Umbral Umbral Scion Sorcerer?

[the xiao]

So, umbral scion requires yo to have the shadow bloodline. The umbral mutated bloodline changes your bloodline power, as does umbral scion. So, would it be possible to have both archetypes and get the umbral arcana and umbral scion 1st level bloodline power? I don't see any problems but wanted to ask.

[Mysterious Stranger]

RAW they both replace shadow strike, so they are not compatible. Furthermore, Umbral Scion requires the shadow bloodline. Umbral does not meet the requirement.

[the xiao]

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

RAW they both replace shadow strike, so they are not compatible. Furthermore, Umbral Scion requires the shadow bloodline. Umbral does not meet the requirement.

I know, but speaking about power level, it would be just changing the bloodline arcana really. From a very niche and difficult to use bonus (spell level to Stealth checks... Unless you cast silent or non-verbal spells, it is kind of counterintuitive), to a more tactical and useful ability (bonus to Stealth to another target).

[Mysterious Stranger]

this is the rules forum. Might want to ask this in the advice instead of here.

[Azothath]

the Rules Forum just explains the Rules (RAW). it would get real messy if it did more

Home Brew and General Forums are more speculative and Home Brew is about changing the rules. Advice is, well, advice 8^)

[the xiao]

Thanks mah guys, will remember it. I opted for a base Umbral sorcerer at the end. Losing spells per day is a little too much anyway.