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So, let me get this straight: stat bonuses that last longer than 24 hrs permanently improve everything related to them until the bonus goes away? Makes sense for permanent boosts (like raising int at lvl 4), but if I put on a headband of intellect +2, After a day I know ancient Thassalonian and calculus, until I take it off? That seems abuseable. Like, all you have to do to learn a new language is to take the headband off for a day, pop it back on for a day, and choose a new language.
That is why headbands of intellect have the skills already chosen -- you do not get to choose them. Look up the item for details.
The permanent vs. temporary distinction is primarily of importance to intelligence based casters who can prepare more spells if their intelligence is higher. The bonus needs to become permanent for them to prepare spells at the higher intelligence value.
Abuse alert:
Carry around multiple headbands, each keyed to different skills and languages.
Gonna go to a party in the dwarven city? Headband with Bluff or Diplomacy and dwarven language.
Traps in Kobold town? Headband with draconic and Disable Device.
Abuse? Hardly. You're much better off spending that gold on stuff that always helps you out.
Abuse? No, that's a 4000 gp for ONE language. I'd rather buy a 750gp wand of Comprehend Language.
Definitely, or if you're going to splurge, 2510 gp for a casting of Comprehend Languages followed by a Permanency.
Abuse alert:
Carry around multiple headbands, each keyed to different skills and languages.
Gonna go to a party in the dwarven city? Headband with Bluff or Diplomacy and dwarven language.
Traps in Kobold town? Headband with draconic and Disable Device.
I agree that it's not abuse, and it is handy to be able to gain different skills for different situation. You never have enough skill points. 4000gp is below the price of a "+7 to a skill" item (per pricing guidelines = 4900). So after a certain level it's cheaper to buy a headband than a skill item.
Headbands comes with a pre-determined skill. It gives 1 skill rank in that skill for each HD.
And are you really able to learn a new language each time you take it of and put it back on? That's up to the DM. I wouldn't allow it.
Where can i find this at? Had a player ask this a couple of weeks ago but we couldnt find the info.
So, let me get this straight: stat bonuses that last longer than 24 hrs permanently improve everything related to them until the bonus goes away? Makes sense for permanent boosts (like raising int at lvl 4), but if I put on a headband of intellect +2, After a day I know ancient Thassalonian and calculus, until I take it off? That seems abuseable. Like, all you have to do to learn a new language is to take the headband off for a day, pop it back on for a day, and choose a new language.
If you have issues with very common situations from the core book, maybe you should check the FAQ.
It was a discussion on this forum some time ago... I can't remember if it was simply a dev that chipped in on it or if it was something bigger. But bottom line is that it is the most sane solution to let the headband have predetermined language aswell as skill ranks (or no language if you prefer that).Where can i find this at? Had a player ask this a couple of weeks ago but we couldnt find the info.Headbands comes with a pre-determined skill. It gives 1 skill rank in that skill for each HD.
And are you really able to learn a new language each time you take it of and put it back on? That's up to the DM. I wouldn't allow it.
Relevant info:
JJ on skillpointsWe wanted it to also grant skill points, since that's what increased intelligence scores do. What we DIDN'T want was a situation where you get an item that grants an INT bonus and put it on your head and get to pick where those extra skill ranks go there and then...
So the solution was to "hard code" the skill ranks into each item.
Intelligence: If my Intelligence modifier increases, can I select another bonus language?
Yes. For example, if your Int is 13 and you reach level 4 and apply your ability score increase to Int, this increases your Int bonus from +1 to +2, which grants you another bonus language.
Technically, Int-enhancing items such as a headband of vast intelligence should grant a specific language (in the same way they do for skill ranks).
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This FAQ implies all Int boosting items behave this way, not just headbands. [I.e. that Crimson Sphere Ioun Stone.]
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Incidentally, linguistics really is kinda almost silly once you get past a certain point ...
Well, AFAIK, in real life there was at least 1 person that did know 40 or so languages and something like a hundred dialects.
This wikipedia page includes people that know one hundred languages and several people that know more than 20 languages.
Rare? Sure, but we are comparing them to 20th level characters with 20 levels in the linguistic skill. Those 20th level character will be unable to learn 100 languages.