Hey Paizo Powers that be.... how about official conversions of 2 original APs?


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Scarab Sages

Cauldron: Shackled City and Savage Tide.

Please please please get someone on this to update these two over to PF2ecore for those of us who do not have time to do it for ourselves.

Would love to be able to purchase these in softcover versions, either all in one book or in AP style with 6+ smaller chapters.

Whaddya think?


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I think you don't understand the RPG business. This cannot happen.

Even if the PF2 staff (and sales to support them) doubled in size Paizo would not spend the resources converting them because they've stated it's nearly as hard & costly to convert/update as to create fresh & more relevant APs (which they have planned out for years). So they've only converted their most popular & iconic APs. Worse, those APs you want occur on Oerth/Greyhawk and feature many notable characters (et al) owned by D&D itself so this could never happen officially. Ever.

I'd poke around different RPG forums because there's a chance somebody has already converted them (or at least boss monsters) or could be hired to convert them for you. From what I recall off the top of my head, those APs wouldn't be that hard to informally convert given how useful the monster creation tables are in PF2 though there might be some timing issues because of PF2's reliance on Focus Spells & Treat Wounds (vs. CLW wands which were much faster which matters in enemy bases). If you get the story & atmosphere down, players shouldn't notice if you play fast and loose with good-enough stats & abilities or simple swaps for similar monsters. Aim slightly easy to start because PF2's monsters are more competitive. Check in after every arc to make sure the party has the wealth they need and you're golden, even if you're improvising much of it.

Though yeah, those were good APs.

Grand Lodge

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Zhapenoth wrote:
Whaddya think?

WotC owns everything published in Dungeon and Dragon magazines. Paizo would need a license allowing them to publish an updated version. As much as I would love to have it, I can't ever see the two companies having any interest in pursuing that.


Remastering them is legally problematic given that Hasbro holds the rights to those stories and has just burn the last bridge between themselves and Paizo. Spiritual Successors (E.G. An AP with Demons, Pirates, and Dinosaurs for Savage Tide) has a lot more potential.


Actually, if you’re talking original APs, then Age of Wyrms is the first. However, a republishing is not going to happen for all the reasons given above.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
steelhead wrote:
Actually, if you’re talking original APs, then Age of Wyrms is the first. However, a republishing is not going to happen for all the reasons given above.

Shackled City predates Age of Worms!

But yeah, any conversion would need to be fan made.


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I think he meant first as in priority. Age of Worms was immensely popular, though all of those APs were high quality (with some hiccups and perhaps overlong side treks to reach the highest levels).


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Kingmaker got an update because the video game did very well, and it didn’t disturb the metaplot to move it back into 2e’s timeframe. If any other AP were going to get a redo, I’d say probably just Rise of the Runelords, sometime around 2027 for the 20th Anniversary. But that’s it.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

While we're at it, let's convert some new ones into OD&D! Or T&T, or EPT. Just for giggles.

Ooh. I wanna see someone convert "Age of Ashes" to "The Fantasy Trip" or "Rolemaster." :-)

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber
Tarondor wrote:

While we're at it, let's convert some new ones into OD&D! Or T&T, or EPT. Just for giggles.

Ooh. I wanna see someone convert "Age of Ashes" to "The Fantasy Trip" or "Rolemaster." :-)

I legitimately pulled my Rolemaster copy out last week to show one of my players the insanity that is the Arms Law combat tables. (For those of you that aren't aware, there is a separate, full-page combat table for each different weapon.)

If it's ok with you, I'd rather convert it to Middle-Earth Role Playing, cause that was the most usable version of Rolemaster.

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A lot of those earlyish 'super crunchy' RPGs are why it took me so long to get into it in the first place. I can appreciate rules while still wanting this to be a little more cut and dry.


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
steelhead wrote:
Actually, if you’re talking original APs, then Age of Wyrms is the first. However, a republishing is not going to happen for all the reasons given above.
Shackled City predates Age of Worms!

Indeed it does.

And the unnamed 3.0 AP that starts with The Sunless Citadel predates all of them. (And even before that, the likes of Masks of Nyarlathotep, The Enemy Within, or the Grand Pendragon Campaign could possibly lay claim to the title of first AP depending on where exactly you draw the lines, but they were never officially called that.)


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I think the first adventure path I ever ran was for 1st Edition D&D: Giants 1-3 (Against the Giants), D1-3 (Descent to the Depths of the Earth, Vault of the Drow), then Q1 (Queen of the Demonweb Pits).

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