all weapon orders with special materials should be ordered as master work so we can upgrade them as needed, and the +1 to hit helps.
So yours Ingrid will be 310, your share should be enough (I let you guys figure out what everyone's cut is after the cost of the HQ is figured out)
I put enough in the party treasure pile to get over the magic 750gp for a CLW wand or similar 1 level wand and everyone gets an additional 350gp (over the 40gp earlier). Party treasure is at around 850gp.
Ok you have one week paid up for HQ repair. You have 130gp owed left on labor, etc to finish which will take two additional weeks. (then 200gp more for furniture.) How do you want to pay for that?
So do you want to send out for a wand? That can arrive in a week with any other special purchase out of Magnimar.
The loot spreadsheet has us paying 450gp we owe for the house completely off including ordering the furniture. (The 120 gp advance plus the 330gp remaining)
Ok, excellent!
Magic weapon for the wand? Enlarge, shield?
Magic weapon would be good for increasing the to hit and bypass DR/Magic, enlarge increases damage, and shield help in stopping our injuries.
so you decide or we vote.
Well, the magic weapon wand is about a third the cost of a permanent magic weapon and requires a an std action. The action economy seems inefficient.
I think we are set on healing, so CLW seems unnecessary.
Shield is my vote as it will keep solid defense on the frontline. It won't stack with a shield like Rohara and Kilthan use, but makes Kilthan optimized with the offhand magic shortsword when he has it on him. Justin with a UMB at +10 may be soon be able use it efficiently on himself when he is out of melee (say by level 5).
Shield - Range is Personal, so it would be useless for the front line.
Magic Weapon - Does not stack with +1 for masterwork or other magic weapons. Also, I do not think it works on natural weapons, which would thus require DM approval and also would probably only work on one of Justin's natural attacks at a time. I think Magic Fang or something like that is for natural weapons.
Enlarge Person is a decent one for a wand as it will free up one slot for me and since the spell lasts 1 minute, it will work for the majority of most combats.
CLW is a good wand. Enlarge Person is my second choice.
Aarakees is correct that magic fang would be needed per natural weapon. Magic weapon's +1 wouldn't stack with mw for the "to-hit" part.
Shield would have to be used by the person casting it.
Perhaps a shield of faith wand if thinking on the AC side?
Of course I spell Aarakess wrong, then Paizo goes down for over an hour so I can't edit. Doh!
Can Justin by a 25 charge shield wand for 375gp?
No either a full wand or randomly rolled for charges wand, but you have to commit to buying it since they would have to find it in Magnimar
It might be better, rather than defense, if we got some offense wands:
Bless Weapon for Justin; and
Lead Blades for Kilthan.
Bless Weapon will make all crit threats auto confirm and will cut through DR/Good which we are likely to run into.
Lead Blades gives Kilthan's axe steroids.
@GM Blood - would Lead Blades stack with Enlarge Person?
@ Justin - Shield is not on your spell list, actually I am not sure whether it is on any of our spell lists. Rohara has Shield of Faith and Dryn can make an extract of Shield, but I do not know whether Alchemists can use wands without a UMD roll.
With a UMD of +10, I would be hoping for a Desna's luck from Rohara for first use of the wand to avoid the 5% chance of messing up forever. Then with a +12 for using a known wand, it would be a good thing to do before opening a door. 8+ to use wand is a 65% chance now and would grow by 5% per level.
But Bless Weapon is an excellent idea.
Lead Blades and Enlarge Person seems like a ligit combo so I say yes.
Also, alchemists can use wands from their list, but not scrolls
Lead Blades + Enlarge Person + Dwarven War Axe sounds cool, the biggest problem is that the damage goes off the chart.
1d10 --> 3d6 --> ???(4d6? 5d6?)
The chart just kind of ends, I suppose one could look for a huge monster (giant) that uses a common weapon and see how the damage progression works.
A Storm Giant, size huge, does 4d6 with a greatsword, so I would think that 4d6 would be correct.
Unless I'm reading the table wrong on the equipment page, a large size d10 becomes 2d8 rather than 3d6 (it takes a d12 to get you to 3d6) -- so at +2 sizes, it would be 3d8.
Unless I'm reading the table wrong on the equipment page, a large size d10 becomes 2d8 rather than 3d6 (it takes a d12 to get you to 3d6) -- so at +2 sizes, it would be 3d8.
Kilthan's right, but looking at the table of Lead Blades it went up two size categories.
Yep 1d10->3d8 should be right. That looks very nice with vital strike (6d8)
Justin will order a randomly charged wand of shield hoping if he can be covered somewhat if it runs over half for a while.
With all the healing let's do a random wand of CLW from party funds. We can get an enlarge wand as the next wand when funds are available or if the healing wand is light on charges.
Justin wants to focus on defense after laying on the pavement bleeding on multiple occasions.
A staff would be better and rechargeable, but they cost a lot.
We have a pile of healing already between me, Ingrid, Rohara and Dryn. I think we should hold off on the CLW until we have enough to get a fully charged one. I would hate to only get one with 7 charges and waste a bunch of our limited gold.
Also, if I memorize Enlarge Person, I can cast it twice per day for 3 minute duration because of the Pearl of Power. It is only Shield that is important to increase your AC. Thinking of which, there is a Feat, I think it is Saving Shield, which if Kilthan took would allow him to give you a +2 to AC against 1 attack each round. Not perfect, but a nice bonus.
Unless shield's on Justin's spell list, a wand will require him to use UMD to get the spell -- a wand of a spell with range personal only affects the person using it.
We'd be better off with a wand of Shield of Faith, which provides a deflection bonus and has a range of touch (and is on Rohara's spell list).
OK lots of different suggestions and I am not sure what the end desire is. I don't feel comfortable making the choice for you all.
I am going to need some sort of definitive answer on what will be ordered. So since Justin is organizing the party funds I will leave it up to him on what will be ordered. Justin, make sure to read through everyone's suggestions before responding.
Keep in mind that any used wand could have from 1 to 49 charges and you won't know until it arrives so make sure you have the funds. Not being able to afford it will surely end the merchant's desire to order anything from Magnimar for you.
Just so that everyone knows, I used a big chunk of my cash purchasing several spells - Summon Monster II, Returning Weapon, Icicle Dagger, Web. I already have Summon Monster II and should be Web from Allustan tomorrow. The others will arrive from Magnimar in a week. These cost a total of 325 gold, so I do not have that much to contribute toward the party wands.
I would really pass on the wands. There are other ways to get a better AC from various tactics to using cover. Not to mention, not rushing into battle.
Is a random d49 charge wand of lvl 1 15gp per charge?
Yes, Level 1 wand is 750gp for a 50 charge wand so it will be (charges left * 15gp)
I would really pass on the wands. There are other ways to get a better AC from various tactics to using cover. Not to mention, not rushing into battle.
Agreed - If Rohara can cast Shield of Faith, that gives the +2 AC bonus and lasts 3 minutes - enough for 1 tough battle.
Justin orders a used shield wand. He may need a loan from party funds.
Final wand answer.
For Justin wants to use devices. He is dangerously curious :-)
One he buys the spiked shield, Kilthan will look around for a Composite Longbow (Str Rating +3) (and try to get some trade value for his bow).
Assuming that he finds what he's looking for and gets back half the price of his current longbow, that's a net cost of 381.5 -- which is within the 390 Kilthan has to spend.
Now, he'll start saving up for a few Masterwork Transformations (Axe, Shield, Bow, Shield Spikes...)
Ingrid not about? I was hoping to give our better diplomat a chance before Rohara continued.
With that said... I will be away Aug 4 and 5. I might have some computer access in the evenings, but I do not know as of right now.
you started talking and it would be rude to interupt.
Back now...
OK, so here is what comes
Aarakess - Your Scrolls
Ingrid - Your Whip
Kilthan - You can find a bow in town (FYI, I allow composite bows to be 'tuned up' if you ever get a magic or materwork one)
Wands:
Wand of shield is the only one ordered I think
Charges = 585 gp
Feel free to say no, but could I have made five alchemist's fire in the week? With Crafter's Fortune I'd have a 25 by taking 10 on my Craft Alchemist checks, which times 20 becomes 500sp, doubled to 1000sp from Swift Alchemy (doing it in reverse). It would only cost me 33.33gp instead of 100gp that way since I made them on my own.
Your math confused me to the point of saying yes! :)
Wand of shield is the only one ordered I think
Charges 1d49 = 585 gp
Rohara will loan Justin 235 gp for the wand... :)
Thx I am 170gp short. I have 415gp.
I think I only have 25gp left after the spells. I spent 325 on the spells and I believe we are starting with 350 total right now.
Whip in equipment
and debating on how to describe my "new" look,
as my figure does makes me stand out.
How you will look? You are build like a guard, just put on a heavy leather jacket and you are fine. I am the tall rail thin white haired girl with pointy ears.
Unless anyone has a better idea to get parasite worms out of people, I was planning on buying 3 cure disease scrolls with party funds.
(for Justin and anyone else who wanted to be present...)
When the lizardman asks of his companions if they might help pay for his wand Rohara smiles and readily helps her companion. She gives him the 170 pieces of gold he needs for his purchase. She does seem to make it clear she is giving Justin the money, and not merely a loan. "Desna's luck will provide."
"Thank you for the help with the wand, Rohara. I will use it to keep my need for healing down."
Great call on taking the AoO Aarakess. Your analysis was 100% correct. Especially with the d20 Kilthan and I share.
Is the one in the hallway sleeping now?
3 rounds, unless someone kicks him
If you lot can keep this one pinned, I'll go introduce his throat to Mr. Waraxe in Round 2. The auto-crit of a c-d-g makes x3 weapons rather useful in this case.
Besides, it seems my axe likes him better, anyway.