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I agree with everything you've said, however, Shinon isn't willing to go that far for someone he views as just a common bandit. To be honest, to him ending a person's life is a mercy because the alternative is either being caged for eternity in prison or...well, what you described. Intense rehabilitation or enhanced interrogation. Quick killing without unnecessary suffering is what Shinon prefers (This guy pushed him a little further than anticipated, so in the heat of the moment he was willing to do something against his own moral code, and I was already prepping to change his alignment for it).
That said, neither Shinon nor I certainly have any intention of stopping you. Shinon will simply disagree and refuse to dirty his own hands.
Depend son what version of Punisher you talk about. Pure Marvel Punisher might have good tendencies due to the limits of the medium but the MAX version is full bore 'kill em all'.
I don't blame Shinon for going all out like that, but a little diplomacy/buff dealing with 'Are you the ones killing those folks? and maybe getting a face-to-face with Henk might have been better, but spilt milk and all, lets just see how things go.
I have thick skin and don't mind gritty mature themes, as long as everyone remembers this is a public forum and adheres to the rules of the forum. I, also, don't want to lose a player if they do get offended with a topic or a course of action. So speak up if there is an issue with ANY topic.
I, also, appreciate Duncan asking about the torture rules. It's a game, as the DM, I generally will let the characters do what they want including torture to obtain information. In the case of torturing a prisoner from the GM POV, it may have reprocussions such as: alignment impact, an impact on NPC's or PC's attitudes to name a few things. That list is not intended to be exhaustive as there may be other ramifications.
I will remind everyone that evil is forbidden PC alignment. Everyone is suppose to be the hereos, rather than villians. I, also, don't want infighting with the group.
Whoops. Just forgot something big we didn't do earlier..
Masks.
Didn't have our masks on in the sewer and while talking to the prisoner,
so this makes things more difficult. I suggests a 'Masks on' rule when PCs
go out where we auto put on masks.
Whoops. Just forgot something big we didn't do earlier..
Masks.
Didn't have our masks on in the sewer and while talking to the prisoner,
so this makes things more difficult. I suggests a 'Masks on' rule when PCs
go out where we auto put on masks.
Oh. Crap. Seconded.
If you want a mask on you all need to state there is mask on. No auto rule.
Sweet. Also, make no mistake.Duncan is good and tales no pleasure from any of this. He's simply a grisled veteran of many battles who has seen too many deaths to stuff around being noble if others will suffer because others won't get thier hands dirty. The ends justifies the means.
He won't go against group descision though. He's been waitin for a chance to make a difference in Westcrown and sees this as his oppourtunity.
My laptop power cable has been irreparably damaged. I have a new computer on the way. It should arrive sometime next week, around the 13th of July. Until then, I will simply not be able to log on. I apologize for the inconvenience.
My laptop power cable has been irreparably damaged. I have a new computer on the way. It should arrive sometime next week, around the 13th of July. Until then, I will simply not be able to log on. I apologize for the inconvenience.
That stinks...I'll DMpc him, if I have to.
My laptop power cable has been irreparably damaged. I have a new computer on the way. It should arrive sometime next week, around the 13th of July. Until then, I will simply not be able to log on. I apologize for the inconvenience.That stinks...I'll DMpc him, if I have to.
Tell me about it. After I finish up these warnings and log out of my school computer, I'm going to have to spend a full week offline. It's...crazy.
Have a library computer or internet cafe?
Ok. What can we do once we sort out the buisness of the bandit? Since Shinon will be out for a week, I dunno about main plot stuff but we can still go goblin hunting.
There are numberous options available to the group.
1. John's goblin offer from the dottari.
2. Back to the sewers.
3. Shadow beast hunting.
4. investigation
5. Arael has job for the group but that needs the whole party.
I intend to continue moving this story, even wihtout Shinon's availability.
1. Goblin offer sounds good
2.Sewers maybe. Of course we need something to make sure we don't barf all over the place again. Luckily, we have those perfume bottles form the merchent. This might be the chance to suss out just what Henk is doing.
3.Shadow beasts are a bit more iffy, from what Kenji has said, we may need special weapons(magic/silver/etc) We might need to go shopping for that.
4.Got some leads such as the debt ridden Dottari captain
5.Main plot of course.
Remember Kenji went out solo against the shadow beast and that certainly factored into the battle. It will still be difficult.
Arael's mission is more main AP plot oriented. However, like I've mentioned I have no problem making the main plot the secondary track. I actually like the noble/corruption/bandit plot that I've tossed into the mix.
I'm holding off posting in the game thread until Duncan and John answer Ermolos.
Looks like the questioning of the bandit is left to John.
Just wondering if it has rolled over to the next day for the hideout group or if it is still evening.
still evening for them.
Just a little heads-up. The upcoming post is an alternate reality scene that I thought up regarding Andrea's crisis of faith. I might throw in a WTF? one in there as well depending on how impish I am feeling. :)
Ouch. Down to 8 Str 8 Dex 13 Wis and 11 Con. That will teach me to escape to drugs. Might end up running around in a loincloth due to being to weak for armor.
Ouch. Down to 8 Str 8 Dex 13 Wis and 11 Con. That will teach me to escape to drugs. Might end up running around in a loincloth due to being to weak for armor.
There is no alternative reality for Andrea. She has a serious problem she needs to deal with. First, she needs to resist the temptation of the drug for a day. Second, if you can resist for 24 hours then you can try to clean yourself up. Third it will be costly to get the sort of assistance you need for the remove disease and restoration spells you will need. That is if you want to get back to the party in a reasonable amount of time.
Yea. Time for a few Resistance orisins. :) Maybe Duncan can sit on me and provide his +4 resistance to trip so I don't go anywhere. :)
Possible plot hook? Do a service for the spellcasting. A little geas applied on top the the cure spells. No disrespect but one must be sure..
Phew Kenji is trying sooo hard. Seriously though, I have never understood how rich kids can be so obscenely stubborn. I must say it astonishes me every time I see it. Kenji doesn't want to hurt him but if he continues to resist, Kenji will accept the boy WANTS to be tortured. Since it is at the boys own desire, Kenji will allow him to do so if he resists much further.
In Kenji's mind, people don't normally want to be hurt so he is just a bit confused. But at the same time, he believes the boy knows this and in resisting he is saying "Yes I want to be tortured" and who is Kenji to judge what people really want?
So, if this kid won't wise up, Kenji will assume the boys answer is the hard way and stop defending him. I will let you know when that happens but I also don't expect the others to be patient forever, I will be done soon.
I dunno. I get the sense of the correct questions are not being asked.
I'm trying.
I fear he will resist no matter what I say. Kenji doesn't believe Henk and his men are murderers. He really doesn't know what they've done. Anyone could have killed that poor fellow and simply tossed him in the sewer. If Henk and company were truly murderers and thugs, they would have killed us on our first encounter yet they accepted payment for information and stuck to the deal. In truth they are rather honest men in Kenji's eyes. If they are what Duncan says they are, They would have lead us into a trap, they know the sewers well enough to lead us into a trap and take EVERYTHING we have rather than simply show us the way out for a few coin. They have definitely shown they have some skill at tactics with the fog wizard and nooks.
Honest men really.....hmm when I get a chance I should share this with the party. Now that I look at it, it sounds legitimately relevant.
Maybe they aren't even thugs but another group of freedom fighters like us. Hmmmmm. Wheels are turning.
Just read Baldwin's last post. Oh man this is good stuff. I am totally posting this in IC now
He has answered Kenji's questions.
Hmm.. I think I have an idea about the investigations. It depends on what info Andreal gives us about Thieflings and the gangs. Also about the connections between the victims and the gangs.
This next segment with the dottari members is based off of John's character. He does not post as much as the other members; if possible, I would like him to post a bit more when group gets together with the dottari. That would make things easier with the conversation.
Ok, I'll try my best.
When you go to sleep you can perhaps switch over to Tower Shield figher.
Back from game night. My players are involved in an in game tournament right now and phew is it wild. It is giving them all a chance to PVP but in a no kill environment. On top of they also get to use NPC contestants against each other. So player chatacter is in the arena against an NPC and I hand the NPC over to another player who isn't fighting. Keeps everyone involved and allows the PCs to test there mettle against one another. Really fun!
Now I just looked at the IC and OMG! Not only does Kenji feel bad but so do I. I feel ashamed for playing my character the way I did lol. I am sorry Janiven! Can you forgive both Kenji AND I?
I am tired. I will post tomorrow afternoon. I need time to think about what to say and I am a horrible mixture of exhausted and high strung right now. Freakin crazy feeling.
Excellent, Kenji feels terrible. Adding twists and turns for the character. It is easy to justify Kenji's actions since he has different customs so communication can be difficult. It plays out very well actually.
Ok, I'll try my best.
Anything you can do at least in the beginning where the introductions occur will help. Thanks
I have busy day today, so I don't expect to be online until this evening.
Andrea I'm DMpc'ing Shinon right until he gets his computer situation straightened out. I don't know if he woul lend coin to you, pretty sure he would cause he is somewhat friendly with your character. However, I have no idea what coin he has to lend.
Peeked at Shinon's sheet and he does seem to be lakcing somethings. Goodness I might just have to swipe it out of the possessions of the bandit we captured!
I believe we are still on different time tables? Andrea doesn't get tot he safehouse until afternoon?
Agh! Curses! flubbed the roll.
I believe we are still on different time tables? Andrea doesn't get tot he safehouse until afternoon?
That is correct but Tarvi and Arael will be there when you arrive. Not sure if any of the PCs will be there when you're there.
Andrea can you remind me how many coins/loot and the descriptions? I don't want to toggle though the pages or just put up a link for me. Thanks
Studded Leather armor
12 pp Hexagon shape
55 gp leaf shape
89 sp
21 cp
Diamond earring
lapel pin with cross knives
Signet ring
hidden dagger Magical
short bow masterwork
11 arrows
punching dagger
light mace masterwork
On page 14 there is also listed a diamond earring that I forgot to throw into the main list.
Oh lordy, now Andrea is stealing from the till.
Studded Leather armor
12 pp Hexagon shape
55 gp leaf shape
89 sp
21 cp
Diamond earring
lapel pin with cross knives
Signet ring
hidden dagger Magical
short bow masterwork
11 arrows
punching dagger
light mace masterworkOn page 14 there is also listed a diamond earring that I forgot to throw into the main list.
Oh lordy, now Andrea is stealing from the till.
You all should divide the loot before it gets buried in the pages.
Ermolos grabbed the Msw Shortbow and quiver of 11 arrows. He would ask for the item...sort of prize from his first major conflict where he didn't have to hide behind a rock.
The group would have had the chance to look through the items during the morning breakfast before Andrea gets her little fingers on the coin.
Ok, scratching off the shortbow and arrows. Perhaps Duncan can have a look at the coins.
Of course things never go to plan. Perhaps Andrea gets interupted when she ponders swiping the coins. Just who would be able to do that I wonder? ;)
Duncan, Andrea will arrive in the afternoon since she is at work in the morning and stayed at the bathouse for the night. Feel free to talk about her when she isn't with the group though. :)
Duncan is cool though. He would never say anything bad about a fellow team-mate like Andrea.
Sorry for my absence lot of stuff went wrong today but I managed to correct them. Stuff just took some time. I will post once I see what has taken place. Again I apologize.
Janiven is awaiting your response. :)
Looks like John and Shinon are the only ones without proteges, maybe that cute limping waitress can catch John's eye. :)
If anyone wants to make an appriase check on the loot go ahead and do so.