Where do you see these spells? Can you provide a link or provide examples?
Unless stated otherwise, all cleric spells are on the oracle's spell list.
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There are a group of 'Meditative' spells introduced in the Divine Anthology that are available to clerics but not Oracles:
Spells listed are:Meditative Spells
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Though some of these spells are on the cleric spell list, they can’t be part of an oracle’s list of spells known. Spontaneous casters such as oracles or sorcerers cannot benefit from the effects of a meditative spell, nor can characters who use such magic without preparation via Use Magic Device and a magic item, since part of the process of casting and maintaining the effects of a meditative spell involves tying the act of weaving the magic into the very process of meditation and study that a prepared spellcaster (such as a cleric or wizard) undergoes at the start of every day.
- ENLIGHTENED STEP
- FIREWALKER’S MEDITATION
- RITE OF BODILY PURITY
- RITE OF CENTERED MIND
- SEE BEYOND
- SPIRIT BONDS
- VISUALIZATION OF THE BODY
- VISUALIZATION OF THE MIND
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d20pfsrd is not an official source.
I think you are operating under a misconception. Oracle spells are generally not stated as such in the books. Even the book Oracles were introduced in, the APG, does not have oracles in the list of classes able to cast the spell unless it is an 'Oracle only' spell.
Any spell that states "Cleric" is able to be cast by an Oracle unless stated otherwise.
Spells: An oracle casts divine spells drawn from the cleric spell lists (see pages 226–229 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook).
Here is an example of a "Cleric 7" spell that does not state "Oracle 7". In that spell is a reference to Oracles using it.
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Several of the spells here (it's only the official Paizo lists):
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-lists-and-domains/spell-lists---cleric
Which, reading further, have something in common... The ones that aren't listed as (Cleric Only) that aren't actually tagged in the oracle list are all side-book released ones that were released AFTER the Oracle class - such as the (Un)Holy Ice Blade spell.
Okay, looked up 'Holy Ice Weapon' and found it came from the Advanced Class Guide. I then opened up my PDF of the 'spells' chapter for that book and searched for 'oracle' and found 0 matches.
Going back to the Advanced Player's Guide, the rules for Oracles state 'An oracle casts divine spells drawn from the cleric spell lists' so technically speaking, there is no separate 'spell list' for Oracles: If a spell is available to clerics, it's available to Oracles as well (with the specific exception of 'meditative' spells from the Divine Anthology).
D20PFSRD, by the way, is NOT an official Pazio site: It belongs to a third party and may or may not be accurate.
Several of the spells here (it's only the official Paizo lists):
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-lists-and-domains/spell-lists---cleric
Which, reading further, have something in common... The ones that aren't listed as (Cleric Only) that aren't actually tagged in the oracle list are all side-book released ones that were released AFTER the Oracle class - such as the (Un)Holy Ice Blade spell.
Okay, looked up 'Holy Ice Weapon' and found it came from the Advanced Class Guide. I then opened up my PDF of the 'spells' chapter for that book and searched for 'oracle' and found 0 matches.
Going back to the Advanced Player's Guide, the rules for Oracles state 'An oracle casts divine spells drawn from the cleric spell lists' so technically speaking, there is no separate 'spell list' for Oracles: If a spell is available to clerics, it's available to Oracles as well (with the specific exception of 'meditative' spells from the Divine Anthology).
D20PFSRD, by the way, is NOT an official Pazio site: It belongs to a third party and may or may not be accurate.
It tends to in fact be more accurate. Especially when you realize the PRD still has not updated the Ultimate Equipment Errata.
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It tends to in fact be more accurate. Especially when you realize the PRD still has not updated the Ultimate Equipment Errata.
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D20PFSRD, by the way, is NOT an official Pazio site: It belongs to a third party and may or may not be accurate.
Well, in this specific case, it's incorrectly indicating that Oracles can't learn several Cleric spells...
Personally, I dislike that site for it's inclusion of 3rd party material and it's changing of names to avoid infringing on Pazio's IP (both of which are annoying from a PFS perspective) but I can see the overall appeal (I generally prefer http://www.archivesofnethys.com/Default.aspx)
It tends to in fact be more accurate. Especially when you realize the PRD still has not updated the Ultimate Equipment Errata.
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D20PFSRD, by the way, is NOT an official Pazio site: It belongs to a third party and may or may not be accurate.Well, in this specific case, it's incorrectly indicating that Oracles can't learn several Cleric spells...
Personally, I dislike that site for it's inclusion of 3rd party material and it's changing of names to avoid infringing on Pazio's IP (both of which are annoying from a PFS perspective) but I can see the overall appeal (I generally prefer http://www.archivesofnethys.com/Default.aspx)
What spell is that? If you mean spells that are only tagged as "Cleric 7" that is how they are actually tagged and PFSRD is correctly reproducing that. Not knowing that these spells are also Oracle Spells is a player error that would be made regardless of what source was consulted whether it be book, prd or pfsrd.
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It tends to in fact be more accurate. Especially when you realize the PRD still has not updated the Ultimate Equipment Errata.Several of the spells here (it's only the official Paizo lists):
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-lists-and-domains/spell-lists---cleric
Which, reading further, have something in common... The ones that aren't listed as (Cleric Only) that aren't actually tagged in the oracle list are all side-book released ones that were released AFTER the Oracle class - such as the (Un)Holy Ice Blade spell.
Okay, looked up 'Holy Ice Weapon' and found it came from the Advanced Class Guide. I then opened up my PDF of the 'spells' chapter for that book and searched for 'oracle' and found 0 matches.
Going back to the Advanced Player's Guide, the rules for Oracles state 'An oracle casts divine spells drawn from the cleric spell lists' so technically speaking, there is no separate 'spell list' for Oracles: If a spell is available to clerics, it's available to Oracles as well (with the specific exception of 'meditative' spells from the Divine Anthology).
D20PFSRD, by the way, is NOT an official Pazio site: It belongs to a third party and may or may not be accurate.
They were saying it is less accurate with regard to how it reproduces the rules. They often take liberties with how they word or format the rules.
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Actually, Wraith, funny enough... the Paizo page doesn't even HAVE Holy Ice Weapon on it's listing, so I'd say that the PFSRD having it, but not tagged right, is still more accurate than the Paizo page, liberties or not. They also usually only adjust wording when there's errata which adjusts the rules or an FAQ which clarifies a point of contention. Usually.
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It tends to in fact be more accurate. Especially when you realize the PRD still has not updated the Ultimate Equipment Errata.
More accurate in some ways, way less accurate in others as there are many situations where the site edits the text to be "more clear" when in fact making it less clear.
I recommend using the pdf books/errata, or archiveofnethsys in that order.
If the spells in question are used as part of a cleric's spell preparation process, than oracles can't use them as they do not prepare spells.
