It'll be awhile (level 9!), but that sounds good. Tarov making individual players super tough with his commands fits really well, overall.
Worst case scenario, he can always just save his until yours runs out. ;)
Yeah, something about a dwarf barking orders to toughen people up that works. Granted, the attack roll bonus off of Heroics won't stack, but that's still a lot of good stuff to throw onto the party members. Not to mention all the goodies that the right equipment and higher level spells will allow Paige to whip out. Everyone's gonna be buffed to the tits with us walking around.
So I just went through and threw together a general plan for Tarov up to level 13, and it looks like he's going to be pretty nasty as we get stronger.
By level 5, he'll be tossing out Aid Another actions left and right, and using them to boost other player's AC, or take attacks for them, or from up to 30 ft. away to help boost things! He'll also be a defensive juggernaut, able to make people regret entering his threatened area with tons of AoOs and really strong maneuvers. And he gets better from there. :D
And secondly, the Order of the Dragon ability Aid Allies increases the bonus I give when I use an Aid Another action. The Inspired Commands ability from Inspiring Commander archetype allows me to add my Int mod (to a max of my Cavalier level) to my Aid Another action. Does this stack (giving me a whopping +7! on Aid Another actions at level 4) or does it only use the higher bonus? I think this one stacks, but I leave it to your judgment.
Here are the abilities with the relevant portions bolded. :)
Rapid Tactician (Ex)
At 1st level, as a move action the inspiring commander can grant any teamwork feat she knows to all allies within 30 feet who can see and hear her. Allies retain the use of this bonus feat for 3 rounds plus 1 round for every two levels the cavalier possesses. Allies do not need to meet the prerequisites of these bonus feats. The cavalier can use this ability once per day at 1st level, plus one additional time per day at 4th level and for every 3 levels thereafter. Furthermore, the inspiring commander adds her Intelligence modifier to initiative, in addition to her Dexterity modifier.
This ability replaces tactician.
Tactical Acumen (Ex)
At 4th level, the combat training that the warder has received hones her reflexes. Through her knowledge of tactics, training manuals, and lessons in the histories of war, her wits aid her when her agility may be impaired by her heavy armor. The warder may add her Intelligence modifier to her Reflex saves and to her initiative in place of her Dexterity modifier (using the higher of the two bonuses).
Aid Allies (Ex): At 2nd level, whenever an order of the dragon cavalier uses the aid another action to assist one of his allies, the ally receives a +3 bonus to his Armor Class, attack roll, saving throw, or skill check. At 8th level, and every six levels thereafter, this bonus increases by an additional +1.
Inspiring Commands (Ex)
An inspiring commander gains the ability to inspire her comrades. This ability is similar in all respects to bardic performance as used by a bard of the same level (including interactions with feats, spells, and prestige classes) except that the performances are extraordinary abilities, not supernatural or spell-like. Further, all effects based on Charisma are instead based on Intelligence. The inspiring commander may inspire courage at 1st level, inspire competence at 3rd level, inspire greatness at 9th level, and inspire heroics at 15th level.
In addition, an inspiring commander can use aid another as a move action. Furthermore, whenever an inspiring commander uses aid another to assist one of her allies, she adds her Intelligence modifier (up to her inspiring commander class levels) as a bonus to all aid another bonuses she gives to that ally. This ability replaces the mount, cavalier's charge, and mighty charge abilities.
Sorry about that GM Rednal. I don't know how I missed that but I did, will try and be more thorough. :/
Being Magus/Alchemist is going to be a bit tough. I am going to Dual Path Archmage and Trickster which will alleviate some of the issues.
With his current build he won't have to invest in actual armor but taking Enduring Armor is a definite as it scales with his Tiers and is Force for benefits against incorporeal and such. Its free to activate and lasts as long as I wish it to, totally a win ability.
Thought about Legendary item but unsure what to snag if I do.
Dual Path gives me access to two different mythic abilities which Fleet Charge and Wild Arcana are awesome for Magus/Alchemist.
Titans bane is looking really good though.
Tier's 1-3
Feats: Dual Path
Feats: ?????
Archmage Arcana: Wild Magic
Trickster Ability: Fleet Charge
Tier 1 ability: Enduring Armor AC +3 (force, stacks with additional tiers.
Tier 1 ability: Titan's Bane
Tier 1 Ability: ????
Still building character to lvl 10 and haven't picked his later feats yet. =/
A great one for anyone that goes Guardian is Ranged Disarm. That power is awesome, coupled with mythic Manyshot and Rapid shot and you are a disarming, arrow firing God. Especially as you can exchange an attack for a disarm roll instead. So if you have four attacks you can disarm upto four people in one round. I have a level 6 character with guardian 1 and they have a +23 Ranged Disarm Check.
Tarov will probably grab a bow at some point, but probably won't ever use it outside of flying targets that don't get within his threatened area. And the only "Combat Maneuvers" he will be using are probably Pushing and Dazing Assault (maybe Stunning on top of that!) but Ranged Disarm did indeed catch my attention.
As I said With manyshot and rapid shot it becomes a beast. No one will hold onto their weapons if you roll mid to high lol. Its fun for a ranger archer type loll. :)
Going to focus on Heirophant with Yukio, although I may dual-path champion for additional combat prowess. Biggest thing will be picking up enduring blessing though, which means permanent heroism, and mythic divine casting which should provide some good utility. Will also have a wide array of arcane spells on my caster list (including contingency which can be cast on others as a mythic spell) between shaman Arcane knowledge, Ancestor and Time mysteries and Unsanctioned Knowledge for Paladin.
Neat. Figured on the Init part (though it's no real loss, as geting my Int mod to my only "bad" saving throw is still awesome) but I'm glad to hear about the second bit.
So my Aid Another is +5 right now (base +2, with +3 from Int), will be +6 at level 2-3, +7 at levels 4-7, and just keep increasing after that. And once I can do that from range, I can hugely boost people's AC or to hit or skill checks or w/e, all for the cost of a move action. How's that for support?! :D
Nice Tarov!
Yeah I am trying to build a well rounded magus / holy bomber lol.
Rapid Shot and Fast Bombs will make Me go Nova eventually.
However Grenadier will allow my to miss some of my allies with the Precise bomb feat thankfully. Have to boost my INt a little more to avoid hurting the extras in the party. =/
@GM Rednal
Should I avoid crafting feats in this AP? Namely the Mythic Crafting Mastery perk?
Just wondering as it would be neat to become a crafter for party items as Crafting Mastery is like all the feats in one. :)
Thanks!
Gotcha and good to know! :)
I am finding that the Magus/Alchemist build will be a lot more taxing then I predict at least Mythic wise. However They didn't really release much for Alchemists in mythic lol... I can drink faster. >.>
However Mythic Improved Feint and Cyclone Master have some interesting possibilities.
I look forward to Mythic Mania! :D I missed out on the Kickstarter though. D:
Well, if I'm reading my abilities correctly, by level 5 I can use Perform: Oratory to make Aid Another attempts to boost crafting checks pretty significantly, which should shorten the amount of time needed to make stuff. :D
Imagine it as me coaching Julian from across the room. "Attaboy, that's th' spirit! Keep at it, lad, yer workin' like the smiths o' Thanehelm!"
Tarov With Fire Resistance 5 and a yelling dwarf smith. We will make a really fun team! Lol
I will look for anything that will aid my craft check but with my high Int it will be around +15->30 on each roll with your help. xD
Gm Rednal That was what I wanted as well. I am trying to build a Gestalt build file for Hero lab but it's not going as planned lol...
There is an add on... Whtusay!? @.o!?
*Off to look for this Shadowchemoshiewoshie person...*
Edit @Gm Rednal
Where do you want us to add Soul Points at? And are we using Hero Points?
I will add Soul Points under Hero Points in Profile with an effective - as it is empty but that way I don't forget. >.O
Oh! Understood. :) Will remove from Profile then, less stuff to worry about~
So no Hero Points then as well. Will also remove~
@Tarov Nevermind at lvl 1 I have +11 Alchemy, if I put SP into the other skills we will be a dynamite crafting team eventually. I will look into a build to involve ways to speed up the crafting process. Spells will be the only issue then, which magus gets quite a few but only u-pto the 6th lvl bracket.
Love your profile btw Damn you spent some time with the URL links added xD!
Been working on my Iobaria Kingbreaker Campaign setting and found some killer Centaur Artwork.
Possible Centaur PC's What now!
Building adventures from nearly nothing is hard. :(
My creative juices are flowing! :D
@GM: Not to rush you, boss man, but Paige went, so it's time for the snake to go. The rest of us are chomping at the bit. :D
@Julian: I can always Aid Another your Spellcraft to overcome the +5 DC penalty for not knowing the spell, too! And since Tarov is going to have tooooons of skill points because he's Int-based too, I can always help out.
And yeah, I do lots of links to my abilities and stuff. Makes it a lot easier for me to find exactly where I pulled stuff from, and once you do it the first time, it's easy. True story, I actually don't have Hero Lab at all. I stole the overall design from something someone posted, and I edit it by hand for each character. Yay for copy+paste!
Tarov
Hehe Nice! :)
Added a list of character progression, where he will add mythic stuff and trying to find the overall flow of the character.
Considered Dragon Disciple as it would be neat but it would be taxing to juggle. Most of the PrC's just don't work for Magus/Alchemist. Which Alchemist has some nice discoveries. Although I was amused with the idea of taking the extra arms, dragon disciple and becoming a six legged dragon... :3
I doubt that it would work that way but it was an interesting thought.
I am the Sleipnir of dragonkind!
Waves of Mutilation Its a 3rd party arcana on pfsrd. Didn't know where the restrictions lay. ;)
Having fun planning out his progression~ Difficult as I am still unused to thinking of two characters at once but it is fun~!
I know how you feel Paige. Rolled six critical failures in a row last night at my home game! We use the Critical fumble table to and I smashed so much of my good stuff it wasn't funny. My Cavalier threw himself out of the saddle, in front of an injured and angry Red Dragon.
Battle Outcome.
New character being rolled. 'Cause it steamrolled me with 225 damage which I promptly rolled a 1 (The Sixth dice roll) on Mass Damage roll and died lol.
Totally missed where Alchemists can't share infusions without that discovery... Crap. xD
Can't wait for lvl 2 already HA!
True Strike is okay, but Enlarge Person is where it's at!
Hehe can do that too. At least per the faq. I don't know if they have reprinted the APG yet or not to clarify some of this but that was what the faq was saying would happen as well lol.
It'll be nice to be able to make cure potions, buffing extracts and such. The only downside is the Extract's slot remains used until it is consumed.
So if I give one to each of you, then I am three slots less. However it isn't too big of a deal because they'll either A) Get Used Or B) Get handed back so I can make new stuff. :3
Wasn't trying to be whiny just learning the intricacies of being an Alchemist. Hehe.
Looking at the lvl 20 discoveries is pretty interesting but its hard to decide between the Fast Healing/True Mutagen or the 1/month Philosopher stone. =/ AS I am still building his 1-20 1-10th tier progression~
My mythic feat choices will be effected a lot by when we actually get the Mythic levels, so I'm going to hold off on that until it happens, I think. :)
hehe true, I am just exploring ahead of time to make sure I don't make a mistake. =/ I have a bad habit of picking a useless thing when I thought it would be nice to have...
Definitely will! :D
Working on understanding the system better myself. Dual path is making an interesting idea with some really good options. :D
True and duel path gives me both Fleet Charge and Wild Arcana. Which is awesome for a magus. :3
Your right though I have to be very careful in my selection process. Enduring armor though looks like a really good first choice. XD
GM Rednal
Are you one of the types that wants consistent rolls to show that we are paying attention or save them for when they are needed?
Like me being in the rear rolling Perception checks? Good? Bad? Neutral? xD
Oh Goody! :D Thanks!
Following your example Tarov, hyper-linking my abilities and it is turning out quite well. Makes it way easier to find things as well. :)
Just realized I can still wear light armor. T.T Too bad I couldn't afford any anyway xD Alchemists and magus's are expensive. :3 Granted I will suffer from arcane spell failure then but *shrugs* it'll be low enough that it won't be too bad. :3 AFAIK...
Added a wishlist to my sheet so i don't forget what I will be aiming for later on. xD
Apologies for so many posts, been doing 14 hours a day of well... Nothing. Weather days have us on standby so we are waiting to work... :( so boring and all I can do is do technical writing all day. So inbetween mindnumbing SOP writing I post on all my games and advance my Pbp's game I run to not go insane from boredom... :P
Sorry, I was in class and just wanted to get my action down so that other people could go.
I'll stick my maneuvers and stuff in a spoiler, but it's going to get LONG, fast.
I don't need to use the Dorn-Dergar as a reach weapon, and haven't been for this fight. I'll specify whether I have it as a reach or regular weapon in the future, for everyone's clarity. :)
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Also, I made an oopsie. I activated Inspring Commands as a move action, but it's actually a standard. It's more important to get Inspire Courage up, I think, so if you want to make it so I didn't use Enduring Crane Strike in round 2, that's okay.
I'm going to add the action it takes to start Inspiring Commands into my little blurb about it on my character sheet, so I don't make this mistake again.
Questions for party.
I understand that intimidate and Diplo doesn't work on people. Thats fine.
What about Bluff Checks? Or shall we dispense with rolling dice against party members?
I never roll against party members. But on that same token, Tarov won't just believe everything he hears.
Sounds good, no rolling against party members then. It wasn't nothing bad, but I was just wondering.
Like Julian's shaking hand when he entered the shrine, its not something he wants to reveal. Just story fluff really from his overprotective nature. ;)
Are we waiting for something?
Busy weekend for me, just finally got a chance to post. Onward!
If anyone had indicated in there posts that they were picking up the items in the temple let me know. ;)
Bad habit ingrained in me, never leave sellable stuff behind. Besides Horgus can carry... Most of it. >:3
I'm pretty sure anything you give to Horgus we'll never see again :p
Heh I am sure Paige will be able to scOre the wrath of god into him. Diplomatically speaking~ But at least he can be useful. As an impromptu pack mule. :)