Souls At War |
Ugh. First person. Makes me nauseous.
As much as I didnt care for Shadowrun returns, at least it wasnt 1st person.
Why can I drive in 3rd person and yet not have a camera over my shoulder when I get out of the car? ugh...
They say they are looking for some fixes for those having troubles with FPP due to health issues.
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:They say they are looking for some fixes for those having troubles with FPP due to health issues.Ugh. First person. Makes me nauseous.
As much as I didnt care for Shadowrun returns, at least it wasnt 1st person.
Why can I drive in 3rd person and yet not have a camera over my shoulder when I get out of the car? ugh...
Third personn here we come!
Souls At War |
Souls At War wrote:Third personn here we come!Freehold DM wrote:They say they are looking for some fixes for those having troubles with FPP due to health issues.Ugh. First person. Makes me nauseous.
As much as I didnt care for Shadowrun returns, at least it wasnt 1st person.
Why can I drive in 3rd person and yet not have a camera over my shoulder when I get out of the car? ugh...
Not that fix, otherwise there wouldn't be any need to fix issues with First Person.
Souls At War |
Eh, SJWs will find every possible way to get offended for someone else.
Like that?
Also, "too vulgar".
Rysky |
This does hit close to members of the LGBT community
Yeah the transphobic joke on their twitter media account and half-baked apology killed what little interest I had in the game (the early review where they spent way too much time and detail describing a dead/dying woman's naked body was the start).
Souls At War |
Phillip Gastone wrote:This does hit close to members of the LGBT communityYeah the transphobic joke on their twitter media account and half-baked apology killed what little interest I had in the game (the early review where they spent way too much time and detail describing a dead/dying woman's naked body was the start).
I feel like I missed something.
Freehold DM |
CDProject seems to be drawing flack for using the Cyberpsychosis lore from the PnP game.
"Cyberware will eat your soul"
"So altering your body makes you less human?"
It gets uglier from there.
this came up in shadowrun too. They focused more on cyberware and less on vat grown stuff/body modification as bad. I know they have a fairly large LGBT community in the game too, maybe that's why things did not devolve.
Hama |
Phillip Gastone wrote:This does hit close to members of the LGBT communityYeah the transphobic joke on their twitter media account and half-baked apology killed what little interest I had in the game (the early review where they spent way too much time and detail describing a dead/dying woman's naked body was the start).
They are Polish, outrage culture does not exist there. People don't get offended over jokes. The worst thing they could have done was to apologize. They should have doubled down.
Ambrosia Slaad |
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Rysky wrote:They are Polish, outrage culture does not exist there. People don't get offended over jokes. The worst thing they could have done was to apologize. They should have doubled down.Phillip Gastone wrote:This does hit close to members of the LGBT communityYeah the transphobic joke on their twitter media account and half-baked apology killed what little interest I had in the game (the early review where they spent way too much time and detail describing a dead/dying woman's naked body was the start).
If you're going to make a joke about a sensitive subject, the important things to remember are 1) to punch up, not down and b) to actually make a funny joke. Being sh!tty to a frequently denigrated and attacked minority, then blowing it off as "a joke" with a non-apology, is just proudly letting your !sshole flag fly.
Phillip Gastone |
Well perhaps there are some things that can be done
1.Make a push for more control/options for character creation, face and body shapes, skin color(Bright green! This stuff is available in Cyberpunk), Hair. Saint's Row had ridiculous options(Although it was limited as well)
2.Voice sets allowing the player to pick which voice they want(Nolan North)
3.The big one would be how NPCs address your PC. Having two+ sets for everyone would no doubt drive up game size a lot, so have minor NPCs use Cyberpunk slang like 'Chombatta'
I have no computer know-how so I don't know how viable this would be.
Freehold DM |
Well perhaps there are some things that can be done
1.Make a push for more control/options for character creation, face and body shapes, skin color(Bright green! This stuff is available in Cyberpunk), Hair. Saint's Row had ridiculous options(Although it was limited as well)
2.Voice sets allowing the player to pick which voice they want(Nolan North)
3.The big one would be how NPCs address your PC. Having two+ sets for everyone would no doubt drive up game size a lot, so have minor NPCs use Cyberpunk slang like 'Chombatta'
I have no computer know-how so I don't know how viable this would be.
chombatta is from cyberpunk?!
MY REALITY IS BROKEN! I thought shadowrun had the drop on neo-afrique.
CapeCodRPGer |
Keanu Reeves reveals release date.
April 16, 2020.
Odd date, it's a Thursday. Most games come out on Tuesday or Friday.
Rednal |
Cyberpunk, as a genre, essentially addresses the idea of a bad, dystopian future, normally controlled by corporations with incredible amounts of power. Technology tends to be cheap, mass market goods are common, but people can rarely get out and to a better place. It's the kind of setting where anything that can be commercialized and exploited will be - not a good result.
With that particular picture, what it's saying in-universe is that such a figure is attractive and good, and therefore something a company would want to exploit for advertising. If anything, I think that poster is positive towards trans figures, even if we dislike the idea of a futuristic corporation exploiting that positivity for their personal gain. Or rather, I don't think we're supposed to agree with what the corporation is doing, but it makes sense in the context of the setting.
I really, genuinely do not see the controversial poster as transphobic. Quite the opposite. I actually like seeing that they could be treated as attractive and valuable within a setting, because they are people just like the rest of us.
Cori Marie |
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Here's the thing, about how I see it AS a trans person.
Rednal |
Do you feel what you've described as fetishization is fundamentally different from ways that an amoral corporation might exploit other traits or perceived attributes that could be used in advertising? That is, in the context of an advertisement in a dystopian future setting, does it seem unique and different from other advertisements in the way it's probably trying to "appeal" to people in that setting, or does it seem closer to an evil corporate conglomerate "this is how we'll objectify and commercialize that particular trait"?
Honest question. I genuinely don't have the personal experience to judge this for myself, so the only way I'll ever know how other people feel about it is to, well, ask.
Cori Marie |
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Rednal |
Rednal |
That said, because I don't have the same experiences as others, I know that things I may find to be mild, inoffensive, or even positive might not be taken that way by other people. So... I try to be cautious and understanding when discussing sensitive topics because I know my view is not the only view and people may have different opinions for very good, very personal reasons. And having a different point of view than I do certainly isn't wrong.
CapeCodRPGer |
Very accurate prediction of 2020 from the Cyberpunk 2020 rulebook published in 1988.
Wow, some people could see that happening.
Irontruth |
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Another aspect
It's a major problem whenever anyone not from a targeted group attempts to portray the experience or aspect of an experience of that targeted group. As a white male, I could write a story about how a black man suffers racism, but then I'm immediately going to run into all sorts of problems. For one, I'm just reiterating what is already going on. I'm not adding something new, or edgy. I'm just taking someone else's pain and putting it in my story. Most likely I won't represent it well, or fully. Or give it the nuance that makes it interesting for a black audience to experience (it'll just be more of the same of what they get in real life).
I'll see if I can give someone else's analogy justice.
If my house burns down, and I tell a joke about it. That can be funny (Humor in tragedy and all that). If I burn someone else's house down, and I tell a joke about it. That is just cruel.
Zandu the Devourer |
I'm very excited about this game. I absolutely love all things cyberpunk, and I look forward to playing it ASAP!
As for the representation within the game, I actually like that cyberpunk society is highly dystopic, and objectifying people seems like a plausible outcome of over-the-top body modifications, which can be reverted, that have become —in that setting— a commodity closely linked with unethical capitalism and consummerism.
Hama |
I'm seeing modders removing this restriction almost immediately
I mean I don't get why would one want to kill kids in a video game.