DrGabe's Pathfinder Society Game (Inactive)

Game Master DrGabe

I'm down with anything, though I have another character in the first levels of Thornkeep. I too will be making revisions before 2nd level. Thinking of dumping Beastmaster archetype for something else. I concur with Pai, Dr G, you run a great game.

I agree, another well-run scenario with a good team. And so far, I like the way Slypher plays. Doesn't really matter what we do to me, since I don't know about either one.

I am happy with the flow. Whichever you would have more fun runnig Dr G is good with me.

I like the game and the team too but I probably will not have enough time to begin a new scenario here especially as I plan to dm Shattered Star in addition to my regular PFS game.
So, have a good game all and another time maybe!

I vote for the longer scenario that gets us 3 exp (a level). That will be handy for GenCon13.

Since Jostrum is playing in Thorn Keep, I vote for Shatter Star: Shards of Sin.

And Dr.Gabe does run a good game!

So because Jostrum has another character in a PFS Thornkeep, he wouldn´t get any credit for it, is that right?

I think it is replayable, not positive on that.

I think you can get credit, but it applies to another PC???
Not sure, would have to read through the rules again.

On a side note, Jostrum you are the only one that is playing Thornkeep. Would you still want to play it (or use another PC)?

Yeah, I'm just playing this one for kicks as I've already done it. Sometimes not metagaming is hard.

Slypher you mean rise of the goblin guild we are doing now?

I'm trying to find if Thornkeep, Accursed Halls is treated as a Tier 1-2 module and replayable. I would be willing to to have Jostrum play it.

Edit: Looking through the threads, I found this thread that seems to indicate that it is replayable.

I hate to say, but they are talking about multiple GM credit there. Since i´m still a PFS newbie i have no clue how something like that is handled for players and different player characters. As far as i remember from reading the guidelines around christmas, if you played a module or scenario and got a chronicle for it, you can´t get another.

Thornkeep and Shattered Star (among others) are tircky because they are modules, not scenarios. You 'could' play with your home group using the appropriate level PC's and then apply the credit to a PFS character of the appropriate level.
I still haven't gone through the recently updated rule pack to make sure that something hasn't changed.
Pai, you are right for regular PFS scenarios.

While I agree with you Pai that the OP of that thread was talking about GM credit, down thread they were talking about player/GM credit. Basically, if you can get multiple GM credits, you can get multiple player credits.

The Guide to Organized Play says "There is one exception to these rules: All Tier 1 scenarios and Tier 1–2 sanctioned modules are available for unlimited replay with a 1st-level character for credit. The sanctioned modules can also be played with a 2nd level character once for credit. You may continue to replay the sanctioned modules with 1st-level characters
after playing through them with a 2nd-level character. GMs can receive another Chronicle sheet each time they run one of the Tier 1 scenarios or Tier 1–2 sanctioned modules. No character can ever have two of the same
Chronicle—the Chronicle must be applied to a different character each time."

Well that sounds pretty cool.

And yes, I was talking about Rise of the Goblin Guild. I'm guessing that's not one I can get another credit for.

I just took a look at the Shattered Star Players Guide and Thornkeep description. Both sound good to me.
And probably both offer similar challenges to my character. I will try to make her round so i can contribute a lot, but against undead for example i don´t have a lot to nothing to offer.
I think both adventures need a high degree of cooperation and tactical planning, knowing who can do what and when best for the whole team.

Would you like to start them immediately or perhaps have another quick scenario so we get to level 2 before?

Anyway i´m looking forward to play on here. Now that i own People of the north, there will be some changes to my character hehehe.
Switching out toughnes to tribal scars for sure and then perhaps later grab toughness again if needed. Also the snowball spell is quite a nice damage spell for level 1, but i read somewhere that it might get banned because there are complainers, so i´m reluctant.

I don't have my campaign forms handy... did everyone complete their faction missions (you would have gotten a message in the spoiler tab)? Does anyone need to explore the dungeon before leaving to complete a faction mission?

I'll get sheets out to everyone soon, likely Saturday. Will anyone be Lvl 2 with this 1 xp?

I don't actually get credit for this one, so I'm assuming I don't get a chronicle...?
But yes, I know Pai & I completed our faction mission.

Jostrum and Dorgrin completed their faction mission too. Dorgrin is a brand new character so he won't level up.

Jostrum will be moving up to Lvl 2. I'm going to retrain into a different archetype.

Pai has one more XP to go before level2, this was her second scenario.

Actually i have a question. If we play, we only get those 3xp in the end right? That would mean we would only level up after the scenario right? Not like we get 1xp at a certain point and i could advance to 2. level while playing?

Ok, so I think Sorin got +1xp,+1 prestige for the adventure, and +1 extra prestige for the mission.

That puts him at 2xp.

Shattered Star Shards of Sin rules for PFS say legal level 3-5.

I don´t have a character in that level range.

Osric completed his faction mission.

I don't think any of us are level 3? Osric is 2nd with 4 exp after this mission.

We could do Shattered Star with Pregens. But i don´t know about that.
Or when i read that right, we can use "homeparty" characters and apply the credit to the PFS characters later.

I have a long update coming soon... but yes I didn't realize that SS was lvl 3-5 until later. Thornkeep is lvl 1-2. With 6 players I think that it would be fun to do, and the combats shouldn't bee to challenging. It then dovetails nicely into the next level of the dungeon.
After that you can emerge with all sorts of loot and experience. Its just a thought anyway...

I think both are actually a cool idea. I´m just trying to familiarize myself with the rules of PFS and how things work. After all, scenarios i played are probably the ones i will GM too in the future. I think it´s more fun to play first and then GM it as the other way around.
Thornkeep sounds pretty cool to me.
Modules are at 3xp and 4PP each as far as i know. That means less PP than normal progression, but it says you get more gold and loot. Only thing i wonder about is, since PP also set your fame score, you are always behind with the stuff you are allowed to buy, or is that wrong?
Since Dorgrin announced he´s not sure if he has enough time, maybe it´s only 5 characters.

Also as i get it, Thornkeep is a dungeon with funny monsters and traps. Can anyone handle traps?

Sure, I can walk into them and then let someone heal me up.

Haha as you wish!
Perhaps you should switch your feats to tribal scars and toughness for your plan, giving you +9hp, i´m sure you can use it then.
Also there might be traps that do conditions or summons or who knows what i guess.
But it sounds like fun hehe.

I am going to rebuild Jostrum as either a Urban Ranger or at the least take a trait that gives him Disable Device. So that will be covered.

I am working on Chronicle Sheets now... you get 520gp if you want to start planning your shopping trips!
If you want to make a Dayjob roll, now is your chance!

@ Slypher- you were infected by the slime mold. One day after you leave the sewers, you will start to show signs (and take damage!) of FUNGAL ROT. Its no good I tell you. You will need to find some way to get rid of the disease (you can buy Remove Disease for 150gp)

I guess that's probably my only choice?

Dorgrin will try to gain somme additional money with his crafting skills.

Craft (weapons): 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (12) + 4 = 16

Well Slypher, so here is what is screwy. Lets say you take a total of 6 Ability Damage from the Rot. I note that on your chronicle sheet. The next game starts, and you take a one week passage to somewhere's-ville. You heal Ability damage one point per day. Viola, you are all healed.
Of course, the problem does arrise that if your next GM doesn't give you any time to rest, then you are suffering from the Rot for awhile.

So I guess you could try to cure now. Or take the Damage and since you are playing in the next game with me, you will end up healing most if not all of your ability damage before the adventure truly starts.

Does that sound correct to everyone? Pai, you are our resident internet searcher, what do you think. :)

My 2cp: I've always treated it like the damage was healed in between scenarios. I know that is has been stated somewhere that it is an indeterminate time between. In the realm of Dayjob checks, that represents at least a weeks worth of work don't you think?

Uh i guess DrGabe has to write conditions gained and cleared on the Chronicle Sheet. The potion i surely legal and would never cause problems, but it is expensive. For just waiting a week to pass, i really don´t know how that is handled. Personnaly i would say it´s fair because i think conditions on level 1 characters are quite hard, so if it can go away by itself, it´s ok.
Thing is how others see that and table variation and if it´s "legal".
There is this common sense clause in 4.3, perhaps it could fall under that, but if so DrGabe had to write that on the chronicle i guess too.
Or maybe just write it´s cleared, as we can come to the consensus that the adventure aftermarth with day job rolls etc takes about one week in which we stay at Heidmarch Manor as guests, strolling around in the city before duty wants us elsewhere.

That'd be cool. I'd like to avoid losing money on a not-for-credit scenario if possible, but if not, I'll just take the 150gp hit and move along.

I not even sure that the condition needs to be noted since it might be cured in game. If Slypher can not make the Save for cure in game or at the end, and his ability score fell to the point of almost being zero, then he would have to purchase healing. At that point I think you would have to list it under Conditions Gained and list what he did to clear it under Conditions Cleared. Essentially the condition, Disease, could be cured in game and now all that is left to deal with is the effects, which will heal naturally. So I would suggest having Slypher or Gabe roll a series of Saves to see if he can cure on his own. If he can't than he will have to purchase the Remove Disease, then heal his Ability Scores naturally.

It looks like all he needs to do is make one Fort. DC 16 Save and he will be cured.

This is an interested rules query.... adding in Replaying makes this even more interesting. Sorry Slypher I had forgot that you were replaying this scenario.
So in that case do you even get a Chronicle Sheet? I can't find that in the rules packet. It says you don't get any "rewards" but says nothing about any "conditions" or "death."

In a normal situation you guys would be right. I document the condition and any ability damage taken on the Conditions Gained section. Your next GM would then allow for healing based on time. In this particular case, you will have plenty of time to heal without needing magic. The next chronicle sheet would then say you Gained back the ability.
The only rub would be if you were to get to 0 in a score, then there is an issue.

However, do you even get sheet since you were replaying the scenario?

I guess you could be Slypher II, and have the sheet go to that character, with the ability damage as noted above.

Anyway... I'll have sheets scanned and emailed out tonight at some point. You guys will have some time to update your sheets and we will start the next adventure in a few days.

I have a situation here. My gf is in hospital so next 3 days I'm not sure I can update the character.

If slypher played this with another char before he might get points. Thought lvl1 stuff is re playable.

Ok here we go:

There is one exception to these rules: All Tier 1 scenarios and Tier 1–2 sanctioned modules are available for unlimited replay with a 1st-level character for credit. The sanctioned modules can also be played with a 2ndlevel character once for credit. You may continue to replay the sanctioned modules with 1st-level characters after playing through them with a 2nd-level character. GMs can receive another Chronicle sheet each time they run one of the Tier 1 scenarios or Tier 1–2 sanctioned modules. No character can ever have two of the same Chronicle—the Chronicle must be applied to a different character each time.

Conditions, Death, and Expendables
When playing your own character, all conditions(including death) not resolved within the scenario or module carry beyond the end of the adventure. Likewise, any wealth spent or resources expended during the course of the adventure are tracked and must be recorded on the Chronicle sheet. All diseases must be resolved at the table. The character will either be cured or dead. Diseases which result in a character’s ability score (aside from Constitution) being reduced to 0 must be cured or the character will become unplayable. An unplayable character should be marked as dead when reporting the session. See additional rules under Dealing with Afflictions in Chapter 7 of this document.

Dealing with Afflictions (Chapter 7)
At the end of a scenario, a PC may have been afflicted with any number of possible conditions, such as blindness, curses, deafness, diseases, and poison. Verify that the player recorded any conditions in the Items Sold/Conditions Gained box on his Chronicle sheet and initial next to what he wrote (see below). It’s specifically important that conditions be written legibly so the player and subsequent GMs can understand them. If the PC purchased the casting of a spell to clear the condition, you need to make sure the player recorded that information in the Items Bought/Conditions Cleared box at the bottom of the Chronicle sheet. If another PC cleared the condition by casting a spell,
this information should be listed in the Items Bought/ Conditions Cleared box, but with a 0 gp value and the casting character’s full Pathfinder Society Number (XXXX-XX) written in next to the spell’s name. If a character resolved a condition gained during a previous
scenario during this one, check that the condition is listed as cleared under Items Bought/Conditions Cleared on the Chronicle sheet for this scenario, and verify that the cost for resolving it or the PC who cleared it has been recorded. Note: Any diseases or afflictions a PC has obtained must be resolved at the table once the game ends as explained in Chapter 5 of this document.

I´m not sure if i understand that rule completetly, since it´s a backlinking loop. Remove disease is also available for 1PP.

Pai- I hope she is ok! Take care of family, we will still be here. No worries.

The only thing about replaying a scenario is that it only applies to Tier 1 scenarios... not Tier 1-2 Scenarios (such as this one). There were a few forums posts from Mike Brock about this.
Essentially there are only a few scenarios that can be replayed (mainly First Steps 1-3 at this point).

Yeah no worries, but thanks. Should be ok now, when i left all was fine. Have to go give moral support and hold hands again though (something nice). Besides, this stuff here is relaxing me a great deal.

Yeah other than the First Steps series and a few Tier 1-2 Modules, a player can only have one player and one GM Chronicle and they can't both apply to the same Character.

Just to mention it, when i talk about rules or stuff, i´m discussing it because i´m only learning PFS rules (which is why i´m also interested in discussing them). At the moment my mind might also be busy with other stuff and i might not get everything. Sorry for any inconvenience if.

If we play Thronkeep and Dorgrin is not with us, i have a friend who would be interested in joining and would eventually play something rogue like first level fresh PFS character.

Pai- no worries. I know that most of the conversation around here is just to help each other further understand the rules of Pathfinder in general and PFS in specific. Keep the conversation going!

Pai- that actually works out great. I know that I'll need at least one, perhaps two for Thornkeep.

Dorgrin- do you wish to continue, or are you going to sit this one out?

Ok i will tell him to come up with his character and introduce himself in the recruitment thread.

Then i have another question. Several of us seem to be at 2xp. Will we get 3 xp at the end of the Thornkeep module or do we advance in level while the scenario? Judging from the PFS guide i fear the first is the case.

Thanks DrGabe but I prefer to sit this one out as I won't be able to get fully involved this time.