Dogar: You need to update your background.
Elondor and Tenro: You both need to point me at the alias your using.
Mitra is the god they used in the AP, but Iomedae works just as well, so we'll use her instead.
Everyone else: Looks good I'll get this train-wreck moving tomorrow.
I'll get this train-wreck moving tomorrow.
You mean Dogar?
:D
What would you guys think if I went human, but took the alternate trait where I lose the extra feat and skilled, but get two stats at +2. Which would be better as a monk:
Str 20 and Wis 19 and no feat or extra skill point
or
Str 18 and Wis 19 with an extra feat and extra skill point per level.
+1/+1 attack/damage is a nice bonus, but is it worth the feat + skills. Most likely level 1 skill would be Improved Init (mine is currently +5).
Personally I like fetchling or dhampir, but with -2 Wis on fetchling and -2 Con on dhampir, it just is really bad as a monk.
This is Tenro's Undead Lord Cleric submission.
Also, Xzreth, if you are doing a monk, i wouldn't drop the feat, especially if you are doing the styles. Those use a good chunk of feats.
Monk is fairly feat starved so I'd say take the bonus feat if you're going human
Yeh - the problem is, I am not doing Monk of Many Styles. I think that I can do essentially the same thing with Combat Style Master. In essence with Combat Style Master, I can use an offensive style (Boar Style, Dragon Style) while fighting, and then switch to Crane Style or Snake Style for defense. And if I get knocked down, switch to Monkey Style to maintain the ability to fight and/or get back up.
Also, by taking straight Monk or Monk of the Four Winds instead of Monk of Many Styles, I will get the Flurry of Blows which is essentially three free feats and +5 BAB by level 20.
My big issue with the bonus feat is that it has to be one I qualify for with 0 BAB, this eliminates PA and lots of other combat feats (Weapon Focus, etc.) This leaves me with essentially Dodge, Improved Init or Toughness. If I put the extra 2 points into Dex, it would be the same as the Dodge bonus and better because of increases in Init, CMD and Reflex Saves. If I put the extra 2 points into Con, it would be better than Toughness (+1 hp plus +1 Fort Save). Same for adding it to Wis (+1 Will plus +1 AC & CMD (monk) plus more Ki points).
Can anyone else list any interesting feats that I am not thinking of? Choices seem to be:
Improved Init, Toughness, Dodge, Great Fortitude/Lightning Reflexes/Will, Nimble Moves, Mobility
Had to scrap my character, it came out in a way I didn't like. I'll have the new one up shortly. (tonight)
I'll get this train-wreck moving tomorrow.You mean Dogar?
:D
O' course 'e means me ye daft excuse fer a matchstick! What other train wreck do there be! Ain't know one what kin get wrecked better'n me! But it be a train wreck that'll kick yer scrawny flaming butt all tha way back tae tha dragon sneeze what spawened ye! Why, I've 'ad Boils what was hotter than yer hell hound fart self!
What would you guys think if I went human, but took the alternate trait where I lose the extra feat and skilled, but get two stats at +2. Which would be better as a monk:
Str 20 and Wis 19 and no feat or extra skill point
or
Str 18 and Wis 19 with an extra feat and extra skill point per level.+1/+1 attack/damage is a nice bonus, but is it worth the feat + skills. Most likely level 1 skill would be Improved Init (mine is currently +5).
Personally I like fetchling or dhampir, but with -2 Wis on fetchling and -2 Con on dhampir, it just is really bad as a monk.
I would think that you think about this stuff waaaaaaaay too much.
Just sayin' ; ]
Yeh - the problem is, I am not doing Monk of Many Styles. I think that I can do essentially the same thing with Combat Style Master. In essence with Combat Style Master, I can use an offensive style (Boar Style, Dragon Style) while fighting, and then switch to Crane Style or Snake Style for defense. And if I get knocked down, switch to Monkey Style to maintain the ability to fight and/or get back up.
Also, by taking straight Monk or Monk of the Four Winds instead of Monk of Many Styles, I will get the Flurry of Blows which is essentially three free feats and +5 BAB by level 20.
My big issue with the bonus feat is that it has to be one I qualify for with 0 BAB, this eliminates PA and lots of other combat feats (Weapon Focus, etc.) This leaves me with essentially Dodge, Improved Init or Toughness. If I put the extra 2 points into Dex, it would be the same as the Dodge bonus and better because of increases in Init, CMD and Reflex Saves. If I put the extra 2 points into Con, it would be better than Toughness (+1 hp plus +1 Fort Save). Same for adding it to Wis (+1 Will plus +1 AC & CMD (monk) plus more Ki points).
Can anyone else list any interesting feats that I am not thinking of? Choices seem to be:
Improved Init, Toughness, Dodge, Great Fortitude/Lightning Reflexes/Will, Nimble Moves, Mobility
Have you ever played in a PbP campaign?
Things are really slow, it's not very likely we'll get to lvl 20 in the near future. So thinking about how the character will be at lvl 20 seems a bit pointless to me.As for stats... stats are pretty incredible already (due to rolls), feats and skills are a bit more important in this situation unless you think maximizing them is all there is to a character
Wow, had my sheet 90% uploaded via your code and the page refreshed randomly. Idk why, idk how, but my character will be up in the morning. Imad. I'm playing Rengar, CE catfolk ninja.
Elondor. CE is a banned alignment. Just NE or LE. (to get around the whole evil characters never cooperate thing)
Yeh - per the AP, LE is strongly recommended, but NE of LN is acceptable I believe.
Yeah Elondor I type up the characters in notepad and save them to avoid the site eating my work
Had that happen WAY too many times.
Yeah... same here. This site loves destroying character sheets
Well my character kinda requires chaotic, as his wisdom score is 6 0.o guess i'll play him NE
With that wis score would he be able to cooperate with the party? I think the biggest prob for evil campaigns is everyone infighting
He'll be fine, I already know how I'm going to roleplay his wisdom. Think less 'do stupid things and fight random people' and more 'cat climbs telephone pole and gets stuck' =P
Hmmmm hello, Elondor sent me. (info on profile, took cat's claws and climber racial traits)
Ok, finally have this character finished. Background number six for WotW now done, I hope I do not have to create any more.
Final Decision - Human Monk of the Four Winds - planning on taking numerous style feats and Combat Style Master as soon as I can.
@ Elondor: I need a background. This isn't optional because I tend to invest in the RP aspects of the game a little more than the mechanics. I'm also need it to write the first post. You can PM it to me, you can put in your profile (I'd actually prefer this), or you can email it to me at salsa.the.geek@gmail.com.
Sorry about doing this, but I'm holding off on starting until Elondor can get me his character's background. Elondor, you've got until this time tomorrow.
DM-Salsa - just so that you know, my background changed substantially when I switched from Suli to Human - although I still have kidnapping as my crime.
Okay, I was going to have the backgrounds open as I wrote so I could drop a few bits in there, that's why I was rather miffed that Elondor didn't have one for his character. I'll give it a looksee in a moment.
Backstory up! Let's get this party started.
Post will come tonight.
You are all going to DIE!!!! - Oh, sorry, we all have death sentences don't we. Guess that first statement was pointless.
Death sentence? They told me this was an exotic tourist destination. I've been scammed!
i was here to hear about timeshares...
Well, some of us get to work in the salt mines (where I suppose we work ourselves to a slow, painful death).
Hmmm, lets see, Salt Mines vs. Death. I will take the easy way out, Death.
@ DM Salsa - not sure what your plans are, but I think that you should start a new game thread for this so that it will have the correct title and all and the first post will be the intro making it easy to find. - Just my 2 cents.
^ i was thinking the same thing
Ditto.
And @Dashuun: You did know that I was completely funnin' with Dogar's response to your wee dig at him, right??
@Dashuun: You did know that I was completely funnin' with Dogar's response to your wee dig at him, right??
Oh, okay.
@Dashuun: You did know that I was completely funnin' with Dogar's response to your wee dig at him, right??Oh, okay.
but only one! heh heh heh
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Goal #1 - make level 2 to get evasion
Goal #2 - make my reflex rolls to avoid Dashuun's burning hands
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Um, I'm not sure if this is really the format for you to discuss your and Dashuun's dating misadventures Xrezth...just sayin'
Hmmm, I thought that usually burning hands was caused by something other than dating.
Well, you may be right there, sounds like it might be due to a lack of dating
Great, now I won't be able to cast a spell without simultaneously casting a euphemism. You've ruined fire magic for me, and I'm a flame oracle. I'll have to keep my hands on my sword, just out of a sense decency.
Wait...
Ow, don't make me laugh, it hurts.
BTW Thread will be up soon I'll link to it from here. I am starting a new thread for this.
I feel like if any of your body parts are burning, you should probably see a doctor for it.. just saying
Well, fortunately I will be immune to disease and poison in a few levels. Then I will not have to worry about the burning hands. What we need is an Anti-Paladin - he will be immune to disease, but can still carry and spread it. Think of what he could do with high charisma at one of those illicit noble parties.
Maybe Lucias should dip antipaladin then? I shudder to think of the damage a high charisma sorcerer with an emphasis on charms could do with immunity to disease/the ability to spread it.
one of my favorite 3.5 characters was a Necropolitan Dread Necromancer/Paladin of Tyranny.
he was also the only one charismatic enough to get into a noble's party to track down a vampire we were trying to kill. As an undead creature he was the only one hahaha.
You would lose 2 levels of Sorcerer, but get +8/+5/+8 on your saves, a nice boost since Anti-Paladins get to add their Cha to their saves at level 2 I believe. Plague Bringer (immunity to disease) is level 3.
Actually, dipping in another class wouldn't be as completely ridiculous of an idea for Lucias as some full casters, because with the human favored class bonus, I get a bonus spell known every level (so losing two levels wouldn't cripple me, because the biggest problem with sorcerer is limited spells known, and I would still get 18 additional spells by the time I hit 20)
All the above said, I don't see an in character reason to multiclass out of sorcerer for Lucias, except maybe to dip a level of rogue. That could all change depending on how things unfold, of course.
Maybe you meet a Paladin you can't stand, and just really want to spite him.
You are a warrior of the devils. An infernal blooded sorcerer. Becoming an unholy knight would not be that far of a reach. But it is how you want to build it. I plan on sticking straight monk with 2 levels of fighter for extra feats.