fail the save who attack your nearest ally which would have been Salarian in this case, but I like what has taken place above so I'll leave it. But looks like Xantanax still hit though. :P Anyway, it only last for one round.
Ree Soiel |
AoO: 1d20 + 8 - 1 ⇒ (18) + 8 - 1 = 25 vs prone
Confirm?: 1d20 + 8 - 1 ⇒ (1) + 8 - 1 = 8
Damage: 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (6) + 4 = 10
Ree sighs as she hears what's going on with Xantanax and mutters to herself as her gaze goes skyward"Callistria please don't force me to go stab my own team-mate? ...at least not until we've had a few drinks in us this time?"
GM kuey |
Ok, as mentioned, by right, Xantanax would have attacked the nearest ally with his melee weapon, i.e. Salarian, but I like how Angela and Xantanax role-played that so I'll let it slide.
The divine force of the orc's god floods into Xantanax's mind, blinding him to view his allies as his enemies. With Angela's goading, Xantanax rushes towards her and throws his chakram at great accuracy, slicing deep into her side. As soon as the weapon leaves his hand, however, the blood rage fades, leaving Xantanax staring blankly at the badly wounded Angela.
Xantanax chakram dmg vs Angela: 1d8 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8
Salarian, fearing for his safety, flees from Xantanax, coming beside the floating barrel.
The (pink) orc lying on the floor is intent on reaching the caravans. He ignores Ree and leaps to his feet, but that was a major mistake. Ree seizes the opportunity of his distraction to stab him through his chest, knocking him unconscious and bleeding out on the ground.
The floating barrel starts drifting in the air, up the slope towards the cave entrance, coming near the breast-plated orc.
At the same time, two more orcs emerge from hiding amongst the rocks to the south, and runs up towards the caravans. They ignore the wounded Angela and like the previous orcs, appears to be intent on climbing down the slope to reach the caravans down below. (orange and yellow orcs have made their entrance)
Please take note that I have adjusted the initiative order of the red orc and green human to go together with the other orcs. Effectively, they have delayed to act together with them. I hope this would help speed up posting rate.
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 3: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana
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Round 4: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear, AoO vs pink)
Angela (8, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
red orc
green human
orange orc
yellow orc
barrel (?)
Salarian |
Seeing that Xantanax seems to be back to his usual self again, and seeing that Angela sacrificed herself to save him, Salarian is starting back up the slope as quickly as he can, hoping to reach Angela in time to heal her...
I'm travelling tomorrow, so not sure if I'll get a post in, but my intention for next round is to move within 30ft of Angela and then channel positive energy to heal her...
Ridley Zane |
Ugh! These things are like insects crawling out of the walls!
Ridley turns around and goes the other direction to toss a bomb at the yellow orc.
Range Touch Attack Roll, 1 range increment, Doom: 1d20 + 4 - 2 - 1 ⇒ (20) + 4 - 2 - 1 = 21
Confirm: 1d20 + 4 - 2 - 1 ⇒ (18) + 4 - 2 - 1 = 19
Crit Damage: 2d6 + 10 ⇒ (4, 2) + 10 = 16
And the orange orc takes 6 damage, reflex DC 16 for half.
Volyana |
Volyana steps up to the orc mage and looses a string of attacks with her whip.
5' step
Flurry defensively
Nine-section whip: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (14) + 4 = 18
Damage: 1d8 + 3 ⇒ (6) + 3 = 9
Nine-section whip: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (5) + 4 = 9
Xantanax |
Xantanax blinks as the spell loses it hold on his mind. Shock rolls through him as the sees Angela bleeding with one of this chakrams in her side. His face contorts in rage and he turns his gaze towards the orc caster as his greatsword clears its sheath from behind his shoulder.
"Orc, your doom has arrived! The next time your lips move you had better be praying for your soul."
Xantanax runs forward and swings his sword at the orc!
Greatsword: 1d20 + 5 - 1 ⇒ (13) + 5 - 1 = 172d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 1) + 6 = 12
Angela Isafira |
Angela grunts as the chakram hits her body with a dull thud. Gulping for air slightly, she mumbles to herself, "Well, I guess he can hit a tiny halfling."
She takes a step away from the orc in the yellow and orange. With one had gingerly takes the embedded chakram out and with the other she pulls a small flask out of her jacket. Angela grimaces as her wound starts to gush dark red blood, but quickly downs her flask. With a sigh of relief her wound starts to knit itself together. Moving more freely, Angela takes out her longspear and by the time she done manhandling (halfling-handling) it the wound on her side has completely healed over, only leaving a nasty gash on the side of her jacket and dress shirt. With a sigh she takes a second to finger at the hole, before shaking her head and focusing her attention on menacing the nearby orcs.
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CLW: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9
I almost forgot Angela has a cure light wounds extract prepared. If she could have acted before Xantanax she probably would have downed her shield one. Actions wise, five foot step, standard draw'n'drink, move to draw a weapon.
GM kuey |
Botting Ree
Salarian races back towards Angela, fearing for her life with two hulking orcs next to her. Ridley, having the same worries, tosses a bomb towards the further orc standing by the edge of the cliff. *BABOOM* It smashes with great accuracy into his face. The headless body topples over the edge of the cliff. The orc beside him gets caught in the fiery explosion and is very badly wounded. Angela steps away from the orc nonetheless and gulps down a healing potion, retoring her to full health.
orange reflex: 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (6) + 0 = 6
Volyana and Xantanax close in on the spellcasting orc and with fine coordination between the two, cut him down where he stands. With no target in range, Ree races up the slope, joining Volyana and Xantanx.
GM kuey |
The badly wounded orc resolutely turns to the cliff and starts climbing down. His wounds are too severe however, and he slips, toppling to the bottom. There is an audible crack as he breaks his neck and he lies at the bottom, motionless.
climb: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 = 5
The archer turns his bow to Volyana, the one closest to him. The arrow plunges into her thigh but it does not go in deep.
bow vs Volyana: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (15) + 4 = 19 dmg: 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3
The barrel continues floating towards the cave, just as two more orcs appear to the south from the rocks.
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 4: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana (3)
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Round 5: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear, AoO vs pink)
Angela (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
green human
purple orc
pink orc
barrel (?)
GM Granta |
★★★OVERSEER ANNOUNCEMENT★★★
The clash of weapons and sounds of battle are all that remain after the war drums stop beating. The orcs and giants look around in a moment of panic. Where they once fought with cruel determination, they now fight with worried desperation.
@Table GMs: The Scattered Leaders condition on page 20 is in effect.
Volyana |
Volyana charges into the two newcomers and slams her whip into one of them.
Charge defensively on purple (that sounds weird)
AC is currently 17
Using the Charged Aid token
Nine-section whip: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (17) + 6 = 23
Damage: 3d8 + 3 ⇒ (4, 2, 3) + 3 = 12
Ree Soiel |
Ree is kinda pissed at that archer so she's going to double move to close the distance with him!
GM kuey |
Volyana, I think you're attacking pink?
Xantanax rushes forward towards to the two new orcs, but Volyana reaches them first. She smashes down on the (pink) orc just as a passing Pathfinder, in coordination, stabs him at the same time. The orc roars in pain before falling unconscious. Meanwhile, Ree races up the slope to face the archer.
Suddenly, you notice a stir spreading rapidly through the orc horde as some devastating news spread through them seemingly like wildfire. Soon, it becomes apparent - Mugek, the leader of the orc horde, has fallen to the Pathfinders! But neither the human archer nor the remaining orc appears affected, however. They continue to stare defiantly at you.
green will: 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (18) + 0 = 18
purple will: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (15) - 1 = 14
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 4: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana (3)
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Round 5: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Angela (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
green human
purple orc
barrel (?)
Ridley Zane |
Ridley will resume running around the bend to get to the top and help out.
double move
Angela Isafira |
Deciding the things in the caravan are safe as the two closest to the wagons are gone, Angela drops her pack and sprints straight out to the entrance of the cave hoping to stop the barrel before they lose it completely.
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A late perception check: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (12) + 8 = 20
Dang that's not worth inspiring. If it'd been at least 4 points higher.
GM kuey |
Botting Salarian
Ridley continues running up the slope, while Salarian races towards the last orc. Meanwhile Angela runs past towards the floating barrel, hoping to stop it in time.
Unfortunately, the barrel floats into the caves, which is completely dark, and disappears out of sight.
The remaining (purple) orc looks at Salarian, Xatanax and Volyana, but more intently towards the caravan. Having made up his mind, he races in between Xantanax and Salarian, hoping to dodge their attacks. No such luck, however. Salarian slashes into the orc's stomach with his scimitar, almost completely disemboweling him. The orc collapses unconscious without a sound.
Salarian AoO: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (20) + 1 = 21 dmg: 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2
Salarian crit?: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 1 = 13 dmg: 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5
Xantanax, technically, you would get an AoO but Salarian's attack killed it.
The human drops his longbow and draws his longsword. In one complete motion, he slashes at Ree but his grip is still not good, and the attack goes wild.
longsword: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (4) + 5 = 9
With the approach of most of the party, two more (final) orcs appear from behind the rocks. One in particular is looking quite uncertainly at the party, but is goaded on by the other.
yellow will: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (19) - 1 = 18
blue will: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (4) - 1 = 3
I swear these are the last two! :)
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 5: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana (3)
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Round 6: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Angela (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
green human
yellow orc
blue orc (shaken)
Volyana |
Volyana steps forward, a flurry of whip and fists.
5' step
Flurry defensively, AC is 19
Nine-section whip: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13
Damage: 1d8 + 3 ⇒ (8) + 3 = 11
Nine-section whip: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (10) + 4 = 14
Damage: 1d8 + 3 ⇒ (6) + 3 = 9
GM kuey |
Volyana steps forward and easily smashes in the skull of the (yellow) orc, leaving one shivering orc standing.
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 5: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana (3)
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Round 6: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Angela (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
green human
yellow orc
blue orc (shaken)
Xantanax |
Xantanax charges the orc and attacks it with his greatsword.
Greatsword: 1d20 + 5 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 5 + 2 = 182d6 + 6 ⇒ (4, 3) + 6 = 13
"Typical orcs, they keep shimmying out from behind rocks and out of holes by the horde!"
Ridley Zane |
Ridley will take a crowwbow shot at the or Ree is fighting.
attack, PBS: 1d20 + 3 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 3 + 1 = 10
GM kuey |
The one Ree is engaging is actually a human.
Without breaking a sweat, Xantanax closes in on the remaining orc, and slices it in half. Ridley fires his crossbow at the final enemy, but aims it too low, and the bolt bounced off the cliff-face.
combat map
Bold may act
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Round 5: Status: Nil
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Ridley (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Volyana (3)
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Round 6: Status: Nil
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Ree (5, doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Angela (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
Salarian
Xantanax (doom: -1 attack, -1 save vs fear)
green human
yellow orc
blue orc
Angela Isafira |
Deciding the barrel is a lost cause without a light source or darkvision, Angela hefts her longspear, and plans a charge at the last man standing, hoping to finally finish off the thieves. Skipping over a few of th rocks, she quickly and efficently closes the distance before flourishing her spear at the man in green. She, however, flourishes to broad and her swing goes wide.
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If Angela can't make it to there, then feel free to move her wherever she can make it to.
Attack, longish spear: 1d20 + 2 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 + 2 = 71d6 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3