Necromancer Cantrips


Necromancer Class Discussion


After looking through the class and play testing it for a few days, the feat quickened casting really stood out. not because of any mechanical benefits, but for the fact that the feat includes cantrips. And at the moment the necromancer only has one cantrip(Create Thrall) which does not benefit from this feat.

So my question is what theme or style of cantrip would you like to see implemented as a necromancer class specific cantrip?


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Form Furniture would be handy. Being able to create a simple chair, stool, table, etc. from undead would be delightfully melodramatic and a handy control spell that could create a fragile square of difficult terrain. A lot of roleplay potential while being more useful than Conjure Instrument.


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Aren't all the spells cast by the class necromancer spells, as long as it is from the class and not an archetype or ancestry? So, you any cantrip works.


Hamitup wrote:
Aren't all the spells cast by the class necromancer spells, as long as it is from the class and not an archetype or ancestry? So, you any cantrip works.

The answer is yes


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Agonarchy wrote:
Form Furniture would be handy. Being able to create a simple chair, stool, table, etc. from undead would be delightfully melodramatic and a handy control spell that could create a fragile square of difficult terrain. A lot of roleplay potential while being more useful than Conjure Instrument.

Can't you already do this with your thralls? Seems like it would be a simple matter to use a thrall as a step, stair, coat hanger, or the like.


Ravingdork wrote:
Agonarchy wrote:
Form Furniture would be handy. Being able to create a simple chair, stool, table, etc. from undead would be delightfully melodramatic and a handy control spell that could create a fragile square of difficult terrain. A lot of roleplay potential while being more useful than Conjure Instrument.
Can't you already do this with your thralls? Seems like it would be a simple matter to use a thrall as a step, stair, coat hanger, or the like.

Subject to more GM interpretation and can't be done in an occupied square (no throne rising up beneath you), and slightly different mechanical opportunities. I'm thinking something closer to a weak Igneogenisis.


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Perhaps in non-combat circumstances, there could be a rider that allows the Necromancer to be able to roughly reproduce that which a Phantasmal Minion can preform, but such manipulations being limited to only occurring withing spaces where the necromancer has current Thralls as the concentrates on the desired result/work. (effectively giving them access to a single such minion, but its effects/actions limited to only contagious spaces occupied by thralls.)

It might be interesting to allow them to effectively behave as a Floating disk as well, basically call thralls into existence and the thralls just pass the object/objects over themselves to the next thrall. Meaning it can't move faster than the speed you create new thralls.

It could be argued that in combat the Thralls are too confused/instinct controlled to preform more discrete tasks such as this.

Your concept of a throne forming under someone is certainly very thematic and so would be cool if there were a way to make it viable. I guess in theory if thralls were on either side of the necromancer they could lean in and form a seat under them perhaps.

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