Darth Vader; Samurai Lord of the Sith?


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The other day someone linked an awesome picture of darth vader done up as a samurai that I absolutely loved.

This got me thinking...what would the Dark Lord look like if he were indeed a samurai in the pathfinder world...Well here's what I cooked up.

Thoughts?

Darth Vader


As samurai he doesn´t need Exotic weapon P. for katanas.


Helikon wrote:
As samurai he doesn´t need Exotic weapon P. for katanas.

I thought he still had to take the prof to wield one handed; well that just free's up another feat.

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Maverick898 wrote:
Helikon wrote:
As samurai he doesn´t need Exotic weapon P. for katanas.

I thought he still had to take the prof to wield one handed; well that just free's up another feat.

Yes - but Samurai automatically get the feat at level one as a bonus feat.


Charon's Little Helper wrote:
Maverick898 wrote:
Helikon wrote:
As samurai he doesn´t need Exotic weapon P. for katanas.

I thought he still had to take the prof to wield one handed; well that just free's up another feat.

Yes - but Samurai automatically get the feat at level one as a bonus feat.

Fixed. Replaced it with Improved Initaitive.


Since I don't have a Microsoft OneDrive account, I can't see this build, but I'm guessing its a mixture of samurai and psionicist, although the command status of Darth Vader as a military leader and bureaucrat, using a 3PP samurai-esque prestige class called Bugyo might prove helpful to such a build.


He'd have to be a psionic class, at least in part, because that's what the force freakin' IS.

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Zhayne wrote:
He'd have to be a psionic class, at least in part, because that's what the force freakin' IS.

What the force "freaking is" is gobbledeygook with science and simplistic moral trappings laid over it.

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I always thought force users were eldritch knights. I'd try magus, but the jedi mind trick going, "these aren't the droids you're looking for", is charm person/charm monster, which is a wizard spell. Also force choke = suffication. Also wizard spell :( Force lightning = chain lightning.

Then go into hellknight signifier with the awesome hellknight armor as your vader suit!


Angel-Blooded Aasimar, middle-aged but with the Spark of Immortality trait, has monstrous strength and charisma. 2 Classes...

Lunar Spirit Guide Oracle:
Seems sluggish, but defends himself through sheer force of charisma (prophetic armor); has access to nasty magic powers (divine spells + lore spirit arcane spells); can force people into a rage (mantle of moonlight); can smite people with pain and blindness (moonbeam); and of course... (lame curse) slow-moving, but unburdened by heavy armor and utterly immune to fatigue.

Armored Hulk Barbarian:
Fights with short bursts of Rage thanks to lame curse, abusing strength surge and spellsunder; fast and hard to crit in heavy armor.


Maverick898 wrote:

The other day someone linked an awesome picture of darth vader done up as a samurai that I absolutely loved.

This got me thinking...what would the Dark Lord look like if he were indeed a samurai in the pathfinder world...Well here's what I cooked up.

Thoughts?

Darth Vader

This is amusing to me since I'm pretty sure that George Lucas modeled Vader's helmet after samurai armor at the very least.

Lots of similarities between the Jedi and bushido as well.


Roan wrote:
Lots of similarities between the Jedi and bushido as well.

I dunno... the primary focus of Bushido is essentially a fatalism where you're supposed to accept, completely, that you are essentially a slave for your master. Everything about your life is under his control, to the degree that if he decides he would like you to kill yourself you go kill yourself; questioning or complaining about it is really faux-pas. It mostly just uses Buddhism in a sort of passive-fanatical way to convince adherents that their life is a superficial thing.

I would say the Jedi are more like the Yamabushi if you're looking at Japanese culture, or other assorted warrior-monk traditions. If you replace the idea of 'the force' with the idea of divine aid from God, the Templars could be called kind of Jedi as well...


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There's two builds for Vader that I could imagine.

One of them is urban barbarian mixed with an aether kineticist with the "kinetic knight" archetype.

2 levels in urban barbarian for uncanny dodge, a rage power of your choosing, and the archetype's crowd control and controlled rage. The controlled rage could be used to enhance AC, stacked with crowd control for a bit of extra AC when fighting multiple enemies, or else the rage could be used to enhance CON for more damage and HP

Aether kinetic knight could get force choke with the "suffocate" wild talent, throw and lift objects with telekinesis, and absolutely dominate with a kinetic blade, which you could consider to be a lightsaber. The real icing on the cake is that kinetic knight gets a samurai's resolve.

The other build would just be a mix of barbarian and psychic. There's a lot of psychic spells that have an immediate action casting time, such as a spell that immediately grants +8 to AC, as well as the spells shield, jump, and other things that could be considered force powers.

Personally, I think the kinetic knight build is perfect. Controlled rage, crowd control, whirlwind kinetic blade with blade rush, force choke, telekinesis, samurai resolve, and to top it all off, psychic sensitivity could allow you to predict the future with a linguistics check lol.


The necromancy is strong with this one.

Speaking of which, a Nosferatu could pull off a pretty killer Force-user (at-will telekinesis).

But, I think we all know what the answer really is: he's a Solarion. I mean, from what we know, the Solarion was basically made with the Jedi feel in mind, so I hope it's the best class choice.

Until August, though, yeah. Kinetic Knight is about right.

For other Sith, go expanded element (air) to pick up some lightning blasts.


hexcrafter magus X \ 1 level of monk or unarmed fighter .
spells= powers.
weapon master that use it's inner focus for spells and hexes.

also, there is a magus that can create a blade out of nothing...


Revengeancer wrote:

One of them is urban barbarian mixed with an aether kineticist with the "kinetic knight" archetype.

Came here to throw in my two cents and suggest a kinetic knight, left with a much better build idea than I started with.


pocsaclypse wrote:
Revengeancer wrote:

One of them is urban barbarian mixed with an aether kineticist with the "kinetic knight" archetype.

Came here to throw in my two cents and suggest a kinetic knight, left with a much better build idea than I started with.

Glad to be of service. I feel like sharing the Palpatine build I have. Cross-Blooded (lightning/dragon) sorcerer with the 1st level bloodline mutation, signature spell burning hands (becomes shocking hands), the trait gifted adept (burning hands), and the trait magical lineage (burning hands). Enjoy your 4d4 + 8 shocking hands at level 1... for all your second level spells prepare empowered shocking hands, and third level spells heightened empowered shocking hands... get a maximize rod.

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