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Regarding prisoner transfers - we have a bonus. Morsum can easily take the prisoner. If they attempt to take him. I just send him home.
Err GM You seem to have forgotten both ROSA and Jax have been talking to the ogre and we asked in him things, we have been waiting for you to post replays and now Judge's PC shows up After working on the guard wile we where here with the Orge and it seems you skip us to go with his PC actions.
IF Judge's PC just walks in and basically says the same thing Rosa has just said, then she will sarcastically cut you short mid sentence with
"I am dealing with this, once I am done here you can till us what you found out form guard".
Im not trying to be off here GM but really we have been waiting for the Orges response to us.
what was posted by us and you as in game play -
Bref - As soon as Rosa gives Bref the go ahead he will unlock the Ogre.
Rosa - Rosa holds her hand up, waiting for the Ogre to talk before she gives the signal for Bref to let him out off his changes.
Orge - "Huhhhh... huh. Yeah. All right." He scratches his vermin-infested beard. "Yeah. What do I smash?"
Rosa - "Nothing until the others repost back what they have found out, whats you name and skills"
wile Judge's was asking questions
Also the Ogre is not free as Rosa held up her hand to stop his chines being unlock, until SHE gets his name hes staying that way.
Once Rosa has his name she will make him swear by it to Asmodeus, shes the cleric of the master on contacts, so she will make obey her.
Look I am happy with Judge's PC doing things but riding over Rosa and doing Asmodeus contacts, rosa would go ape ^&^% in game, and would really lead to friction, because its is coming over now as game and roll Hogging,
also it feels off, two locations two sets of actions and 1 PC gets to run bother with their posts. some thing not right there.
also gameket 101 on here is often banning long sting posts of "if that then this" posts are going to get real long fast with "what if actions", most GMs do lot allow this just because of that.
The main reason I jumped ahead and assumed Judge told the others is because pretty much nothing really resulted from the barrage of questions Jax kept posing to the ogre..figured we'd just move the game along more rapidly than having to repeatedly wait around for each character to re-iterate what has been said when the other characters weren't around.
The interrogation would have taken the same amount of time as anything the ogre really answers from the questions asked of him before getting released by Bref, and just after when Jax, Edwin & Rosa were asking him things.
I think DM is doing a good job here. Yes some questions got skipped and yes those in the cell have the answers before judge gets there, but we also have been posting 75 bazillion posts, very hard to keep up with sometimes.
I think it was a fair assumption to have had the info shared with us by judge, just as it is fair that we told the other things to judge when he arrived. I do not think we are at the point of withholding info from each other right now.
Things are going to be strained because their is no leader right now. None of us have a reason to trust each other or listen to each other. Only desperation holds us together. Bref was going to go see the prisoner no matter what. Interrogation is boring to him. Meta-wise terrible decision, but why would he stay?
perhaps I am reading intent wrong, since it is typed, but lets all take a breath here.
nothing to do with withholding info its about one group of player, playing out a scene and another group doing theirs and then coming in and taking the 1st groups scene, 5 or 50 posts a GM has to let players play their game or whats the point, there is moving the game on and there is handing to one group of players game to another single play which is what has just happened.
strained yes PC to PC but this is PCs to GM to PC not the same thing, we are talking Player actions being ignored.
Once the Orge says name and swears you can unlock him, should have taken no time. For Judge that's just what happen, then we can get on I am just pevid I have been waiting all day and then we get skipped by the GM for another players actions, Could have been the GM just missed it but 3 of use doing some thing should have been noted some how, I mean we where all three of us waiting in that room for a response.
Also I am not for one moment saying Judge did any thing wrong, I think he just thought ill go and say the same as the others and see of we can get this all done and move on. just felt odd we where missed out.
Yeah, keeping up with 20+ posts as a player is hard enough, as the GM? Phew. I understand that fine and things will get missed, think of it more as a nudge than anything! The games been run great so far and I like that Doug will take control to move things along, that's a quality that I think is necessary in a PbP Gm.
I apologize if it seems like I was pushing anything. Tohram is a legal mind, that is what he has spend the better part of the last century doing. When he sees someone which he thinks may be of use, he will demand acquiescence, that way if they violate the contract, he has no qualms with the outcome.
When he saw Grumblejack, the Judge's goal was to make sure that they had an understanding as to how thing were going to work, because having one person - PC or NPC running off and stirring up trouble is not an option. I had no interest in usurping anyone else, and actually did not realize that you had requested any swearing of an oath. This is all that I saw:
"We will let you out of the chains but you must do as we say, others are seeking to kill and capture the rest of the one running this place, and we do not want them to know we are free just yet, Range and hitting will come later for now, Stand and wait. Check yourself, are you harmed?"
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Which I did not view was a request for any binding agreement.
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If I miss something -- forget a character action, neglect you, don't answer your question (as I missed the Spellcraft check on the window until a minute ago) -- give me a nudge, please.
Regarding this, if people use standard formats for posts, it makes life much easier on the other players and the DM. My standards, which are fairly common for most pbp on this site are bold for speech, for Out of Character comments, Italics for internal thoughts, also good for telepathy and the like.
One thing that I have seen is people inserting skill checks within a paragraph. If this was where the missed spellcraft was, I can understand it getting missed as it is hard to notice, and easy to overlook when checking back to respond to things. With rare exceptions, when I make a roll it is of the format:
Perception: [dice]1d20+8[dice]
Attack-scimitar @ orc #3: [dice]1d20+4+2-4[dice]
You all are welcome to use whatever method you want, but if everybody uses the same formatting, it will make the DM's job much easier.
Also, if you use spoilers, be careful what you do and do not put in them. A spoiler with your current status (AC, HP, spells in effect, etc) is great, inserting a ton of speech into a spoiler makes it hard to track.
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While I doubt that all our characters will see eye to eye on things, so far I am really enjoying this group and hope that we make it out of here so that we can proceed to corrupt this good land into the despair of the dark lord.
People are free to view Hell and devil worship as they wish. However, page 37 of the Book of the Damned shows my view and why Tohram would view most of the "burn the place down and kill everyone" ideas as abhorrant, unnecessary, and chaotic like what would be expected from a demon worshipper.
As I am unsure about possible copyright infringement, if anyone does not have the Book of the Damned - something that I would strongly recommend reading for this campaign - please feel free to PM me your email and I can email the relevant page.
Judge your post is fine as it is but dos not address the main point I made which is this.
If the GM missed what three players where doing letting your PC do there actions, and seeing how the GM has posted and not responded to what has been said on this matter.
Walking in and taking over the scene is really Nurfs other players actions. I am asking you as a player to not have your PC do what it did.
I'm all fine with a nudge but but your PCs actions if allowed to stand are more like an 18 wheeled truck rolling over the top of three other players.
More to the point no way Rosa would let you do it, she would interrupt your PC saying
1 - "We just asked him that!"
2 - "I have this covered"
3 - "Please add to what he swears to but not to you, he swears to the Hell's and its lord and master"
Why do I add the last port. well because the GM made is clear that we needed to march to a common drum. Having him swear to Judge alone undermines every thing Rosa has been trying to do, so NO WAY she would let that happen.
The way I see it is the results can be the same, everyone dies. It is the why that makes the difference between CE and LE. If I can have a logical reason as to why I did something evil, other than I wanted to, or fire is pretty, I am following my LE alignment.
If I kill the guard so that he can not give us away after you told him you would not, him does not make me CE.
Douglas Muir 406, you should take it as a massive complement that your getting so many posts, this is a rocking game because your not letting things stall and pushing it on. I Think player to player can work things out here we are cool.
Life if i said to Judge.
Are you ok him tells our PCs his name and him swears on Asmodeus to follow us and do as we say.
if Judge says yes then we move on etc.
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That's just how I see it Edmin, this is not a random act of arisen this is razing to the grown and Enemy encampment in a war, and lets be clear on this, This is not peace time, the whole world has shifted to one side of the aliments and declared war on the other, not just faiths but races, wiping some out (or close to). There is no where to run off to, no safe haven, we are evil freedom fighters in a war to win back a place in the world. Now if you want to run and hid do so, but Rosa knows this is the start of her master plan to reawaken the war,(she has faith Rosa) this crushing of evil gos to a point and this it unites to push back, here and now is that point. In other words
ITS WAR!!
GM thanks for PC feed back, I have to point out Rosa has been with me a long time, she is in 2 other games on here and was in two other, each time made to fit the world and events she was in but always with the same core being, I see here as simpler to Michael Moorcook's 'Eternal Champion' always changing yet always the same. Her core being has some elements that always stay,
1: She fights the abyss seeking to swallow of realilty.
2: Absolute self belief she has a destiny (Happy or Sad).
3: She always has an Intelligent Item or follower, alone the way, a kind ideological shadow, right now she has not but it will come, always dos.
4: is always seen as Evil, because She's is absolute and utterly ruthless, lacking what others may see as true human emotions, Like a high functioning sociopath she can fake 'feelings' but any good seance motive check will show shes feeling things nothing at all like a normal human/elf/dwarf/orc/gnome any thing other than another outsider.
Its all just and act. She's not doing this with the intent to be scary its her very core personality, her personality bears very little resemblance to that of human norm.
How she become like that, well that's down the plane of reality. In this incarnation, she was sold to hell and then sent to Hell's Finishing School (by the way I just love that idea - Steal) all the above points will come out if I play her right.
So if she is all that, and all you say then that's the PC aim aiming for.
Rosa Luminass - Hound of hell.
GM Doug
hopping on a plane and busy a lot tomorrow, but hope to be able to post, DMDM I completely trust you to bot me if needed
Zimu, can you put you background up on your character sheet? It's helpful to me to have all that on a single page.
Hehe Berf sounds like me, I'm now stuck in Beijing rush hour traffic on my sorry a$$ way to the airport, thank the gods for 4G Mobil looks like I will have lots time for I could walk faster than this.. :(
back home, flight is always fast, 45mins over the yellow sea, 174km flight 45mins 13km drive to Airport 2:30 hours madness. no trafic her so home fast, ever one off to bed so have 20mins.
Yeah casting Grease is less awkward.
Rosa rolled well enough on her Perception to see the chimney, Doug said. If we assume she tells us, we can have Bref go through that instead of risking a cast of Grease now.
On disguise self: I think using it to get past a large group of guards would be a good use of it.
The grating voice of Morsum, much like bones being dragged across gravel: Master take under advisement. He like causing others pain, that his hobby.
Let me think what I can add to my background. Mostly the bribes were to get fresh blood - not the easiest or cheapest to get in a LG society.
I actually had him in Farholde most of the time. If that is the capitol, then I was in the capitol. My goal was to have him away from the center of things. Sort of running the courts in some out of the way city. I figured looking at the map that Farholde would not have been the capitol, although with his age, he would have gone to the capitol on many occasions.
Or he could have had Vampire Groupie in the goth Inn scean :)
I figure that over the years, he found sufficient suppliers. Butchers (lamb/pork/cow blood), not as good, but enough to tie him over until he can get the real thing. And assuredly he managed through his Asmodeus ties to find a few physicians, coroners, etc who were willing to "collect" a little extra blood, after all, money talks. And as a judge, he would from time to time have to check these places anyway - who better to testify regarding the cause of a death than the physician or coroner who investigated the death.
I am thinking along the lines of the double malt, a big comfortable chair and a good book, likely dealing with the undead and/or infernal powers.
More likely he would be heading toward vampire, that is what his taint is from.
"the day Brison came to your village and burned it to the ground, killed every one you knew and loved, was for you the west day of your life, it inspired you to spend a life time hunting me down for revenge, but for me, it was just Tuesday"
Mortal combats films only good line.
I have to work my night job until 4 am, please run Cуровую for me, I can't even look at the main thread right now, I will keep in touch with Bref, I will expend Force missiles if needed, up to two, as needed, in combat. Since she is unarmed she will not enter direct melee. Also she will delay and try to disrupt enemy spell caters as needed with Force missle.
Initiative
bref did tell her that he had two bakers that he was going to kill, before he tossed the cup.
dice are killing me. in another game I jsut rolled a 3 attack sequence with a 4, 1, 1.
While Bref does not care too much, I feel terrible...:/
who sold you them virtual loaded dice, shame on them I say :)
It happens, adds to the suspense of the game.
night DMDM!
Apology for possibly TPKing us aside.
Now that it looks like we can get out of this mess.
This is exciting as all hell.
I love the image of a baker, with abig hat and stache and rolling pin running down the hall with an insane goblin litteraly nipping at his heals!
This guy has to have like 6 HP and I have gotten 5 attacks on him at +5 to hit, and one was FF. Insane.
Hey - it makes it interesting, after all we are not a party, at least not yet, hopefully we can rectify that soon.
We did manage to have 92 posts in the last 24 hours, and that does not include the 27 in the OOC.
I am having fun and think that we can work everything out. Even if it does require drawing and quartering the goblin.
Cool thing about this game is we all seem to into posting, I have just dumped a few games that where running at one GM post a week, thats way to slow to get things going. the 100+ here means its fresh in the mind.
This guy has to have like 6 HP and I have gotten 5 attacks on him at +5 to hit, and one was FF. Insane.
A truly evil person would have tossed the cooks into the oven and prepared them for breakfast for the guards.
DM DM (I like that! Sounds like a retro rapper name)