My monk was at an area of equal height with a flying wizard. He could easily make the jump to where the wizard was and he wants to grapple it. What rules should get applied to this, and what happens if the wizard is grappled or pinned. (He's using the fly spell, so no wings or anything). Can it even be done. Seems like a pretty heroic thing to do and I like it when PC's do stuff like this.
Secondly, (and I think the answer to this is apparent, just doesn't make sense to me) when a bad guy get's grappled and has a touch attack (Lich's touch). You just run it like it a normal touch attack scenario right? (With any modifiers of course). It just seems like a bad guy should be able to touch the guy grappling him, but in this case it's a monk and his touch AC is super high.
Thanks in advance.
Well, if he misses the Combat Maneuver, than the Monk starts falling, otherwise, I imagine it works as normal. As for pinning, it would simply be the Monk pinning his arms and legs so he can't do anything. He'd still be able to fly, however, as the Fly spell is controlled mentally.
As for the touch attack, the Lich need not even make an attack roll. If someone touches you while you have a touch attack active, then the spell goes off.
Holding the Charge: If you don't discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates. You can touch one friend as a standard action or up to six friends as a full-round action. Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge. In this case, you aren't considered armed and you provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for the attack. If your unarmed attack or natural weapon attack normally doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity, neither does this attack. If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges. If the attack misses, you are still holding the charge.
So if one were to cast Shocking Grasp, and hold the charge, and anyone came up and touched you, it would discharge on the person touching them. Make sure to mention to the Monk that the Necromancer isn't very cuddly.
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Even if Bruno grapple stupid lich, stupid lich must still make touch attack with hand at -2 on Bruno -- spell not delivered by body, spell delivered by hand (or natural weapon). Bruno dumb, but Bruno smart enough to grapple stupid flying lich's glowy hand away from self if lich try to bad touch Bruno.
Bruno concede it up to GM if the word "touch" in and of itself imply using hands or if stupid caster can deliver touch spell with supple hips or unwashed back of knee. If GM rule that must be delivered via hand, what if lich, knowing it cannot hit touch AC, cast spell then held charge? Then Tels' example potentially kick in.
Then, up to GM to decide how and where spell charge is held -- is spell energy in whole body or just in hand/mouth/limb that deliver attack touch attack? Simplest way to handle is ask where player (or decide where monster) hold charge and then if that charged part touch something (or gets touched), it go off.
Well, if he misses the Combat Maneuver, than the Monk starts falling, otherwise, I imagine it works as normal. As for pinning, it would simply be the Monk pinning his arms and legs so he can't do anything. He'd still be able to fly, however, as the Fly spell is controlled mentally.
As for the touch attack, the Lich need not even make an attack roll. If someone touches you while you have a touch attack active, then the spell goes off.
Holding the Charge: If you don't discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates. You can touch one friend as a standard action or up to six friends as a full-round action. Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge. In this case, you aren't considered armed and you provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for the attack. If your unarmed attack or natural weapon attack normally doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity, neither does this attack. If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges. If the attack misses, you are still holding the charge.So if one were to cast Shocking Grasp, and hold the charge, and anyone came up and touched you, it would discharge on the person touching them. Make sure to mention to the Monk that the Necromancer isn't very cuddly.
I disagree.
First of all, the rule doesn't say that the charge goes off if you're touched; only if you touch something else.
Second, a touch attack isn't the same as a touch spell; there's no indication that a monster's ability conveyed by a touch attack can be held as a charge like a touch spell can.
So, RAW, the lich still has to touch the monk as normal.
