How do Andoran Elections work


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Hello,

So I am wondering how do Andoran Elections work and do councilor areas get decided. From the 1e book on Andoran government a single term is five years and they are in Almas twice a year once on the 15 Erastus and 15 Abadius.

But how are the elections run? do they use paper ballots, do they raise hands or speak aloud which candidate they support. Are they secret votes? Who is allowed to vote?

How do the various churches interact with elections? are elections held at temples such as Abadar, Erastil or Cayden Ceillien?

There seems to be some factions, at least in Augustana like the Forester's Endowment but I don't know if they are local to Augustana or if national. The forester's Endowment seems like a natural fit for those in the Verduran forest.

another thing is how are the Constituencies decided upon? as an example, according to the 1e Andoran Book Bellis has 2 councilors, but does that mean that the town votes for 2 members or that they represent different constituencies and that they stay mostly in Bellis?

So curious if anyone has any answers or thoughts here?


Anyone have any thoughts or ideas here? :)


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I'd expect it to resemble the American system, because that's the clearest real-world analogue. Specific churches might serve as voting sites, and so might town halls. Magic will probably play a role; spells to determine if a ballot has been altered, or maybe divinations to make sure nobody in line is charmed or not who they appear to be.

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Evan Tarlton wrote:
I'd expect it to resemble the American system, because that's the clearest real-world analogue.

No it isn't. Among other things, the People's Council has seats for guilds in addition to geographic disricts, and the central government administers elections according to a single electoral law rather than federal bodies each administering their own elections, because Andoran is a centralized republic with delegated powers to localities, and not a federation of states. For analogues, look to the French Third or Fourth Republics, or the postwar Italian Republic (though both apportion[ed] seats solely to localities).

As for Bellis, you're looking at a multi-member district, probably with SNTV such that the two candidates with the most votes are each sent to the People's Council.


So what I decided on is that the each town is a riding, with the main one being Bellis sort of as a de facto capital of the Shire.

still not sure how the elections themselves work. Would it be similar to a medieval / renaissance swiss Landsgemeinde? or something else? I think making them similar to the Landsgemeinde might fit in with the democracy and give players something to do as they are from what I understand massive town halls held outdoor, a form of direct democracy.

I didn't know about the guilds. How many guilds are there in Andoran and what guilds aside from the Lumber consortium might play a role in the Verduran forest?

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During elections, Government workers called Talliers are dispatched to all the local townships and multiple in any large city. Stalls are set up with a tallier on one side, behind a thick curtain, and a switch system. The individual Goes into the booth in privacy, and flips switches indicated for their chosen candidates/laws. The Tallier watches those results from the other side, noting or Tallying, the votes. a Tallier may not discuss any results with anyone until they deliver them to Their central authority.

Because Andoran takes it's democratic status so seriously, Talliers are both protected by and serve under threat of death. Anyone who messes with them, can be put to death, as they have stolen the voices of unknown fellow Andoran Citzens. But, a Tallier who is found to have been fraudulent is sentence to death under the same logic.

There are also the Mounted talliers who ride along roads far from towns and cities looking for those who couldn't vote.

The more urbanized areas where literacy is more guaranteed have paper ballots, but it's still over seen by the talliers.


Zoken44 wrote:

During elections, Government workers called Talliers are dispatched

Source?

I can't find any mention of that in my resources.


Zoken44 wrote:

During elections, Government workers called Talliers are dispatched to all the local townships and multiple in any large city. Stalls are set up with a tallier on one side, behind a thick curtain, and a switch system. The individual Goes into the booth in privacy, and flips switches indicated for their chosen candidates/laws. The Tallier watches those results from the other side, noting or Tallying, the votes. a Tallier may not discuss any results with anyone until they deliver them to Their central authority.

Because Andoran takes it's democratic status so seriously, Talliers are both protected by and serve under threat of death. Anyone who messes with them, can be put to death, as they have stolen the voices of unknown fellow Andoran Citzens. But, a Tallier who is found to have been fraudulent is sentence to death under the same logic.

There are also the Mounted talliers who ride along roads far from towns and cities looking for those who couldn't vote.

The more urbanized areas where literacy is more guaranteed have paper ballots, but it's still over seen by the talliers.

I don't recall anything about Talliers in the Andoran books. So curious whats the source. :)

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I'd use the response from the Star Trek 'technical advisor' who was asked how the inertial dampeners on the starship Enterprise work. His answer: "They work well."

I wouldn't get hung up on any details about something like an election or a political system unless it is dramatically central to your campaign.

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Yakman wrote:
I wouldn't get hung up on any details about something like an election or a political system unless it is dramatically central to your campaign.

Who says it isn't?

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Yakman wrote:
I wouldn't get hung up on any details about something like an election or a political system unless it is dramatically central to your campaign.
Who says it isn't?

if it is, go all in, I guess.

But otherwise, imho, it's not worth worrying about. Like exactly how do courts work in Ace Attorney???

it's not important. what is important is telling a good story and having fun at the table. unless you really get your jollies off doing world building, i suppose.

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