The specific statement that it can take a full-round action to make a new save overrides the previous, more general statement that it cannot take any actions.
Though really they should have put the 3rd sentence 2nd and then said "cannot take any other actions, even speech." Poor writing strikes again :-(
You're over thinking it.
You can definitely make the saving throw, as it's specifically mentioned in the spell as something you can do despite other actions not being allowed.
It's also really only the paralyzed condition, and you can still take purely mental conditions (although there aren't many).
is taking a saving throw taking an actual action?
is taking a saving throw taking an actual action?
Normally it is not as saves are normally purely reactive. In this case it is a full-round action because the spell says so.
It's also really only the paralyzed condition, and you can still take purely mental conditions (although there aren't many).
psychic spells are all purely mental, wryyyyy!i used to play hold person as it only gives a paralyze condition. but one of my friend tells me that according to description, hold person is a specific condition in addition to paralyze.
but i can't find rules or faqs that support me, so i cant move under both freedom of movement and hold person.is there any rules can imply hold person only makes victim paralyze?
Freedom of movement temporarily frees you from "magic that usually impedes movement, such as paralysis, solid fog, slow, and web." That's not an exhaustive list, and hold person clearly falls under the description.
Not every effect is, but any "you can't move and/or attack" part of the effect would be, because that's what FoM says. (I didn't include the bit about attacking in my quote earlier.)
For instance, you can move and attack freely in solid fog, but you still can't see through it.
I suppose one could argue that under hold person and freedom of movement you can do nothing except move and attack---no talking, no drinking potions, etc. That would be a unique situation in PF AFAIK, so I'm dubious, but I can't actually disprove it.
is taking a saving throw taking an actual action?Normally it is not as saves are normally purely reactive. In this case it is a full-round action because the spell says so.
The point of making it a full round action is it prevents you from making your subsequent save and acting on the same round.
Yeah, the spell makes the save an action so that if you do try it and save then you can't take any (well most, not none) actions.
To me it's unclear whether or not its supposed to be a greater version of paralyze and prevent mental action as well. My only thought is that if it supposed to be a greater version of paralysis that also prevents mental action, they don't make it clear enough.
First they mention paralysis, but then say can't take any action. But it's unclear if that's more just a reminder about what paralyzed normally does, and since there aren't many action types that are purely mental it doesn't come up much.
SLA are purely mental, so this is something that could easily happen since core. GMs in my area rule it as greater paralysis. You can take no action except the full round save.