
Draga, of the mist |

Welcome, everyone! This is the Discussion thread for Second Darkness: Shadow in the Sky.
Here is the team list:
Augrim Whyrwharf, Dwarven Inquisitor
Grimara "Grim" Pondle, Half Orc Rogue
Jawn Stagg, Human Wizard[/smaller][/ooc]
Arianna Rothschild, Human Bard
Zaiel Shandraeli, Half-Elven Cleric
While everyone is tweaking their characters, keep this in mind.
Take max hit points at level 1 for your class, and choose 2 traits.
Second Darkness Traits:
If you want, you can pick up the Second Darkness Companion, but it's not required at all. Let me know if you have any questions.

markofbane |

Thanks Draga! Let the questioning begin... It looks like the Second Darkness traits are designed for 3.5. I am considering Looking for Work and/or Researching the Blot. For Looking for Work, would you let us replace the Spot skill with Perception (I know they aren't quite equal between the two systems, but pretty close). For Researching the Blot, did you have a different bonus effect in mind since identifying magic items is a bit different in Pathfinder?

Draga, of the mist |

Thanks Draga! Let the questioning begin... It looks like the Second Darkness traits are designed for 3.5. I am considering Looking for Work and/or Researching the Blot. For Looking for Work, would you let us replace the Spot skill with Perception (I know they aren't quite equal between the two systems, but pretty close). For Researching the Blot, did you have a different bonus effect in mind since identifying magic items is a bit different in Pathfinder?
Good catch - Spot is now Perception, so the bonus is to Perception - updated the Trait description.
For Researching the Blot, How about a +1 to Spellcraft and Use Magic Device?

Draga, of the mist |

Do you require that we take a campaign trait? When I statted up Grim, I gave her two standard traits (one combat and one social), but I can easily rework that if you'd like her to have a campaign trait.
Nope - totally your call. I just wanted you to have the option.

Jawn Stagg |
Good catch - Spot is now Perception, so the bonus is to Perception - updated the Trait description. For Researching the Blot, How about a +1 to Spellcraft and Use Magic Device?
Those sound great. I think I'll take Looking for Work for Jawn. It fits with his story (drifting from town to town, looking over his shoulder and looking for odd jobs that don't require him to use his magic). Also, looking at all of the traits, it looks like the action starts in or near the Gold Goblin, and this gives him a reason to be there.
In the announcement you had a question mark next to Jawn's race. I think I'll go with the human version I developed, but I may change his stats just a little; bring down his intelligence a bit to increase other stats and make him a little more survivable.

Draga, of the mist |

Are we on the Medium, Slow, or Fast track for experience?
The AP lays out a basic guideline for what level you should be at at certain parts of the story. I'm going to try to pace it in a way that provides the most fun. I don't know if that really answers your question, but if I had to boil it down, I'd say medium.
Some people might want to keep up with XP, because they like gauging how close they are to the next level - other people don't care. I'm probably just going to let you know when you level up (simultaneously). It's one less thing for me to keep track of.
That being said, I won't be tossing "bonus XP" out the window - I will find a way to reward players for quick thinking, creative solutions, or anything else I think is flat-out cool.

Grimara "Grim" Pondle |

Grimara "Grim" Pondle wrote:Do you require that we take a campaign trait? When I statted up Grim, I gave her two standard traits (one combat and one social), but I can easily rework that if you'd like her to have a campaign trait.Nope - totally your call. I just wanted you to have the option.
All right. I'll keep the two that she has then.

markofbane |

How about making scrolls, buying scrolls and scribing scrolls into my spellbook?
For Jawn to scribe a scroll of a 1st level spell he knows, it costs 12gp, 5sp. To buy a scroll of a 1st level spell he doesn't know costs 25gp, plus an additional 10gp to scribe it into his spellbook. Can he have done some of this prior to the start of the adventure with his extra cash?

Draga, of the mist |

How about making scrolls, buying scrolls and scribing scrolls into my spellbook?
Can he have done some of this prior to the start of the adventure with his extra cash?
Yes, that's pretty much like purchasing gear, in my book.
Also, if you purchased ranks in Craft you can choose to discount items as if you had crafted them. Limit this to one standard item (weapon or armor) or ten minor items (potions, scrolls, jewelry, etc.)

Draga, of the mist |

Arianna - I thought you might be interested in this.

Grimara "Grim" Pondle |

For reference, here is a map of Riddleport, and points of interest.
The link just points back to this thread rather than a map.

Draga, of the mist |

Draga, of the mist wrote:For reference, here is a map of Riddleport, and points of interest.The link just points back to this thread rather than a map.
Yeah, I broke it - I'm just going to link a map and description, and pull that post out.

Rhys Grey |

Concerning combat:
Have you given any thought to how you want to handle the combat round? For example, in my current PbP the GM has us roll initiative and then declare our actions/roll for attack, damage, or whatever (all in one post), after which he explains what happens after all parties have posted. I think this is to keep things going, as it were, so that not everyone is waiting for the higher initiative people before they can post (GM waits until all post, then relays what happens).
I was wondering if you were going this way, were going as it's written in the pen & paper rules, or if you're doing something else.
Hope my question makes sense!

markofbane |

Following up on the combat question... I am in a few PbPs, and I have seen the method Rhys mentioned work well. For example, an action might be:
Round 4
Swift action: lay hands on self, healing 2d6 ⇒ (6, 5) = 11
Move: to I9 if the orc at I10 is still standing, or J4 otherwise.
Standard: Swing on whichever orc I end up by.
To Hit 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6
Damage 2d6 + 2 ⇒ (1, 1) + 2 = 4
And sometimes just post a flat "I need to see what x or y does before I can post my actions.

Draga, of the mist |

Yeah, I saw Nazard is doing this in an Arcadia game. I think it looks like a good idea. I'd generally title the spoiler with the round number, just to streamline it.
I don't know what's up with the map. I can see it, through google docs, but maybe I need to post a different link. Try this one.

Nazard |

Yeah, I saw Nazard is doing this in an Arcadia game. I think it looks like a good idea. I'd generally title the spoiler with the round number, just to streamline it.
** spoiler omitted **
I don't know what's up with the map. I can see it, through google docs, but maybe I need to post a different link. Try this one.
No dice
If you like, I've had some success with creating a google site, where you can easily download jpg or png picture files of maps and stuff. Good for combat maps too.

Draga, of the mist |

No dice
If you like, I've had some success with creating a google site, where you can easily download jpg or png picture files of maps and stuff. Good for combat maps too.
Anything that works - how do I set it up? I was hoping google docs would suffice, but I guess it's just not working.

Rhys Grey |

Nazard wrote:Anything that works - how do I set it up? I was hoping google docs would suffice, but I guess it's just not working.No dice
If you like, I've had some success with creating a google site, where you can easily download jpg or png picture files of maps and stuff. Good for combat maps too.
I think DM JZ uses Flickr for his maps, but I've never used it myself.

Nazard |

Nazard wrote:Anything that works - how do I set it up? I was hoping google docs would suffice, but I guess it's just not working.No dice
If you like, I've had some success with creating a google site, where you can easily download jpg or png picture files of maps and stuff. Good for combat maps too.
You need to have a google account. Go here and follow the instructions to set up your own. The whole process is fairly simple to execute. Once it's set up, you'll want to get e-mail addresses from all of us to give us access. I think the sharing controls are under the "More Actions" menu on the top right of the google site.

Nazard |

Excellent - Try it now.
Perfect. Riddleport in all its glory, but can you invite us as collaborators, not just viewers? That way, we can create character profiles in the site and edit them ourselves.

Draga, of the mist |

Draga: are we beginning the PbP now, or are we awaiting something? Shall we roleplay out arriving at the inn, or would you like us to wait for you?
I just want to make sure everyone has access to the maps, first. It can wait, I suppose.
Go ahead and RP what brings you to the Gold Goblin.
The PbP starts here.

Draga, of the mist |

Do you guys have a preferred method of formatting posts?
It would probably be helpful if we can reach a consensus. I'm open to other ways of doing it, but I usually do this:
Thoughts and narration
"General conversation"
Yelling!
Out of character
I also like what Nazard suggested for his game for combat rounds:
Move action: move to D9
Unarmed attack on Pirate captain 1d20 - 2 ⇒ (17) - 2 = 15
Then sum up what happened: Draga runs up and punches Captain Blye square on the nose!
Thoughts?

Rhys Grey |

The only way I've done it (so far):
Narration was usually like this.
"This represents dialogue, as it stands out clearly from the narration."
Italics for thoughts/stream of consciousness . . .
"Yelling!"
"Quieter tones of voice."
Out of character, naturally!
Attack/Damage/Skill Check/Whatever: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (2) + 3 = 5
. . . . for die rolls, of course!

Draga, of the mist |

Got everyone's info - feel free to post in the PbP thread
RP what brings you to the Gold Goblin.