Fernn |
Hello,
I would just like some clarification on something odd, As gm, I am more than willing to allow it, but I would like to know in what spectrum of the rules it falls on.
In my game, I have a PC who is a treesinger druid.
Her Familiar is a Sapling Treant, who at lv3 got 1 boost to its INT raising it to 3(somewhat sentient)
Then At level 4, it adjusted to be a large creature with a whopping 23 STR.
This druid took the mounted combat feat as well.
Not to mention that this PC also has a guisarme.
So does combat work the way the player expects it to?
Mount the treant, poke at enemies, while the treant double slams things? And in a pinch, the treant could also climb a tree (30ft climb speed) and the druid can shoot with his longbow?
So here are the real questions:
1. Is the companion considered a "mount"?
2. While mounted on the treant, does the Druid get reach with his guisarme?
3. Since the treant has 3 Int, are handle animal checks required?
4. Since the treant has 3 Int, does the druid need to roll ride checks, as opposed to telling the treant what to do?
5. If no ride checks are needed for directing the treant, then how does that play off the mounted combat feat? Is a ride check rolled to "steer" the treant away from potential danger?
BONUS Question: What happens if a character with mounted combat rides another player(who is presumably large with enough str)? Would the player with mounted combat steer his buddy away from attacks using his ride check?
Imbicatus |
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The Treant is not a "suitable mount", so there would be a -5 to any ride checks. You would also need an exotic saddle.
To answer your specific questions:
1. If you are riding a creature, it is a mount for the purpose of any feat or ability that requires one.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Ride checks are still needed.
Bonus: If you have the Mounted Combat feat you can negate hits against whatever you are riding.
Fernn |
The Treant is not a "suitable mount", so there would be a -5 to any ride checks. You would also need an exotic saddle.
To answer your specific questions:
1. If you are riding a creature, it is a mount for the purpose of any feat or ability that requires one.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Ride checks are still needed.
Bonus: If you have the Mounted Combat feat you can negate hits against whatever you are riding.
Another followup question, how does initiative work with this?
Would the Treant and druid act on the same turn?Also
Suddenly the idea of a Goblin Jockey with a reduce person spell to mount his friends seems like an interesting Idea.
Claxon |
For initiative, if the treant got to act before the druid would be allowed, it does nothing until the druid directs it to so it's irrelevant.
For a more rules accurate answer:
Your mount acts on your initiative count as you direct it. You move at its speed, but the mount uses its action to move.
Dave Justus |
For your bonus, it is somewhat debatable what rules apply to another PC being a mount. Mount isn't fully defined in the game, and whether a PC can be one, expecially if not in a 'mount-like' shape is questionable.
Personally, I would only a PC to use another PC as a mount if the mount PC was in a reasonable 'mount-shape' and even then I wouldn't allow mounted combat and similar feats, since the mount PC is not properly trained.
Selvaxri |
I'm asking this here, so i don't start my own thread-
I have a Saurian Shaman druid with an Ankylosaurus companion. The PC itself is a halfling, and rides around on the dino- mostly out of combat to compensate for the difference in movement speeds (and the dino carries all of his gear and weapons)
Does the Dino count as a suitable mount, if i do ride it into battle?
Derek Dalton |
I'd say yes. Consider this a Cavalier archtype and a Prestige class have the ability to take larger mounts are actually make them bigger. I think it would be comical seeing a Halfling riding such a dinosaur but by book rules it can serve as a mount. Taking appropriate feats and skills and you are good to go.