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JPG version was updated but is still incomplete, and in fact the new version has even less than the old version. There are still 352 fronts, but now there are only 223 backs (compared to 305 before), for 575 total cards, meaning 3 fronts and 132 backs are missing.

I've just emailed customer service, so hopefully they will be on it soon, but just wanted to post the heads up here so that anyone else downloading it will be aware.

Unless that's coming from a Paizo employee or the author of the adventure (and I can tell you with 100% certainty that one of those two isn't true), I'd take that with a heavy dose of salt.

Fair enough, I did not connect your screen name to the name on the book, thanks for chiming in (and likewise to Jenny).

Well I am disappointed...why is starfinder getting tokens when pathfinder is still producing pawns? The "Murder in Metal City" tokens were not good at all. Hard to see and way too small. They sure did not feel "deluxe" at all, they felt cheap. Disappointing :(

Agreed, and I suspect it will likely affect sales as folks like myself who have a collection of SF1e pawns will likely opt not to bother starting a new collection of tokens whereas I would have almost certainly purchased additional pawns to add to my existing collection.

Also, I don't think I've missed anything yet, but we don't yet have listings for spells that are in the Scrap Rat Visionary's stat block, right?

- fabricate scrap
- junk armor
- junk shards
- junk grenade
- vigilant junkbot

I'm sure I can come up with something for them if I start playing this before those come out.

FYI, this was just answered on Reddit by someone from Foundry...

Those spells are a mistake. The Starfinder Anachronism module for Foundry has errata for this creature (and several others). Unfortunately I couldn't get the review of the PDF done in time to get it reported before printing, and I'll leave it to Paizo to state the full list of changes, but that creature had its spells removed and a couple abilities added to replace them

Edit: Now that I've got a moment I can post what the scrap rat has instead of spells.

Scrap Spray [two actions] The scrap rat visionary fires jagged junk shards at multiple enemies. All creatures in a 20-foot cone must attempt a DC 18 basic Reflex save save or take 3d6 piercing damage. On a critical failure, the creature is suppressed until the end of the scrap rat visionary's next turn.

and

Metal Sense [passive] A scrap rat visionary can sense metal objects within 30 feet as a precise sense, including items hidden by illusions such as invisibility.

So it looks like there is a product page up for a Starfinder Alien Core Token Box coming in January, though the forum thread there does not seem to be open for comments. Was there any announcement or discussion about this box here or is this a silent announcement of sorts?

It's a bit of a bummer that they are tokens rather than stand-up pawns like Pathfinder. I know that there were SF tokens in Murder in Metal City but was hoping it was a one time thing to make that particular set cost effective, but this seems to suggest tokens will be the new standard for Starfinder.

On the other hand, I realize that they had to sunset the SF1e pawns line a few years back, so it's not too surprising that they are not reopening it for 2nd edition, and on that note I guess it is good news at least we're getting something physical here for those of us planning to play SF2 on an actual (non-virtual) tabletop.

The description says that this is part of the Pathfinder Adventure Subcription, rather than the Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscription. Is Is that correct?

If so, are those two subscriptions being combined for Pathfinder as they apparently were for Starfinder? Or is this just landing in a different spot because it is a compilation rather than a brand new AP?

FYI, it looks like this subscription is overdue for a revised description, it still describes the 64 page format as being the default even though you guys have moved to longer hardcovers as the standard.

This is also part of the correction! As a Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber, you WILL receive the PDF!

Awesome, thanks Maya! I do get use out of the PDF battle cards, so am happy to hear this.

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but is there not a PDF associated with these? Or do we just need to wait until the street release date for it?

My order has just shipped and there is no PDF of this among my downloads, which was definitely a disappointment. I've inquired about it and am crossing my fingers.

The description says "including player and creature tokens" How is this different from the old pawns?

The tokens are double sided cardboard circles, roughly the size of a nickel. They don't stand up. I suppose they do carry the advantage of being easily transferable to VTTs, but as a tangible item to use during actual tabletop play, pawns definitely have them beat. I am not sure why they swapped it up on, perhaps just a cost saving measure, but I hope it does not become the standard.

FYI, the download for this flip-mat is JPG only, the PDF version is missing.

Nothing against these maps in particular, but it does seem odd to include them in the Lost Omens subscription rather than the Maps one.

I think it makes sense. The Maps subscription is all about battle maps (flip-mats and occasionally flip tiles). These are reference maps for the campaign setting, and are a companion piece to the Lost Omens: Shining Kingdoms book. I'd call the Lost Omens subscription the best place for it...and it matches the precedent set when the City of Lost Omens Poster Map Folio released back in 2019.

FYI, copies have started to ship, but unlike usual, instead of the PDF being available when your order ships, there is just a note that it will get added to your account on the 31st.

Also, not sure that it is anything to read into, but since folks love speculating, there are still plenty of references to Secrets of Magic as many of the items reference spells drawn from it.

I've got mine, looks great.

For those wondering, I did a quick flip through vs. the old version on dual monitors, and as expected, the updates are fairly minor tweaks of terminology and the like.

For example, some items have spells changed if the old spell was OGL, Ghast Stiletto is now Ghoul Stiletto and the save bonus is now good against curses in general rather than just paralysis. In the Alchemy Unleashed chapter, the Additive trait has been removed. In Trappings of Power, the references to ability scores have been swapped out for attribute bonuses. Though a few items have shifted in page placement because of a renaming, as far as I can tell there were no new items added or old items removed entirely. In short, it's pretty much the same level of changes as you would expect if you've been paying attention.

Paizo folks - for your errata files, heads up that the the Wyrm's Wingspan (the new name for the Wyrm on the Wing tattoo) still references the old name in the subheadings for the higher level variants.

Davelozzi wrote:

Hopefully, Shining Kingdoms is your big chance to get this name canonized.

Won't be my chance, since that's not a book I'm working on.

I’ve received my copy of Lost Omens: Shining Kingdoms and Xoanthurund did indeed get canonized, so you must have respect around the Paizo offices after all.

Just wanted to jump in here with the good and the bad.

THE GOOD
The physical battle cards in this set are excellent. I really appreciate that the stat blocks have a white background and even the image side has a light and plain enough background for the monster image to stand out when I show it to my players. Many of the past battle card sets had major issues here, for example the Starfinder Alien Archive cards which were way too dark to be easily read at the table (or for GM notes with dry erase markers), or the Abomination Vaults cards which had way too much background noise behind the images for the players to actually see what I was trying to show them effectively. So, it was great to see that these new cards have neither problem! I really hope that future battle cards continue with this design that favors usability.

Also, the JPGs are now working for me now, so thanks for the fix there.

THE BAD
I have to agree with neojejune and Orc Nouveau about the PDFs though. The page order in these files makes this product extremely challenging to use. @Maya, I understand that you say that they are formatted as intended, but I encourage you to pass the feedback back up the chain here in the hopes that decision can be re-evaluated. If you are going to sell a PDF product, it should be formatted to be user friendly, and this definitely is not. It really doesn't seem like it should be too much to ask for someone to put the pages in the proper order alternating between the front and back of each card.

Hopefully, Shining Kingdoms is your big chance to get this name canonized.

For anyone still looking for more pics of these, there are some up on the WizKids site...

https://shop.wizkids.com/products/pathfinder-book-tabs-gm-core

For anyone still looking for more pics of these, there are some up on the WizKids site...

https://shop.wizkids.com/products/pathfinder-book-tabs-player-core

I mentioned this in the thread about pawn art but for anyone not following that thread, this seems like news on its own account...

NPC Core Battle Cards are confirmed in the new Paizo 2025 Catalog that just arrived in my latest subscription shipment, for a September 2025 release.

ISBN PZO10011-MC
978-1-64078-707-0
$54.99

NPC Core Battle Cards are confirmed in the new Paizo 2025 Catalog that just arrived in my latest subscription shipment.

Mythraine wrote:

Can anyone at Paizo confirm that the spine is going to be white with the same green font as the core books?

I’ve always loved how beyond the core in premaster the spines were all cool and themed to the book. But it looks like I may be in the minority.

I too love the unique covers beyond the Core books.

I was surprised when War of Immortals was colored the same as the Cores but Howl of the Wild was not.

Makes organization a little tricky.

Yep, it's almost like they don't realize what an anal lot we RPGers can be.

I just received my PDF of the new Monster Core Battle Cards, and while the cards look good and I am excited to have the updated stats, I was disappointed to see that rather than have the pages alternate the front and the back of each card in order like the PDF of the Besiary Batttle Cards do, it’s just a whole bunch of front sides, followed by a whole chunk of back sides, then rinse and repeat for the next chunk of the alphabet. It’s not very user friendly. Any chance of updating the file so they’re in order?

I know this is an old thread, and I am not sure what pawn sets you were talking about, but if you are talking about any of the Bestiaries, Monster Core, the battle cards have the art. Same with the NPC Battle Cards from the (pre-remaster) GameMastery Guide, and I am guessing/hoping that there will be a set forthcoming for NPC Core Battle Cards eventually.

Though on the other hand, the Lost Omens: Shining Kingdoms book already promises "a gorgeous fold-out poster map to serve as a centerpiece to any Shining Kingdoms campaign", so it will be interesting to see if there is a difference. I bet the one that comes with the book is more of a traditional style map like the ones in LO:WG and LO:TXWG and the regional map in the map archive is one of those more stylized style maps like a character might find in game (and like many of the 1e map folios included).

From reading the description, the seventh map is of the Shining Kingdoms region itself, all six nations together.

Oh yeah, you're right, I missed that. A big regional map makes tons of sense and I am all for it, cool.

Ok, this looks super cool. I hope we get more map sets like these, and please let there be labels for major (non-spoilery) sites so that they can be useful.

Description says 7 poster maps but then lists only 6. Please let # 7 be Cassomir with a new map. As mentioned in another thread, this city is an excellent home base but the 1e map looks like a way smaller town.

Oh no, sorry to hear this, and sympathies to his family! :(

I read Plague of Shadows and Walker from the Crypt just a few months back and would recommend them. I'll pick up Stalking the Beast now.

The book also includes a bestiary of monsters inhabiting the region and a gorgeous fold-out poster map to serve as a centerpiece to any Shining Kingdoms campaign

Oooh, just noticed this bit about the poster map...great news, it was a real bummer to not get one in either Mwangi Expanse or Impossible Lands.

Awesome, as a huge fan of Taldor and Galt in particular, I am psyched for this. Any chance we will see a new map for Cassomir? I'm setting my campaign there and love the city as a setting but I feel like the map from 1e's Cities of Golarion looks like a small town of a couple thousand at best.

I see that the downloads for this product were updated again this week. Does anyone know what changed? I've just downloaded the PDF but haven't had a chance to review.

I tried to download the updated JPGs too, but they don't seem to be personalizing, not sure if it is just a me thing?

I just got my download on this, and FYI, the map is showing the secret doors (I'm assuming the separate file should be a player friendly version for printing out).

Thank you, Paizo, for fixing this PDF!
!

Can a mod delete my post up above. Forgot to use spoiler tag and it’s too late for me to delete.

I wouldn’t sweat it too hard, it’s a thread specifically for GMs with “BEWARE THE SPOILERS” right in the subject line. If any players are reading this, it’s on them, not you.

On page 11, in te description for area A2, the text states that a trap “triggers the first time a PC steps on one of the marked squares”, but on the map, it does not appear that any squares are marked as far as I can tell. Is there any clarification available?

Keep the cardboard sprues and slide them into document protectors with the pawns in their spaces. You can slide the panel out of the plastic to pull out the pawns you need and the rest stay nice and secure. The Monster Core box will likely need a 2 inch binder to handle all of them.

I don’t even think there is any need for a binder, I just pop them right back into the cardboard sleeve and keep them right in the box that they came in. Works great!

Request for individual pages option on the PDF thirded!
Screen looks great overall though.

Populations numbers are super useful to me in understanding a settlement/nation. I understand they are not always realistic to everyone, but it's great to have a good place to start. Lost Omens World Guide at least had them for the capitals of each country.

That said, if anyone is looking for population figures for the settlements of Tian Xia, they are available Dragon Empires Gazetteer (and the populations for capitals only in the Dragon Empires Primer), both for PF1 (even if those sources are otherwise not up to the standards of the new book).

320 pages is BEEFY! Excited to see all this.

Yeah, that’s a huge upgrade from the 128 pages we have now in Gods & Magic. Definitely makes this book way more intriguing.

So I notice that the product description promises a poster map, but the PDF I received yesterday does not appear to have one. Did it just get missed on the digital version by mistake, or is there not a poster map after all? It’s be a total bummer if so.

I love this box so I'm looking forward to digging into this updated version and seeing all these changes.

One weird thing that I noticed on a quick skim through the PDF files though is that the ORC/remastered pawns have a triple border (blue/red/green) now that overlaps the illustrations and looks fairly awkward compared to the single (red) border on the OGL pawns. Can't tell if this is tech issue or a purposeful change but it definitely looks better with the single border.

Nice work, Raven Black, sounds like a very solid lead, thanks!

Anyone here read Plague of Shadows and have anything to add (or know if it’s worth a read)?

One of my players is considering a fetchling character in my upcoming campaign, which I plan to set somewhere in the southeastern Five King Mountains Andoran/Galt/Taldor border regions. I was trying to figure out how fetchlings might fit in there and notice that Lost Omens: Ancestry Guide has a few paragraphs on the Rikmirit fetchlings in that exact area that apparently were drawn there from the Shadow Plane by an ancient “Surgeon’s Spire”…but there’s not much beyond that at all. It seems like the kind of detail that is bound to be based on something, but I can not find any others reference to these Rikmirit fetchlings in any other sources or on the wiki.

Does this ring a bell with any who might where I can dig in any deeper on this lore?

Ok, just got my download and this looks like a pretty good set! What do we think is what here, obviously the first temple is for the Prismatic Ray and the last one is for Asmodeus. I figure the second one (seaside shrine) is Gozreh, but what's the third one (fiery skull shaped)? I feel like I should easily have this but it's not coming to me.

Thanks James, I really appreciate the hearing your perspective on the change, and won’t derail the thread any further. And ironically, as a big fan of Galt, I now kind of wish you had done that one as a 128 pager.

The return of pawns is welcome indeed!

It is. We'll have more to say about the stand-alone adventure line later, once we have a better place to talk about it that's not just a store page, but starting with "Prey For Death" all standalone adventures for Pathfinder will be hardcovers and a minimum of 128 pages long. We're hoping to standardize this to 2 hardcover adventures a year.

I look forward to hearing more about that when the time is right, as I have to admit that I’m less than excited to hear that the standalone line will be going to longer format adventures. More isn’t always better, I was actually just thinking (before I read this), that I wish you guys went back to publishing 32 page adventures. What I’m looking for in standalone is something reasonably short that I can slip into my own campaign, whereas a 128 page adventure feels more like a campaign of its own, which is what I thought the AP line already covered; especially with the recent move to 3 book APs, it seems like the two adventure lines are moving closer together instead of each filling their own different niche.

That said, I trust you guys to put out great product, and regardless of my personal preferences for the line in general, Prey for Death does sound like a very cool adventure!

I would let them get the invite but try to get them to focus on investigation for the sake of knowing what they are going up against.

I concur, it certainly seems to me that a creature that has this level of power and influence over a whole nation for decades should definitely have been given a proper name.