The Impossible wait?


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The wait for whatever book the impossible play test classes is in, is a tough one. This has been the first gencon since pf2e launched that we haven't gotten the scoop for the next gencon rulebook. It's also looking like the longest wait between play test and release unless there's a very unexpected surprise around the corner (which there won't be).

I don't want to get too much into speculation or doom and gloom, but does have we heard anything about why this might be happening? Is the rulebook release schedule slowing down, have recent happenings in the states delayed product, or is it turnover? I understand all of those reasons, but it would be nice to get some sort of update on things.

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I thought they maybe didn't want it to overshadow SF2's launch but...not even an announcement on the title...yeah, very confusing and almost concerning.


I recall reading somewhere that Paizo was transitioning their major announcements to the monthly website updates. However, those haven’t been very consistent and so now as a consumer I don’t have the conventions to anticipate for the announcements, even though I do not attend those. Additionally, with the lack of major bulletins on the blogs/website I’m starting to lose interest in a game that I’ve been playing for a while but know less and less about what products are coming as each month passes.

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Gencon was all about SF2. For once PF2 took a backseat. All will happen in due time.


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This is normally when the playtest for those classes would be wrapping up. SF2 forced a very early playtest, so while it's been a while since we got any news, we aren't actually too behind on news- mainly the book name.


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I was actually just about to post something about this. I'm not surprised we don't have a release date yet but i am a bit surprised we don't even have a title. Unlike "battlecry" i kind of doubt "impossible" is what the final rulebook will be called


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If I had to hazard a guess, I think they've implemented a new book strategy, which discourages talking about the next big event when the latest big event just started.

War of Immortals kicked off the Godsrain, and battlecry! kicked off the Hellfire Crisis. So these last two class books coincided with major events. The Pathfinder setting has been alluding to Nex's return, so it sounds like the Impossible book is meant to coincide with Nex's return, and likely a war between the nations of Geb and Nex reigniting late next year, but Paizo probably does not want to talk about this event while they barely started going into detail on the Hellfire Crisis.

We've sort of entered a new era last year where there is plot to coincide with these class books, rather than them simply being setting-agnostic add-ons to the system, that might occasionally mention lore. The new class book format makes it harder to talk about the book without talking about next year's plot for Pathfinder.


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I think the much more Impossible wait is the much vaunted, unclearly timed and likely highly-structural change to the Paizo website…


QuidEst wrote:
This is normally when the playtest for those classes would be wrapping up. SF2 forced a very early playtest, so while it's been a while since we got any news, we aren't actually too behind on news- mainly the book name.

Eh, not that early. Six months was the general cadence outside the long gap between DA/RoE/WoI which was obviously fueled by the remaster.


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moosher12 wrote:

If I had to hazard a guess, I think they've implemented a new book strategy, which discourages talking about the next big event when the latest big event just started.

War of Immortals kicked off the Godsrain, and battlecry! kicked off the Hellfire Crisis. So these last two class books coincided with major events. The Pathfinder setting has been alluding to Nex's return, so it sounds like the Impossible book is meant to coincide with Nex's return, and likely a war between the nations of Geb and Nex reigniting late next year, but Paizo probably does not want to talk about this event while they barely started going into detail on the Hellfire Crisis.

We've sort of entered a new era last year where there is plot to coincide with these class books, rather than them simply being setting-agnostic add-ons to the system, that might occasionally mention lore. The new class book format makes it harder to talk about the book without talking about next year's plot for Pathfinder.

That's a very interesting theory and I would not be surprised if it was the case. I hugely look forward to new classes and I'm not especially patient, so I'm not sure if I agree with stretching out the wait between play test and release, but in the grand scheme it's not a big deal. I was hoping the impossible classes would be out a year after their play test, so around January, but that window has closed. Then hoping to hear more about it at gencon; that didn't happen either. Hopes dashed again when nothing was mentioned in the mid August keynote. I think I look forward to this stuff too much!


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moosher12 wrote:


War of Immortals kicked off the Godsrain, and battlecry! kicked off the Hellfire Crisis.

Man they've done a much worse job promoting the hellfire crisis I think this is the first I've heard anyone mention it.

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Squiggit wrote:
moosher12 wrote:


War of Immortals kicked off the Godsrain, and battlecry! kicked off the Hellfire Crisis.
Man they've done a much worse job promoting the hellfire crisis I think this is the first I've heard anyone mention it.

Is that the new war with Cheliax and Andoran?

I'm not super abreast of upcoming APs.
I just know that there's no shot we get to play it out from Cheliax's side.


Ectar wrote:
Is that the new war with Cheliax and Andoran?

Yes it is.


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Yeah, it's getting a Rulebook, a Lost Omens book, two Adventure Paths (One 1-10 level, another 11-20), a novel, and some PF Society stuff (assuming no extra stuff which hasn't already been announced taking place during the event, which is I guess possible); plus the Shining Kingdoms book obviously having been released to help set up for the event. Quite a fair sized thing.


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Gaulin wrote:
moosher12 wrote:

If I had to hazard a guess, I think they've implemented a new book strategy, which discourages talking about the next big event when the latest big event just started.

War of Immortals kicked off the Godsrain, and battlecry! kicked off the Hellfire Crisis. So these last two class books coincided with major events. The Pathfinder setting has been alluding to Nex's return, so it sounds like the Impossible book is meant to coincide with Nex's return, and likely a war between the nations of Geb and Nex reigniting late next year, but Paizo probably does not want to talk about this event while they barely started going into detail on the Hellfire Crisis.

We've sort of entered a new era last year where there is plot to coincide with these class books, rather than them simply being setting-agnostic add-ons to the system, that might occasionally mention lore. The new class book format makes it harder to talk about the book without talking about next year's plot for Pathfinder.

That's a very interesting theory and I would not be surprised if it was the case. I hugely look forward to new classes and I'm not especially patient, so I'm not sure if I agree with stretching out the wait between play test and release, but in the grand scheme it's not a big deal. I was hoping the impossible classes would be out a year after their play test, so around January, but that window has closed. Then hoping to hear more about it at gencon; that didn't happen either. Hopes dashed again when nothing was mentioned in the mid August keynote. I think I look forward to this stuff too much!

I feel the same. Im so excited for this announcement that im going crazy with the wait.

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