And Then a Skeleton Popped Out: subSPUF Carrion Crown

Game Master Rynjin


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Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

" If that is how you feel.. so be it. You , ofcourse, will be paid your due amount as customary for service... "


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

"I need to make use of the University library at Leipstadt first, as that is why I first came here. Once I've made use of that, provided I find no leads on my affliction, I might as well continue on with you all, I'm not used to having company, I enjoy it."

I have some questions Rynjin. You were gracious enough to let me retrain Air Step earlier, may I dump some other spells as well that I have no yet cast? I don't mind paying retraining costs if you like.

Also, I was wondering how my blackened curse would effect me when in elemental form. The curse itself say it makes it hard for me to use my hands because of the burning pain, it seems odd to be burning...while being a fire elemental...let me know on that one.

Also, Blacked Curse mentions weapon attacks, by the rules this would apply to melee touch attacks and unarmed strikes. But I'm wondering how you feel about it? If I took IAS, I could in theory use my legs to attack with, would that still incur the penalty? Do melee touch attacks, count themselves among weapons?


Male Human Monk 5 (Qinggong Master of Many Styles from the Sacred Mountain)/Fighter (Brawler) 3

Yes, you may retrain spells or Feats you haven't used before. My philosophy on that is "If you've never used it, your character never had it", though once you've used it you'll need to seek out normal channels for retraining and pay all associated costs and time. Your Blackened curse would still affect you normally in any form you chose. it is a Curse bestowed upon you by a divine being...mortal shapechanging magic doesn't override that, so by RAW and RAI, and lore it's clear that it persists.

As for the Blackened Curse, RAW speaking it would apply to all weapon rolls (including your Scorching Rays, funnily enough) but I think the intent was for attacks with Manufactured weapons, Unarmed Strikes (that use your arms, like punches and elbow trikes), and Natural Attacks (that use your hands, like Claws and Slams). So delivering a touch spell is fine (no penalty) but attacking with anything else for the most part incurs the -4, unless it doesn't use your hands (Gore attacks, kicks, the Barbazu Beard, etc.). But I personally would limit that further to affecting all manufactured weapons, because getting around the curse should not be THAT easy. If you take IUS, you may kick, knee, and headbutt, and Natural Attacks not using your hands do not incur the penalty, and nor do touch attacks of any variety.

It would be a decent FAQ candidate but it's in a Player Companion and they don't FAQ those as a general rule.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Yeah I considered that my rays might also incur the penalty, but then in the benefits of the curse they give me Scorching Ray...What?

Thanks for the rulings :).


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

" Fine then you both have chosen to continue.. I guess I dont need to search for others. As for company, I cannot assure you my type to be good company. We will travel together however. "


Sheet | Male Half-elf Investigator (Empiricist) 12 [dex mutagen] | HP 69/75 | Init +5[+2]
AC, Saves:
AC 27[+4](+4 bk), T 16[+2], FF 22[+2](+4 bk) | (All saves +3 Good Hope) Fort +10, Ref +16[+2], Will +13[-1] (+4 illusion, +2 enchant, immune sleep)
CMD, Senses:
CMD 25[+2], FF 20 | Perc. +1d6+26 (+10 elixir, +6 vs traps), Low-light vision, Sense Motive +1d6+18

*ahem*

Jones Shei'lac wrote:

"As long as we're still here, would you terribly mind allowing me to copy some formulae from your book? It would help immensely with our hunt of the Whispering Way."

Diplomacy: 1d20 + 15 + 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 15 + (1) + 1 = 23

In any case, Jones will Identify the ivory figure and ring.

Spellcraft (Figure): 1d20 + 25 + 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 25 + (5) + 1 = 34
Spellcraft (Ring): 1d20 + 25 + 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (15) + 25 + (5) + 1 = 46


"Unfortunately, my formula book was destroyed, along with my Bomb vials and much of my other equipment. I can prepare a small few Extracts from memory, but no more."

I guess if you want to wait a few days he could scribe down Youthful Appearance, Endure Elements, Lesser Restoration, Restoration, Breath of Life, Greater Age Resistance, and Planar Adaptation from memory.

The figurine is a Figurine of Wondrous Power: Ivory Goats. it is worth 21000 gp.

I can't remember what ring you're talking about, and it's not in the loot list. Jog my memory?


Sheet | Male Half-elf Investigator (Empiricist) 12 [dex mutagen] | HP 69/75 | Init +5[+2]
AC, Saves:
AC 27[+4](+4 bk), T 16[+2], FF 22[+2](+4 bk) | (All saves +3 Good Hope) Fort +10, Ref +16[+2], Will +13[-1] (+4 illusion, +2 enchant, immune sleep)
CMD, Senses:
CMD 25[+2], FF 20 | Perc. +1d6+26 (+10 elixir, +6 vs traps), Low-light vision, Sense Motive +1d6+18

From the Mummy we "killed".

Rynjin wrote:
The Mummy wears a ring, and his coffin is made of gold, and could be worth up to 2000 gp to the right collector...if you could get it out of here.


Ah, guess his coffin WASN'T stone.

The ring is a Ring of the Ram.


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

We loot it


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

"Hey Caromarc, isn't the Seasage Effigy just a piece of interesting looking garbage? Why did the cultists want it?"

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Male Human Monk 5 (Qinggong Master of Many Styles from the Sacred Mountain)/Fighter (Brawler) 3

"I have no clue."


Male Human Monk2/Brawler 10 HP 103/124 | AC 26 T 15 FF 22 | CMD 31 (+14 grapple; +6 trip; +4 bull rush) | Fort +18 Ref +17 Will +13 | Init +9 | Perc +28 SenMot +27

I think, between Sledge and Darius and Ant Haul from Jones, we could transport that coffin. Sledge will loot the Bulette hide, as well.

"Alright then. I think we'd best rest up before leaving, though."


I'm going to assume that, no matter what, you spend a day selling off goods.

1.) Do you want to do that before or after you talk to Daramid?

2.) Is there anything here you want to keep?


Sheet | Male Half-elf Investigator (Empiricist) 12 [dex mutagen] | HP 69/75 | Init +5[+2]
AC, Saves:
AC 27[+4](+4 bk), T 16[+2], FF 22[+2](+4 bk) | (All saves +3 Good Hope) Fort +10, Ref +16[+2], Will +13[-1] (+4 illusion, +2 enchant, immune sleep)
CMD, Senses:
CMD 25[+2], FF 20 | Perc. +1d6+26 (+10 elixir, +6 vs traps), Low-light vision, Sense Motive +1d6+18

I say talk to Daramid first.

Would you mind putting up the loot list so we can see if there's anything worth keeping?

The Ivory Goats might be useful, but personally I'd rather sell it.


Z has no real connection with Daramid, I think only Jones does? So I'm in no hurry to go speak with her, we'll tell her when we tell her, Imo.

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Male Human Monk2/Brawler 10 HP 103/124 | AC 26 T 15 FF 22 | CMD 31 (+14 grapple; +6 trip; +4 bull rush) | Fort +18 Ref +17 Will +13 | Init +9 | Perc +28 SenMot +27

Sell the goats.


Jones Shei'lac wrote:

I say talk to Daramid first.

Would you mind putting up the loot list so we can see if there's anything worth keeping?

The Ivory Goats might be useful, but personally I'd rather sell it.

[oo]I did put up the loot list. It's right here.[/ooc]


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

We sell the loot, because its heavy, THEN talk to Daramid.. We need to figure out loot splitting and whatnot and what we can buy


Sheet | Male Half-elf Investigator (Empiricist) 12 [dex mutagen] | HP 69/75 | Init +5[+2]
AC, Saves:
AC 27[+4](+4 bk), T 16[+2], FF 22[+2](+4 bk) | (All saves +3 Good Hope) Fort +10, Ref +16[+2], Will +13[-1] (+4 illusion, +2 enchant, immune sleep)
CMD, Senses:
CMD 25[+2], FF 20 | Perc. +1d6+26 (+10 elixir, +6 vs traps), Low-light vision, Sense Motive +1d6+18

Fine, fine.

Jones reaches into Partyspace and grabs the unidentified wand he just remembered about, and Identifies it as well.

Spellcraft: 1d20 + 25 + 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (7) + 25 + (2) + 1 = 35

Anyone mind if I keep the sword cane? Might be useful if I need to sneak in a weapon somewhere. Also it's cool.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Not including the wardrobe we don't see a price on, the assorted arrows, and the Masterwork Swordcane, and I don't see the bullete hide, we're sitting on 40k.

Not including the wand Jones identified just now either.

I'll assume we don't sell the arrows due to them not being worth too much and being pretty useful.

So if we can get a price on the wardrobe and see what the wand is we can figure out loot.

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Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

I'm going to assume for a moment that the wand and wardrobe are of nominal value, the bullete hide is worth 20k, bring total wealth up to 60k which upon being sold is obviously 30k.

The rest of the party requires 6k gold to catch up to Sledge. So 18k goes to Darius, Myself, and Jones, leaving the other 12k to be split four ways.

End result:

Darius, Jones, and Myself pocket 9k gold, Sledge picks up 3k

Edit:Fair warning that I did not include the base price of the weapons when considering their sale value, so my loot value is off by ~50g

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Ah, the "wardrobe":

10 Noble's Outfits at 75 gp apiece = 750 gp
1 Royal outfit = 200 gp
6 Scholar's outfits: 30 gp

Total = 980 gp

And the wand is a Wand of Charm Monster with 44 charges (18, 480 gp).

The Bulette hide would fetch a price of 30k as two sets of Full Plate, but I'm going to halve that for it being raw material and not the finished sets of Full Plate.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

I wasn't too far off in my guess then as I figured 20k. So another 15k total in loot.

Readjusting brings us to 12.750g for myself, Darius, and Jones. Sledge with 6.750g.

Also can you turn my DM Tuyena profile to inactive, it keeps wanting to default me to posting under it, sorry about that.

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No problem. Lemme check that math real quick. It sounds about right though.

Total of all sold items: 37, 267.5 gp

Divided evenly: 9316.88 gp apiece.

Zin WBL: ~13k
Jones WBL: ~14k
Darius WBL: ~13k
Sledge WBL: ~15.5k

It does not appear to me that Sledge has that significant of a wealth advantage over you guys. Unless you meant 6k collectively?

So in that case, divided to bring you all up to around the same amount:

Final Payout:

Zin: 10k
Jones: 9k
Darius: 10k
Sledge: 8k

Leaving 268 gp left over for the party fund.


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

You must not have calculated it correctly.. he has, about ~ 17k~ not including gold, the rest are about ~13k


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Yeah I added it up last night, Z has 13,500g, Sledge has something like 18k or 19k

Now that I'm home I'll get a 100% accurate gold count.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Ah ok nvm you already took it off the list, well i did not include Caromarc's gold nor the gold sitting in the list, so thats another 8k, so another 2k for all.


Male Human Monk 5 (Qinggong Master of Many Styles from the Sacred Mountain)/Fighter (Brawler) 3

+2 Breastlate: 4.4k
Eagle Eyes: 2.5k
AoMF +1: 4k
Ring: 2k
Buckler: 1k
Cloak: 1k
Snapleaf: .75

Total: 15.25

Edit: Ah, missed that he had 1200 in cash still. So ~16.9.

In which case you would get:

Zin: 10.792k
Jones: 9.792k
Darius: 10.792k
Sledge: 5.892k

Apiece. That puts everyone on even footing, plus or minus a few hundred gold, yes?

Zin'Retatarianna Mor wrote:
Ah ok nvm you already took it off the list, well i did not include Caromarc's gold nor the gold sitting in the list, so thats another 8k, so another 2k for all.

The gold in the list is "party fund". Recently depleted by a few Restorations and whatnot, but that gold stays where it is. Forgot Caromarc's gold though.

So everyone gets another 1125 gp in addition to the above.

Edit: Standby. Bad at math today. I blame the heat.

Edit 2: Fixed, I think.


Male Human Monk2/Brawler 10 HP 103/124 | AC 26 T 15 FF 22 | CMD 31 (+14 grapple; +6 trip; +4 bull rush) | Fort +18 Ref +17 Will +13 | Init +9 | Perc +28 SenMot +27

Sledge gladly accepts their terms, as it is more money than he has seen in one place in his entire life.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Sledge's Wealth


+1 Brawling Mithril Breastplate (8,400g)
+1 Mighty Fist Amulet (2000g)
+1 Ring of Protection (2000g)
+1 Cloak of Resistance (1000g)
Eyes of the Eagle (2,500g)
Mithril Buckler (1,000g)
Snapleaf (750g)

Total Value: 17,650g + 1243g carried + misc kits


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Rynjin you forgot you all only charge 2k for AoMF, but also forgot Sledge's BP is mithril, +4k gold cost


Male Human Monk 5 (Qinggong Master of Many Styles from the Sacred Mountain)/Fighter (Brawler) 3

Ah shit, I see where I messed up. I forgot that was a BREASTPLATE, so an extra 3k. Ugh.

So, final-ish total:

Zin: 10.941k
Darius: 10.941k
Jones: 9.941k
Sledge: 5.441k

Plus the 1125 each from Caromarc puts you all at about 24k.

Sound right? I'm probably going to bed soon. My AC went out around 3 and I've been scrambling all day to get it fixed with little success.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

You may want to check your math again Rynjin

37,267.5 + 4,500 = 41,767

Subtracting the 18k to make us even with sledge. (6k each) That puts us at 23,767, divided 4 ways, is basically, 6k a piece. (5,941g)

Ergo, myself, Darius, and Jones make 12k, Sledge makes 6k.


Male Human Monk 5 (Qinggong Master of Many Styles from the Sacred Mountain)/Fighter (Brawler) 3

That's close enough to what I put it makes no nevermind. 10941+1125 = 12066 (6566 for Sledge, 11066 for Jones because he has 1k more gear than you guys seem to).

This would be easier if you guys kept a running tally of your total wealth, because totaling up 4 people's gear gets tedious very quickly.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Rynjin, you once said this I'd love to know more.


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

This is relevant to my interests


Male Human Monk 5 (Qinggong Master of Many Styles from the Sacred Mountain)/Fighter (Brawler) 3

While that is a quote from long, LONG ago, I still think if the intent was only to increase your rounds of Bane by 5, it would simply instead say "If the wearer is an inquisitor, she gains an additional 5 rounds per day of her Bane or Greater Bane abilities" instead of "If the wearer is an inquisitor, she is treated as five levels higher when using her bane and greater bane abilities ." because that is the only level dependent variable of Bane besides when you qualify for Greater Bane, which is simply an increase in Bane effects (not a new ability).

It's a little up in the air, but I'm inclined to allow it, at least in this case. This would let Darius get Greater Bane at level 9 instead of 12 (or, 14), which I'm fine with.


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

My pants dont fit anymore... thank you.. Soon.. Sooooon


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5
Rynjin wrote:
"I have no clue."

"Mysterious F%$#ers."


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

Darius roars at Zin, " YOU'RE one to talk. This entire time we havent been given YOUR name. Sarenrae's Light, I simply knew you as Crazy fire wench or You or little Girl "


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

Z turns to face Darius and blinks at him slowly. Then begins to put out her bottom lip and pout.

"...No one ever asked my name..."

Rude.

She seems to cheer up quickly though, "Oh well! At least you're asking now right!?"

Z coughs quickly to clear her throat, and then begins to manifest fire in her hands, and shortly thereafter a large pair of wings made entirely from fire extend from her back.

"I am Zin'Retatarianna Mor! But, you can call me Zin or Z for short!"

Z then takes a finger and puts it up the her face and gives the party a wink, "I'm your resident fire goddess."


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

Heresy

Darius stares hard at Zin " Zin... when one meets another.. they are to give some form of name.. but What I will not stand for is... YOU being any of MY fire goddess.. that belongs to Sarenrae and Sarenrae alone.. such heresy... " He sighs.


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

"Hey, don't get bent out of shape. I'll accept fire witch, fire queen, or mistress of flames too, I've got plenty of ideas to work with."


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

" As long as fire goddess' is not among them. You haven't done anything to gain that title.. and I had another name for you .. but it was no where what those grandstanding titles show.. It was close in pronunciation, however. " Then Darius' eyesight kicked in... and his mind let what he saw kick in.... His eye twitched heavily.

" YOU HAD WINGS WHY DIDN'T YOU FLY BEFORE? You made me carry you.... I thought you couldnt get across. "


Female Human Oracle 10| Sorcereress 1| HP 70/70 | AC 28[32][35][40], FF 25[27][30][35], T 13[15][18] | Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 | CMD 22 | Perc +13, SM +11 | Init +5

"Flying inside just seems like poor form. Isn't that like, bad luck? Dozer flew while inside."

"And you carried me, so it was fine."


Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23

Darius twitches, " ... How... is that fine? If you have a way to get past something.. you use it. That, is common sense. I am not your shuttle to be used if you had other ways over. It was also.. demeaning. "


Male Human Monk2/Brawler 10 HP 103/124 | AC 26 T 15 FF 22 | CMD 31 (+14 grapple; +6 trip; +4 bull rush) | Fort +18 Ref +17 Will +13 | Init +9 | Perc +28 SenMot +27

"You seemed to enjoy the 'demeaning' bit, to be fair."

As he says this, he grabs Jones. "C'mon, let's leave these two alone for a while. We're going drinking."


Sheet | Male Half-elf Investigator (Empiricist) 12 [dex mutagen] | HP 69/75 | Init +5[+2]
AC, Saves:
AC 27[+4](+4 bk), T 16[+2], FF 22[+2](+4 bk) | (All saves +3 Good Hope) Fort +10, Ref +16[+2], Will +13[-1] (+4 illusion, +2 enchant, immune sleep)
CMD, Senses:
CMD 25[+2], FF 20 | Perc. +1d6+26 (+10 elixir, +6 vs traps), Low-light vision, Sense Motive +1d6+18

"Better than arguing about gods, I suppose..."


Male Human Monk2/Brawler 10 HP 103/124 | AC 26 T 15 FF 22 | CMD 31 (+14 grapple; +6 trip; +4 bull rush) | Fort +18 Ref +17 Will +13 | Init +9 | Perc +28 SenMot +27

"Duh."

Sledge gets wasted, and does his best to make sure Jones does the same.

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