| ElterAgo |
A GM was trying to panic players by hinting that pretty soon they would be meeting up with ‘bunches’ of creatures that swallow people whole. (Around level 10-12.)
I want to give a little startling jab back with a build that will fight back out from inside a creature. Maybe even doing more damage than would have normally been possible. Note: I won’t actually run the build, we’ve already agreed on my caster. This is just a “well oh ya…” build.
iirc, many of things that swallow whole do heat or acid damage to those swallowed. So resistance to those would be a plus.
Small sized weapons since won’t be able to swing something big. Actually, a natural attack build might be good for this.
Armor spikes seems perfect, but don’t those only do damage if you win an opposed grapple check? I can’t imagine winning a grapple check from inside something.
A ring of spell storing with eruptive pustules, calcific touch, cape of wasps, cup of dust, flaming/freezing sphere, fire seeds, fire shield, wall of iron, tar ball, etc…
Do you think Fire Snake would work to fill up its inside with fire?
Hmm… Summoning a bigger creature?!?
Ideas Please!
| Gwen Smith |
Actually, acid resistance will probably do the job:
"A swallowed creature can try to cut its way free with any light slashing or piercing weapon (the amount of cutting damage required to get free is equal to 1/10 the creature's total hit points), or it can just try to escape the grapple."
You should be able to do 1/10 a creature's hit points in 2-3 rounds, so you just have to survive that long.
A couple of ideas:
1) Negative energy channeler with a tattoo holy symbol. No concentration check, can't be disarmed of the focus, wouldn't harm your party from inside the creature. This has the advantage of being useful when you're not swallowed, also.
2) Grinding armor. "A swallowed creature keeps the grappled condition, while the creature that did the swallowing does not", so anything that automatically does damage to a creature grappling you would work. (And grinding armor is "barbs and burrs", which sounds like piercing damage, to me.)
3) Shirt of immolation. Depending on how you read this item, there is no activation action and it will continue to operate even after you're dead. That's 10d6+100 damage to the creature that swallows you. Bonus: you get to make heartburn jokes.
On the "just avoiding it" side, try boots of escape. I've seen these used to escape a creature's stomach.
| Claxon |
The easy thing to do is just carry a pair of backup kukri's. The AC of the creature's stomach is 10+1/2 natural armor bonus (usually relatively low) and you only need to deal 1/10th total hit point damage to cut your way out of it's stomach. And it can't use swallow hole again unless it receives healing.
All you really need to do is slice and dice your way through it's gullet. Heck, a lot of times the damage you receive being inside the creature is substantially less than what you would receive if the creature just full attacked you.
Do remember that anything you cast inside the creature as an AoE will also affect you. You can't summon a creature inside another creature, it's against the rules. Neither can you conjure a wall of iron into it's stomach either.
A creature or object brought into being or transported to your location by a conjuration spell cannot appear inside another creature or object, nor can it appear floating in an empty space. It must arrive in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it.
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Bottle of air + Dominate Monster = best living armor ever?
If you had a poisoner rogue with you to change some drow poison into an ingested poison, which you could then release 10 doses of at once (750 gold worth, 375 crafted) to knock the creature unconscience, the poison having a DC of 33. Then simply Coup de Grace the creature from inside :)
| Lamontius |
Lamontius wrote:Feather Token: TreeThis is just classy.
I think this was my character's reaction after the fact, but I appreciate the sentiment.