Cormyr 2.0 with a Dash of the Dales and Great Desert Interest Check.


Recruitment

Grand Lodge

Hi all, just cracked open my books and am looking to start a 2e DnD Campaign based in Cormyr. Might have a bit of Dales and Anauroch, looking at Basic DnD Races and Classes with the Splatbooks allowed. I'll have a list hopefully, of Books I am using. Or at least a website to reference,

I hope to build an intriguing story around the party and Cormyr specifically.


Hey Critzible, this sounds intriguing - what is the plan, a trip through iconic FR modules, or more of a Sandbox endeavor?

And if I may inquire - why 2e and not AD&D or OSRIC? :)

Grand Lodge

Albion, The Eye wrote:

Hey Critzible, this sounds intriguing - what is the plan, a trip through iconic FR modules, or more of a Sandbox endeavor?

And if I may inquire - why 2e and not AD&D or OSRIC? :)

Semi SandBoxy. I am more comfortable with 2e, it's the system I started on. I can allow 1e Classes like Monk, Cavalier, etc. Though still gonna go with 2e.

Gonna mix some pregens with other events. As well as converted systems.


I also kinda started with 2e back in the day - after a short time with BECMI.

My question was mostly curiosity - to be honest I am perfectly fine with 2e Core rules only (no alternative rules like proficiencies, no splatbooks, etc). I feel like some of the added stuff (like the OP kits) brought on imbalance, unnecessary complexity, etc.

Pregens is a great idea.

Grand Lodge

Yeah, I am hoping to limit some stuff as I know the HUGE library of 2e products. Honestly, I'd love to use Hackmaster 4e, but once more not super proficient in running the game.


Been wanting to try Hackmaster for a long time - why not give it a go? Grab some pregens and some premade module and go to town :D

Grand Lodge

I have all of Hackmaster Digitally. Just need to get it on my new computer

Grand Lodge

Interested. The Forgotten Realms was my favorite setting, especially Cormyr & The Dalelands. Sembia, too.
As for 2e, do you mean the PF 2e rules? AD&D 2e? I've been playing D&D since 1980 so I'm familiar with the rules, including Pathfinder.


Says 2e DnD in the original post…So I think that means ADnD, 2nd Edition.

Grand Lodge

Yeah 2e DnD

Grand Lodge

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:
Says 2e DnD in the original post…So I think that means ADnD, 2nd Edition.

Ok. Cool. Thanks.


Damn, this would take me back to playing in the early/mid-90s! Definitely consider me interested! I would love to dig out my old brown softcover class and race handbooks.

Grand Lodge

Working on limits and what not


Shout out to For Gold and Glory - they did a pretty good job with AD&D2e, in my opinion.

Dark Archive

I could use all those books I have had sitting on my shelf for 25+ years. I would be interested.

Grand Lodge

I am sticking to the Core Rule Book Races

Classes

Warrior: Fighter, Cavalier, Paladin, Ranger, Harper

Priest, Cleric, Druid ,Crusader, Mystic, Monk, Specialty Priests

Magic-User: Mage, Specialist Mage, Elementalist, Dimensionalist, Force Mage, Mentalist, Shadow Mage, Alchemist, Artificer, Geometer, Song Mage, Wild Mage, Spellsinger

Thief: Thief, Bard, Ninja, Trader, Shadowwalker, Monk(Alt)

Clerics, Crusaders, Druids, Mystics, and Monks are given special powers and can use a Favored weapon.

Also, all classes can use a dagger and a knife.

I will probably do all stats are at 10, and you roll 1d8 down the board. Plus will do Comeliness.

Dark Archive

Will you allow the Complete Books, I still have several of those like the Bard, Dwarf, Fighter and Thief books.

Will you allow the Wizard Spell Compendiums?

Grand Lodge

Yes I have to limit the Kits, and No Subraces.

Compendium of spells yes but rarity of spells will remain. If its non Faerun it won't be considered a viable spell.


Is this the system you are using?

I recognize some of the things in your list but those classes, I don't know where you got them from. I started playing with the handbook from the above link and I'm familiar with the kit books but I don't recall any of those classes not in the PHB.

Grand Lodge

Cavalier is in the Dragonlance, Trader is Dark Sun, Assassin is Grey Hawk, Monk(Alt) is Grey Hawk, Others are Tome of Magic and Skills and Powers, Spells and Magic,

Harper,Spellsinger,Shadwowalker is the Realms-specific splat books

have a website with a lot of this on it. So you don't have to pour through your library

Grand Lodge

A suggestion for rolling stats:
2d6 and add 6.

Grand Lodge

roll4initiative wrote:

A suggestion for rolling stats:

2d6 and add 6.

That seems similar to 8 plus a d10

Grand Lodge

stat: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 5) + 6 = 16
stat: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (6, 4) + 6 = 16
stat: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 5) + 6 = 16
stat: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (3, 4) + 6 = 13
stat: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 2) + 6 = 13
stat: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (4, 3) + 6 = 13

Stat: 10 + 1d8 ⇒ 10 + (4) = 14
Stat: 10 + 1d8 ⇒ 10 + (2) = 12
Stat: 10 + 1d8 ⇒ 10 + (7) = 17
Stat: 10 + 1d8 ⇒ 10 + (3) = 13
Stat: 10 + 1d8 ⇒ 10 + (8) = 18
Stat: 10 + 1d8 ⇒ 10 + (7) = 17

stat: 8 + 1d10 ⇒ 8 + (5) = 13
stat: 8 + 1d10 ⇒ 8 + (5) = 13
stat: 8 + 1d10 ⇒ 8 + (6) = 14
stat: 8 + 1d10 ⇒ 8 + (9) = 17
stat: 8 + 1d10 ⇒ 8 + (8) = 16
stat: 8 + 1d10 ⇒ 8 + (10) = 18


Critzible wrote:

Cavalier is in the Dragonlance, Trader is Dark Sun, Assassin is Grey Hawk, Monk(Alt) is Grey Hawk, Others are Tome of Magic and Skills and Powers, Spells and Magic,

Harper,Spellsinger,Shadwowalker is the Realms-specific splat books

have a website with a lot of this on it. So you don't have to pour through your library

Thanks for the information about the classes. I always want to play my very first RPG character and Invoker.

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I will probably do all stats are at 10, and you roll 1d8 down the board. Plus will do Comeliness.

If you are doing stats rolled in order, it would be best I think to wait till I have stats to see what I would want to play.

BTW: 2d6 average roll 7 + 6 average stat 13
1d8 average roll 4.5 + 10 average stat 14.5
1d10 average roll 5.5 + 8 average stat 13.5

Personally I'd take your 1d8+10 but it's really all up to the dice roller.


2d6 gives the greatest random range, otherwise just use the point system.

Grand Lodge

CucumberTree wrote:
2d6 gives the greatest random range, otherwise just use the point system.

Except you can't point buy your way into Paladin, and your stats stay static longer.

1d8 seems the best for best possible class

Also seventh stat of Comeliness, for Appearance

Grand Lodge

Personally, I think it would be fun rolling stats in order and playing whatever class the dice rolls turn up to be. I've been playing for so long, I'm comfortable playing any race & class. I really like the 2d6+6 due to the chance of getting an 8 or 9. The PCs aren't superheroes, imo.

I, myself, would stick with PHB classes & races If i get the chance to play in your game.

Just my 2 cp.

Funny what you rolled for the 2d6+6. Three 10s and three 7s. Lol.

Another suggestion: maybe go with the official AD&D Living Campaign rules for character creation.


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I will simply echo most of roll4initiative's words here :)

For me - definitely stick with PHB Classes and Races only. No optional rules (no proficiencies, etc), and no 'Completes' kits or anything. That would be my preference. I am not against kits 'per se', but there are some who are stronger than others. I prefer when they are introduced already as part of the game - 'After your many adventures in the High Seas, you have now unlocked the Buccaneer kit for Rogues' or... 'After many endeavours in the arenas, you have now unlocked the Gladiator kit for Fighters' - stuff like that.

I do really like the randomness of die rolls to define ability scores and class, but I am always a bit on the fence about it when it comes to 2e, because 2e is very unforgiving with 'middle of the road' ability scores.

For example, there is a huge difference between a Fighter with Str 15, and another with 18/76. So perhaps being able to adjust up and down somehow might be interesting.

Grand Lodge

Yeah I may implement something to help increase them via leveling. Which is also making me lean more towards Hackmaster 4e again.


Do it!

I never played Hackmaster - wonder if there are any pregens out there.

Grand Lodge

Characters Maybe, though it is rules-intensive as it puts in all the 1e and 2e rules into one rule set.

Grand Lodge

The more I think about it I may do Hackmaster 4e.

Anyone interested in Hackmaster 4e


Yessir.

Grand Lodge

Well then, if that's the case, then I'll changethe end of this and change it to Hackmaster

Though Hackmaster 4e has no pre-generated characters


I am sure we can find some pregens around the www ;)
And I am only suggesting it because I feel like pregens are a good way to get right into the action and learn a new system.
Maybe just do a prequel one shot kind of thing, so people can test drive it, see if they like it?
No strings attached so on and so forth.

Grand Lodge

Gotcha. Though it's pretty crunchy with LOTS of options.

Grand Lodge

[urlhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs6lrmg?Hackmaster-4e-Trails-and-Errors] Hackmaster 4e Thread[/url]

If you are all interested.

Grand Lodge

Albion, The Eye wrote:

I am sure we can find some pregens around the www ;)

And I am only suggesting it because I feel like pregens are a good way to get right into the action and learn a new system.
Maybe just do a prequel one shot kind of thing, so people can test drive it, see if they like it?
No strings attached so on and so forth.

I haven't found any so far.


Critzible wrote:

Hackmaster 4e Thread

If you are all interested.

Link’t for you.

Grand Lodge

ObsessiveCompulsiveWolf wrote:
Critzible wrote:

Hackmaster 4e Thread

If you are all interested.

Link’t for you.

Thanks Thought I had, lol

Grand Lodge

I have never played Hackmaster. Since I am unfamiliar with it I will drop out.

Have fun, y'all!

Grand Lodge

roll4initiative wrote:

I have never played Hackmaster. Since I am unfamiliar with it I will drop out.

Have fun, y'all!

Its basically 1e and 2e combined with a bit extra


I was interested in the 2E. I am not interested in Hackmaster, at this time. Good luck with it and have fun.

Grand Lodge

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Well if My hackmaster plans do not work out I will return to my 2e idea

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