Rinse? Dishwasher? Um, no. {applies ice pack directly to forehead}
You only rinse if it is a dishwasher for professional kitchens.
Dishwashers for use at home are made to remove encrusted food.
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Garden hose. Back yard. Narrow stream. Done.
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I rinse them pretty much every time. I even soak some of the funkier ones overnight.
Then again, I've got no roommate, spouse, or anyone else dealing with my dishes, and the machine gets run maybe twice a month. I hand wash pretty much every time I need a clean bowl or plate. Since I drink mostly water, I just reuse the same drinking vessel (an enameled camping cup) over and over, rinsing after I drink anything other than water (usually juice).
I did, once upon a time, have a roommate who did not understand how to use a dishwasher properly - he would put caked on cheesy, gunky stuff in the machine and, like yours, hope for the best. He even put one of my good, expensive knives in the machine instead of simply hand washing the blade. It still has big nicks in it, but I managed to take most of them out.
I feel your pain, brother villain.
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Rinsing is a waste of time. Just make sure the dishes aren't squeezed too firmly together for water to get in, and you will have a good result if the dishwasher is in good health. From time to time, something can be caked still, which just means you can hand-wash that or put it in the washer for a second try. I am with Dick on this.
I always rinse. It's not so much that I don't trust the dishwasher to do its job, but I live alone so it's not exactly every other day it's turned on. I just don't feel like having leftover food just sit there for several days and start smelling.
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However, Bill here is wrong too.
Clean your dishes first and then the dishwasher sanitizes them. Anything else is just wrongbadfun!
I rinse first. Though I am open minded enough to accept other people may do things differently then I do without being WRONG!!!.
There is no badwrongfun when doing dishes.
I rinse first. Though I am open minded enough to accept other people may do things differently then I do without being WRONG!!!.
There is no badwrongfun when doing dishes.
That is why you fail! (Emoticon to denote light hearted post)
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Someone in my life, whom I'll call Dick, feels that rinsing dishes before putting them in the dishwasher is a "waste," and that if he were to do this, he may as well just go whole-hog and hand-clean them. I feel differently. This is a matter of contention.
Any thoughts?
Why on earth would I wash my dishes before I wash my dishes?
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"Dear Paizo Forums, please help me optimize dishwashing."
I sometimes will rinse them off. But usually not. I went 8 years without a dishwasher. I'm living it up now.
I wash dishes by hand. I've never seen a dishwasher do as good of a job as I prefer. I know the modern ones do a very good job, but this stuff I eat with. I accept no less than perfect.
Thus, sometimes I end up washing dishes multiple times.
Back when I had a place of my own, sometimes I'd drop particularly messy dishes in the sink and let them soak before tossing them in the dishwasher. More often than not, though, they just went straight in.
Now that I'm living with my family again, it's about 50/50. My mom is pretty big on the "rinse first" thing. My dad couldn't care less. If they don't come out clean, we just leave them in there to run through again on the next load.
The main exception is if there's still solid food on the dish - I'll at least give it a rinse/scrape off before tossing it into the machine.
"Dear Paizo Forums, please help me optimize dishwashing."I've just put a couple of points in Dishwashing. The DCs are usually pretty low, so you don't need a lot. You can almost always Take 10 anyway.
The details I abstract away. No need for them.
Dishwashing gets a bonus from the Obsessive background trait. However, it comes with a penalty of all dishwashing tests taking twice as long.
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Big deal. It's not like you ever have to roll Dishwashing in combat.
Jeez, how many discussion grenades can people lob into the Off-Topic threads? This one is essentially nitro!
EDIT: BTW, I hand wash so I can safely dodge this third-rail type discussion! ;)
Jeez, how many discussion grenades can people lob into the Off-Topic threads? This one is essentially nitro!
EDIT: BTW, I hand wash so I can safely dodge this third-rail type discussion! ;)
Just make sure to run your hands through the dishwasher.
Most dishwashers will get clogged if you don't rinse, causing backed up drainage OR clogged sprayers. Both are bad.
Rinse solid food off, if you want to keep the dishwasher working.
I scrape my plate and then put in dishwasher. No rinsing. I am a huge believer in coarse dishpowder to liquid or tabs, but that had more to do with the age of my dishwasher than anything else.
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OK. This is a HUGE bone of irritation for me, since I live in drought-stricken California.
Everyone says, "Rinsing is a waste of water."
I have owned or operated 8 dishwashers in my lifetime, including FOUR bought since 2000, and one high-end Thermador that came with our stove.
Simple test: Buy some store-bought marinara sauce. (We use Trader Joe's Bolognese.) Pour some on a plate. Let it dry for 2 days. Put it in the dishwasher.
All 8 dishwashers have failed to clean the plate.
So everyone who says "don't rinse" must run their dishwashers every day or something. We CANNOT leave food on or it doesn't come off. Every. Single. Time.
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OK. This is a HUGE bone of irritation for me, since I live in drought-stricken California.
Drought-stricken? But you have an ocean. Don't you know the old saying?
"Water, water everywhere. So let's all have a drink."
OK. This is a HUGE bone of irritation for me, since I live in drought-stricken California.
Drought-stricken? But you have an ocean. Don't you know the old saying?
"Water, water everywhere. So let's all have a drink."
I will happily let you rinse your dishes in the bay. It's only a 15-minute walk from my house. Then eat off of them.
Then you will truly understand...
I don't have a dishwasher, just a live in girlfriend...
...sexistbut I used to rinse them in America if the meal was sticky like spaghetti. Dry food, like french fries and a burger, no.
Many modern dishwashers are actually designed to work best if there is some food, etc. on the plates when they are washed by the dishwasher. I didn't listen to the washer tech too closely but something about enzimes. Anyway, unless the food is totally caked on I put them in the washer without rinsing.
Someone should start a "Do you clean the house before the cleaning service comes?" thread next!
Someone should start a "Do you clean the house before the cleaning service comes?" thread next!
LOL. Yes. Yes I do.
As I tell her, "I don't dust, vacuum, mop floors, clean the stove, or scrub toilets. That's what I'm paying you to do. Don't put the kids' stuff away or do dishes, 'cause I'm happy doing that myself."
We get along well.
EDIT: But we do have a kind of fun competition. If I haven't folded all the laundry before she gets here, she runs off with it and folds it for me. I've told her again and again not to do it, and now she just laughs at me. Yes, I am commanding and demand respect from my employees.
OK. This is a HUGE bone of irritation for me, since I live in drought-stricken California.
Everyone says, "Rinsing is a waste of water."
Now this California is the place where everybody lives in a desert sorta but they all have pools in the back yard, right?
This thread is brought to you by anger in its purest, most spiteful form.
Those of you who wash your own dishes and have a dishwasher: do you rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher? Or do you put them in, caked and encrusted with whatever food happens to be on them, and hope for the best?
Someone in my life, whom I'll call Dick, feels that rinsing dishes before putting them in the dishwasher is a "waste," and that if he were to do this, he may as well just go whole-hog and hand-clean them. I feel differently. This is a matter of contention.
Any thoughts?
Do they leave them in the sink dirty too, so the ketchup dries to the plate, and the cheese turns to spackle? When I'm king of the world those people will be lined up and shot.
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No taking 10 on my dishes. They justifiably do count as immediate danger.
I always get all the major crud off, but I have a cruddy dishwasher, so...
