Do you know who cast sending on you?


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When you cast sending, does the recipient automatically know who you are, or do you need to spend precious words every message to tell them? Would you need to tell them the first time you cast it, but after that they can recognize your magical signature? Could you just lie and say you're someone else? I don't actually think theres any actual RAW on this, but whats everyone's ruling?


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Nothing in the RAW suggests they recognize you automatically, and it only takes one word to add your name to the end.


Note the the remaster trait addition, subtle. Also note that there is no saving throw or the requirement that the target is willing.

And with that a story...

Archie had been plagued for weeks by the voice. Every hour, it whispered dark promises to him. He promised to find whoever was the cause of this villainy, but he was fruitless in his hunt so far.

Eventually knowing he wasn't just going mad, he has resorted to begging for assistance from the local magi and eldritch researchers in the town. They told him of the spell, elementary in nature, but so very common. All of this was of little comfort to him. The only respite they could give him was some glasses, enchanted with the ability to see the arcane auras of the world around him.

He would find this fiend, this devil. He had too, he couldn't remember the last time he had a solid nights rest.

*** Meanwhile, behind the ally way...
Young little Clover loved playing her little games. He teacher was a big old person but ever since she learned this little trick she'd been having so much fun.

She was being careful, her mother taught her well. She never left her human form when around others, but her mother never said anything about being in her fox form, as long as she kept out of sight. Oh this game was much fun!

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Hmm, no caller id huh?


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Unidentifiable Sending spells are a feature in the Overlord books, and a country's military was misdirected by an enemy due to over-reliance on the spell coupled with poor security practices.

It makes things a little more interesting if the spell is unclear about who is using it.


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Kilraq Starlight wrote:

Note the the remaster trait addition, subtle. Also note that there is no saving throw or the requirement that the target is willing.

And with that a story...

Fun story. I even made something like that myself, only the trickster is much-much less benigh.

Only the topic is about another spell :) Sending is a whole 5th rank. So it's neither elementary nor common. And 5+ spell slot every hour... oh, poor Archie if it weren't just a simple Message instead :)
Also, as we are in Rules forum, you can't cast in pest form.


Errenor wrote:
Kilraq Starlight wrote:

Note the the remaster trait addition, subtle. Also note that there is no saving throw or the requirement that the target is willing.

And with that a story...

Fun story. I even made something like that myself, only the trickster is much-much less benigh.

Only the topic is about another spell :) Sending is a whole 5th rank. So it's neither elementary nor common. And 5+ spell slot every hour... oh, poor Archie if it weren't just a simple Message instead :)
Also, as we are in Rules forum, you can't cast in pest form.

/Facepalm

Well that's what I get for writing a short story while in a taxi. Thanks for the catch. And sadly that spell doesn't have the subtle tag. Considering that it can be done on a planetary scale though I guess it doesn't really need it.

Still hilarious though and I do concur that it doesn't indicate who is saying the message. I'll see if I can edit my story now. ...and it will not. My forever shame must be visible.


Errenor wrote:
Kilraq Starlight wrote:

Note the the remaster trait addition, subtle. Also note that there is no saving throw or the requirement that the target is willing.

And with that a story...

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Also, as we are in Rules forum, you can't cast in pest form.

Is that a nested rule? I can't seem to find it. I believe you I just can't find the connection point. The polymorph trait doesn't mention voice loss, and the pest form spell says it doesn't affect statistic, so I am assuming the intelligence loss (and thus language loss) doesn't apply from the animal tag. Just trying to figure it out, because I may have ruled this wrong at a table then.


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You can’t cast in any battleform. Pest Form is a battle form, albeit one with no attacks.


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Kilraq Starlight wrote:
My forever shame must be visible.

Nah, it's just a story. Who cares if it doesn't align with mechanics of some game (unless it's at a PF2 table)? :)

Kilraq Starlight wrote:
Errenor wrote:
Also, as we are in Rules forum, you can't cast in pest form.
Is that a nested rule? I can't seem to find it. I believe you I just can't find the connection point. The polymorph trait doesn't mention voice loss, and the pest form spell says it doesn't affect statistic, so I am assuming the intelligence loss (and thus language loss) doesn't apply from the animal tag. Just trying to figure it out, because I may have ruled this wrong at a table then.

Polymorph trait:"If you take on a battle form with a polymorph spell, the special statistics can be adjusted only by circumstance bonuses, status bonuses, and penalties. Unless otherwise noted, the battle form prevents you from casting spells, speaking, and using most manipulate actions that require hands. (If there's doubt about whether you can use an action, the GM decides.) Your gear is absorbed into you; the constant abilities of your gear still function, but you can't activate any items."

Pest form: "You transform into the battle form of a Tiny animal"


Thanks. Missed that part. /Salute

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