I am likely to simply post tactics and their relevant rolls. Do you mind rolling saving throws for me? I'd rather not have folks wait.
I can do that.
Here is my completed character, feel free to ask me anything that I have not mentioned. When I join in (if i get accepted) I will have just discovered a cure for my sea-sickness.
Here is my completed character, feel free to ask me anything that I have not mentioned. When I join in (if i get accepted) I will have just discovered a cure for my sea-sickness.
It looks like you have 3 traits, but it should only be 2.
Hey Shaundakul, I'm pretty much all done. I'm not sure on your rules about how much money we're allowed or which traits we're allowed, so I've built my character up in the way I'd like to play him (if given the chance).
Let me know if you don't agree with anything. :)
Pyromaniac is a racial trait, that is not a proper trait. It replaces the Gnome Magic and Illusion resistance race traits. Like getting rid of Orc Ferocity for +1 on saving throws with a Half-Orc. APG page 15.
If this is not allowed, I will remove it.
Kiana and CaptainCortez
Okay, you are both in. You start with max gold for your class. I assume that is what you did for Kiana, but obviously nothing has been bought yet for Bandavaar. Everything else looks good.
Everyone
Can you all post your initiative and perception bonuses including any special bonuses for specific types of perception here, so that I can make note of them without having to scour character sheets?
Thanks.
OK, here they are:
Initiative: +0
Perception: +3
Scent page 564 of core rulebook. No bonus to perception.(Made error earlier, this is the pathfinder rule.) 60 foot range. 1/2 to 2 times range depending on wind. Strong odor x2, very strong x3. General location and direction until within 5 feet. Can track with Survival untrained/trained using unique modifiers. See full text if it becomes important.
Good to go, but last to act most likely.
Here is the information you desire:
+ 5 (+ 6 when Tiny)
+ 5
Here you go:
Initiative +4
Perception +6
Thanx for accepting me
Initial +4
Perception+2
I was just wondering, how are you doing Prestige Classes? In my tabletop games, the GM has made a house rule that once you enter a Prestige Class, you must take ALL level in that until completed. Also that you can only go into 1 Prestige Class, as it is an honour to be accepted into them. Does this sound like what you do?
I was just wondering, how are you doing Prestige Classes? In my tabletop games, the GM has made a house rule that once you enter a Prestige Class, you must take ALL level in that until completed. Also that you can only go into 1 Prestige Class, as it is an honour to be accepted into them. Does this sound like what you do?
I have no special rules for prestige classes. You can take as many as you want and advance as you desire back and forth.
A quick question. How are you doing the Brewing of Potions? I have Brew Potion as a bonus feat, but want to know you rules. If I try to make a potion, does it come out of my daily allotment of Extracts, or as it is just the formula for it is there no limit to making them (other than time and money)?
A quick question. How are you doing the Brewing of Potions? I have Brew Potion as a bonus feat, but want to know you rules. If I try to make a potion, does it come out of my daily allotment of Extracts, or as it is just the formula for it is there no limit to making them (other than time and money)?
Brewing potions is separate from extracts. Only you can use your extracts, but anyone can use one of your potions. I will follow the rules listed in the feats section. It takes 2 hours for potions less than 250gp in value, and you pay half the base price to brew a potion. You can only brew potions for extracts that you know.
Hey, just going to sort out my money (been out all day - been to three different towns - busy day, haha), but my Int and Per are as follows:
Initiative: +8
Perception: +2
Gonna have a look to see how I can introduce myself into the group. I'm guessing I could just say "you see bla bla standing by Elanna doing bla bla"?
Thank you for clearing that up
Perception: +8
Initiative: +6
Do you have a better method of posting a character, I'm using PCgen but the output leaves a lot to be desired.
Short of total manual entry or buying anything (like Hero Labs), is there anything I can do to have a better character sheet?
Which sheet are you using to make the char sheet? Statblock5 is the Pathfinder standard stat block. Other than that you can try the text only csheet.
Thank you, Nylanfs.
The output of Statblock5 is HTML which doesn't look right when used on the Paizo boards.
See this link : testyTest.
The text only csheet is what I used, After that I only took about 4 hours of hand edit to convert it to what is posted in my profile, I'm looking for better.
The problem is more the lack of capability of the boards more than PcGen. The text csheet lacks much of what Pathfinder needs but worse is the formating is incompatible with the demon Paizo runs it boards on. (It is a demon right? A computer server/code couldn't be that bad, could it?)
Some of the problems are :
The sheet uses blanks as white space, the board eats those spaces making output look like (censored).
Missing data like Clerical Domains, traits, CMB/CMD, etc.
But thanks for your attempt to help, any other ideas from anyone, please send'em.
Bandavaar I notice you still have no equipment listed in your profile.
Zaxarii, there was a reason I done the rolls in game for the choking. It was to see who would help Kerri and who she would go out of her way to help. Also a character building thing, as well as a friendship building thing. But I do see your point, I could have (and probably should have) just done it all, without the rolling.
Oh, it's OK Kerri, I meant no offense, I just did not understand and then I explained why. Everyone has there own way of doing things and mine is not better than yours. I see your point about character building but I fear this early part of the campaign is turning into the Kerri and Zax show.
It's caused by our higher rate of posts and longer ones. For those who cannot post more than once a day, if you can, please write paragraphs not just one or two lines. If suitable, add some character thoughts as well to show an inner life. I'll try to react to others more strongly, and pick up on little things but be proactive. I haven't played in a Play by post before but in my long lurking I see that games continue only if people find ways to be active. Not asking for much, certainly not as much as Kerri or I have posted, just two or three more lines per post can make a world of difference. Thanks everyone, good gaming and let's continue for months or years to come!
Fair enough. I'll do what I can.
DM : I am loving this so far, very interesting and I hope this campaign will keep on going for a long time to come.
I did not want to discourage anyone from posting as much as they want to. My rate dropped for a bit for RL reasons. Please post away!
I'm off to an event,expect to be gone for many hours, please DMPC me if otherwise play would slow down.
First round actions involve heroically standing and fumbling for my blade.:) Have fun!
Hectic weekend. I'll get something real posted tomorrow at some point. I'm trying to work out this mapping software, and I'm figuring it out. The first map will be very simple, but I'm thinking I will get better as time goes on. I'm downloading some images which is what is taking me time to do.
After my first watch, if it had have been pretty quiet, I was assuming we would have found a pretty enclosed area that stops water from getting in and was just going to get out my bedroll, take off my armour (due to fatigue kicking in if you leave it on) and use one of the canvas' acquired from the ship as a bed sheet to keep me relatively warm, so I'll probably do that when this fight is over. :)
He shakes his head and walks around the camp seeing to everything and everyone.Survival 1d20 + 3 ? (17) + 3 = 20
Seems the camp is well set.
The purpose of this Survival roll, though not called for by the DM, was to see that the campsite was as comfortable as could be managed. I do not know if the DM noticed or cared about this roll.
pathfinder srd
Equipment armor rules:
Pathfinder SRD Equipment-Armor
Under Armor check penalty:
Sleeping in Armor: A character who sleeps in medium or heavy armor is automatically fatigued the next day. He takes a –2 penalty on Str and Dex and can't charge or run. Sleeping in light armor does not cause fatigue.
Studded Leather is light armor.
As I pointed out in my most recent previous post, Zaxarii changed out of a Breastplate, a medium armor, and into Studded Leather, a light armor; unstated was the reason he did this, was to avoid the fatigue penalty. I know of no penalty associated with sleeping in a light armor; however it is the DM's call.
Once again not trying to aggravate anyone, trying to avoid problems before they occur. However, this is leading to an issue. I am not getting feedback on the environment or any unrequested rolls. Please DM run the game as you wish; I am grateful for the opportunity you have given me, but because I cannot see or hear your unstated reactions to anything, I know only what you post here, I don't know when I make unrequested rolls that pleases, irritates, leaves you indifferent. Does it make a difference? Other players and I are making up stuff, some DM's like that, others hate it. What is your stance? I am not criticising your decisions, only lack of clarity in what you want from me. Remember, make no assumptions, I know only what you post.
He shakes his head and walks around the camp seeing to everything and everyone.
Survival 1d20 + 3 ? (17) + 3 = 20
Seems the camp is well set.
The purpose of this Survival roll, though not called for by the DM, was to see that the campsite was as comfortable as could be managed. I do not know if the DM noticed or cared about this roll.
As I pointed out in my most recent previous post, Zaxarii changed out of a Breastplate, a medium armor, and into Studded Leather, a light armor; unstated was the reason he did this, was to avoid the fatigue penalty. I know of no penalty associated with sleeping in a light armor; however it is the DM's call.
Once again not trying to aggravate anyone, trying to avoid problems before they occur. However, this is leading to an issue. I am not getting feedback on the environment or any unrequested rolls. Please DM run the game as you wish; I am grateful for the opportunity you have given me, but because I cannot see or hear your unstated reactions to anything, I know only what you post here, I don't know when I make unrequested rolls that pleases, irritates, leaves you indifferent. Does it...
Zax,
I understood the reason you changed armor, so felt no need to comment. I should have asked about the survival check, but must have glossed over it. It's bound to happen. I have no issues with random rolls, but it might work better if you add an explanation via spoiler, if it isn't obvious why you would be making the roll. I think the game is going quite well, and am enjoying the group interaction.I will enforce the fatigue rules, but since I didn't specifically mention that earlier, I will give Gustav (the only other person who has bedded down that normally wears medium or heavier armor) the choice of whether he removed his armor and is suffering from a lower ac this battle, or whether he will be fatigued the next day.
I have little experience running games, so I am bound to make errors. Let me know if I do anything way out of bounds, and I will correct them.
I hope I answered your concerns.
Gustav wears a masterwork chain shirt, so he's fine to keep it on.
Studded Leather is light armor.
I was referring to myself. I'm not in light armour, so was airing what I was doing to the DM. :/
I wasn't referring to your armour as I'm not meta-gaming or looking through your stats to see what you have.
Bandavaar, my apologies, I did not check your armour either, I meant no offence.
Late last night a thought occurred to me, what is Elanna doing? She is not in the initiative list, does not seem to be targeted, yet likely could do something. I suspect she has no combat ability but that might not be true. Also, as the sister of one the seven wealthiest nobles in all the realm, she should have significant items on her, some magical. The wealth by level convention of D20 systems doesn't work well with dealing with NPC's who have position and power unrelated to their level. It's like she is a precious inanimate object rather than a person, and that it seems odd to act that way, especially for Zaxarii.
Bandavaar, my apologies, I did not check your armour either, I meant no offence.
Ah, I'm not offended, just wanted to clear things up is all. :)
As for Elanna, I too thought it was a bit strange as I've gone running off into the fray, leaving her behind who I'm meant to be protecting, thinking she should be safe at the back there, but I figured I may have to run back to protect her at some point, yet she's not a target, haha.
What an easy job Bandavaar has.
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Take 5-Foot Step
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don't perform any other kind of movement. Taking this 5-foot step never provokes an attack of opportunity. You can't take more than one 5-foot step in a round, and you can't take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance.You can take a 5-foot step before, during, or after your other actions in the round.
You can only take a 5-foot-step if your movement isn't hampered by difficult terrain or darkness. Any creature with a speed of 5 feet or less can't take a 5-foot step, since moving even 5 feet requires a move action for such a slow creature.
You may not take a 5-foot step using a form of movement for which you do not have a listed speed.
This uncertainty of whether or not standing is movement or if movement requires you to leave your starting square has provoked discussion. You will need to make a ruling as it can be argued either way. There are move actions that do not deny the 5 foot step such as getting something from your pack.
Zaxarii may be making a charge. Is the terrain clear enough that a charge is legal? Some DM's allow characters to cross squares diagonally while charging as long as the line of charge is as straight as possible. other says only if no diagonal moves are made. To me the latter restriction is artificial but your interpretation stands. What I'm thinking of doing is charging to Square F14 or E14 and attack bandit in F15 leaving bandit in D15 open to fire allies near the campfire. With Zax's move currently 30' (light armor and no pack) he should have plenty of movement to do this. OK?
Questions?
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I agree with your interpretation of 5ft step. I unintentionally left it off the map. I also agree on your interpretation for charge. It needs to be a straight line, but that is not always easy to represent on grids. I didn't place any obstacles, so assume it's possible. I see no reason Ferocious Strike can't be used with a charge attack.
Sorry no post yesterday, it was hectic. Also, I will be heading to Las Vegas Friday morning, so there will be no posts from me on Friday or Saturday. I will return Sunday evening, so will try to post something then.
I'm admit I'm puzzled by the AoO myself.
The bandit leader threatens all squares around him. Provoking an AoO requires the target to either leave a threatened square or do something else that gives the AoO.
Looking over the Table of Action in Combat
I do not see anything I did that gives an AoO. A melee attack doesn't and Ferocious Strike is a Supernatural Ability not a Spell-like one.
Also due to Zax's Orc Ferocity:
•Orc Ferocity: Once per day, when a half-orc is brought below 0 hit points but not killed, he can fight on for one more round as if disabled. At the end of his next turn, unless brought to above 0 hit points, he immediately falls unconscious and begins dying.
He is still standing and concious and there is no rule I can find that denies his AoO against the bandit leader for A) drinking a potion and B) for leaving a square Zax threatens.
So what was the action and rule that provoked the AoO and if it is not retconned can Zax AoO the bandit leader?
I addressed it in the game thread. I messed up. Hopefully I'll get better with the rules over time.
I'm not sure about others, but I don't feel like things are getting confrontational, the characters are just disagreeing. I think that vengeance is a rational feeling after assassins literally just struck, regardless of one's alignment. No one has made a move to harm the prisoner yet, the characters seem to be just voicing their concerns/feelings. It wouldn't be as interesting if we all just agreed :D
I feel like am not making myself clear. I've studied medieval history quite a bit. In that context Zaxarii is going to handle things in a certain way. I most certainly am not playing him as a member of an adventuring group. He is a noble with the responsibilities thereof and involved in a event of enormous significance. House Lebeda is one of the seven great noble house of Brevoy. Looking at the map and making a few measurement (yes I did! and yes I'm kind-of obsessive) I figure Brevoy is about 180,000 square miles in size. That is vastly larger than England (50,000 sm) and much larger than the Isle of Britain (100,000 sm). At only 10 persons per square mile that 1.8 million people. At a more reasonable 30+ that's more than 5 million people, the Lebedas control about 1/7th of that. Elanna's brother is the heir to that, her mother controls it. House income in the 10's of millions of gold pieces a year. Loyal armed retainers, many mounted knights, number in the thousands, possible 10's of thousands. The city guard that Harbador mentions works for her brother. Many, maybe most of the ships on Lake Reykal and the rivers connected to it are owned by her brother. Also he is the legal governor of that area. The law courts work for him and can be fired by him (there may be royal or ecclesiastical courts that aren't but not relevant to this). I could go on for pages but I'll try to make it ridiculously simple by saying that the assassination attempt would rank in political terms somewhere between the shooting of President Reagan and 9/11. Zax feels the pressure and the idiots like Bandavaar and Harbador (and a revolutionary like H should know better ) are treating this like a pimp just beat his strumpet. Zax is beyond angry, he wants the prisoner questioned by professionals (who would not be ordinary city guards, more like Torquemada). So in this context Zaxarii feels he is bending over backward to placate foreigners that are acting like jerks. He is going to stop placating. I do not want as a player to cause trouble but with the behavior I have seen why would Zax, after the immediate situation, ever let either of Ban or Har (getting tired) get near him, much less trust his life on daring adventures in the future? I really want an answer to this because I see Zax trying to duel Bandavaar to death for the equivalent of deliberately peeing on the carpet at a White House dinner (or better at Tony Soprano's house.) He just does not accept such insolence, only the dire situation he is in, with the lives of the party a tiny part of it, has kept him from more serious behavior. Harbador he want to knock some brains into him, for someone who rants about the terrible power the capricious nobles wield, he seems to have little concept of how much power that really is. Cast a dozen charm person spells, say 1,000 gold pieces? Pocket change, even less than that. Think of Elanna as the sister of a state Governor, Petra Ecclestone, and a scion of the Kennedy family rolled into one, and still not as important as she'd be in a feudal realm like Brevoy. The problem is as a player is that Zaxarii will not do anything (like adventure) with Ban or Har now or ever unless something both dramatic and reasonable happens. Yes, some conflict is good of course but this threatens the game continuation, and I'm as desperate as Zax to avoid irretrievable damage.
Right, I read most of that, but the end was just repeating the point over and over.
Zax may want to hurt Bandavaar, but seeing as they spoke and were relatively friendly beforehand and Bandavaar pretty much took time out to speak to Zax, I think going from being okay with him to killing him in one move is a bit drastic.
What Zax needs to understand is that he wanted to take the leader prisoner without asking the whole group first.
Bandavaar, having his heart set on glory in battle disliked this idea and still classed the assassin as a threat (which he is). Before Zax stepped up, it was just Bandavaar and the leader. This was a fight between the two as Bandavaar wanted the glory of this fight and purposely put his life on the line to keep the whole group out of harms way (from arrows at least). He's taken everyone's position into consideration.
However, Zax coming in and intervening with Bandavaar's fight confused Bandavaar and pretty much agitated him when he came in, didn't let the fight continue and immediately demanded to question the leader and take him prisoner.
So, what did Bandavaar do to please the group? He begrudgingly put his weapon away, allowing Zax to do as he pleased even though it wasn't his wish. He then punched the leader to knock some sense into him, putting the point across of you can't go in to assassinate someone, lose, then expect mercy from a band of people you don't know. That's moronic.
Zax's problem from a player perspective is that he can't accept other peoples wishes and doesn't take the time to try to think from their perspective before getting agitated.
Zax and Bandavaar are from very different backgrounds. I'm acting in character every time when I type as him, acting as he would whilst keeping him as a good character.
Like Harbador's player, I feel that if every character got along entirely, things would be a lot less interesting. If I acted any differently to please others, he just wouldn't be my character.
I don't see any problem present here at all. I'm just assuming both mine and your characters will no longer see eye to eye, but that's fine with me as if we're team players we'll still protect the party and do good things (or neutral in your case).
I'm acting as my character. If it's that much of a problem for you, I'll stop playing. If you read back on my posts from the start I've been trying to form bonds with other characters from the start. Yours included, but Zaxarii thinks Bandavaar's an idiot. Bandavaar thinks Kiana's an idiot. Kiana thinks Bandavaar's an idiot, Harbador is caught in the crossfire and currently Bandavaar is trying to get friendly with Alistair, knowing that Zax has a low opinion of him. It's Bandavaar's gut instinct telling him that from Zax's facial expressions and reactions to certain things.
One thing I will say though is that if Bandavaar was Chaotic Evil, he'd stand by and watch as you all got attacked, refusing to do anything about it, possibly attack you all for the sake of it when you're all weakened, not take others actions or positions into consideration, kill the leader without so much as a blink, then try to kill Zax for getting involved.
The above couldn't be any further from Bandavaar's personality if it tried. He has nothing but good intentions, but having his glory stolen mid battle annoyed him and I've already stated numerous times why he punched the guy who surrendered. There is no surrender in the arena. Only life and death. In a fight between two people, only one must step out alive (granted that fight really wasn't going my way, but Bandavaar would have preferred to die in battle than risk having a prisoner break out of chains and kill him while he slept. There is also no honour in killing a prisoner.....hence the punch to his face. Let's not forget that even with his arms in the air, the bandit was still armed when Bandavaar hit him).
I haven't posted much in here previously because I've had no problems. I don't see this as a problem to be honest, but I've typed as much up as I need to further explain my actions. I just wish we could just play and not worry about this. It's extra, unnecessary typing for the both of us.
I don't see a problem though personally. Just stick to one and see what happens. If a big issue does surface, I'm sure Shaundakul would say something.
No need for two separate campaigns when there's nothing wrong with this one.
It's like in real life. If you have a job and are working with someone you don't like, you don't try to kill them and don't quit your job if it means a lot to you. Instead, you have a disagreement, ignore each other for a few days, then when you have to work together, you get on with it.
Absolutely do not want anyone to stop playing. I'm just trying to head off a problem, probability too hard. And your right, my previous post was way too long, my apologies for that. Bandavaar's reply makes perfect sense if Zax and a foreign gladiator were social equals but they're not. I'll drop it for now in the interests of group solidarity, it does not help that we don't know each other in person and tone is lost in posts. I just hope a reason to get all of us together comes up. And I think everyone is playing characters very well, this is a character problem not a player one. Hope I haven't spoiled anyone fun.
Yea, well I'm not trying to be standoff-ish in any way. I just wanted to explain things to you and sometimes explanations can come across as too serious. Add that to the fact you can't see emotions or read people over the internet and it's easy for people to become confused and possibly take things to heart that weren't meant in a bad way.
I'm an easygoing person though, so don't worry too much. I'm not going to have a go, but yea, right now, a few characters have issues with each other. Maybe the issues will be ironed out over time, or the characters will just put up with each other. I dunno. We shall see. :)
At this point though I would have to say having a couple of character disagreements and issues is more life like and will mean we really have to work to try and overcome them. That way we can all become friends and will have the respect that we have earned for each other. Also at the moment we don't know what the characters are like, so we are bound to find things that we may not agree with. But that is the best part of role-playing I think, having issues and solving them.
No-one has spoiled any fun for me, I am loving this campaign and can't wait to see what happens next. Can you imagine Shaundakuls face when they get back from Ls Vegas and sees all these posts?!
I must say I was taken aback when I saw the number of posts over the last 3 days. I think we can continue as planned at this point. There are some personality conflicts, but they seem to be between characters and not players so I'm not too concerned. I am having fun. So you are all aware, I am mostly doing this on the fly, but planning some ahead as needed. I want you to determine how this story moves. I apologize for my rules errors, but am taking them in stride as you seem to be, so let's keep this going as long as we can.