Is Ceremonial Knive intended to give the Witch 24 extra Wands in one Level?

[Christopher#2411504]

Under Character Options, Player Core it says:

Quote:

The Ceremonial Knife feat (page 188) can be used once per day to create one wand.

The feat was already not the clearest written, but I think this ruling made it worse. It says: "create one wand". Not "create one temporary wand".

If we still usually get 8 days of downtime per adventure, the witch can create 8 wands per adventure. You get it by level 6, so that is 24 Wands by level 7.

Now I am pretty sure this falls under "too good to be true". But I thought I double check, just to be sure. And so somebody sees this and can fix it.

[Alex Speidel]

That's absolutely not what that means, no. It's also not a temporary wand, it stays as a normal wand until and unless you change its spell during your daily preparation.

The point is your witch gets one (1) fancy knife which can become one (1) wand of a spell of your choice. You can change this spell at any time during your daily prep. The clarification is fine.

[Gamerskum]

The knife is the wand, you dont use it to make wands.

[Finoan]

I think the confusion is because of two things.

One, because the wand isn't a temporary wand. It doesn't ever stop being a wand.

And two,

Alex Speidel wrote:

your witch gets one (1) fancy knife

That limitation isn't mentioned in the feat or the clarification.

If a Witch has 6 knives, could they turn them each into a wand one day at a time?

No? Why not?

[Tomppa]

Finoan wrote:

Alex Speidel wrote:

your witch gets one (1) fancy knife

That limitation isn't mentioned in the feat or the clarification.

If a Witch has 6 knives, could they turn them each into a wand one day at a time?

No? Why not?

No, because:

Alex Speidel Organized Play Coordinator wrote:

it stays as a normal wand until and unless you change its spell during your daily preparation.

The point is your witch gets one (1) fancy knife which can become one (1) wand of a spell of your choice. You can change this spell at any time during your daily prep.

Yes, the original feat isn't... Written perfectly. Yes, the clarification could state "one wand that lasts until your next daily preparations" to eliminate any and all confusion.

However, Alex has clearly stated what the intent is: You get one wand, with one spell, that you can change during daily prep. Not six wands with six spells.

[Cordell Kintner]

Without clarification, it allows you to make as many wands as you have knives during a single daily prep period. The clarification says you can only make one knife a day. The intent of the feat is that you can only have one knife at a time, ever.

It definitely should be added to either the clarification or the feat itself that enchanting another knife ends any existing enchantment, which is better than having it last until your next prep just in case you forget about it for some reason. But it's also clear that the intent of the feat and clarification is that you get only one free wand knife at a time.

[Nectarian]

I read the feat as "you can enchant 1 knife to act as a wand of a spell you know (some level requirements) each time you do daily preparations".
I don't think the feat allows for multiple knive-wands per day, but as long as you don't overcharge them, you should be able to enlarge your collection.

This however is the RAW interpretation I have. In Essence this gives the witch one "fixed" spellslot per ingame day (unless you really need to overcharge) for the cost of one feat (cost of knives not included, but honestly... maybe 1 sp for a wand, that's insane)... This is simply not acceptable and I guess that any DM will add something like "at the next daily Preparation the knive loses this abillity but can be re-enchanted" or "this kknive will lose the spell the moment you prepare a second knive".
I still can't believe there was no mention of this in the Errata.

[HammerJack]

Truthfully, I think it kind of fell under "There's no way anyone actually believes they get an ever-expanding collection of free wands. They might claim it because they want endless wands, but they know it isn't true."

That probably puts it further down the list than things people could actually be confused about.