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did someboday say more kish
Before the 2e announcement, one of the things Thurston spoke about in the first half of the year is "Starfinder has spent years developing interesting locations, situations, species, etc., and then leaving them uninvestigated. We'd like to revisit some of those!" I don't know if that applied only to the interregnum between 1e and the then-unannounced 2e, but I'm going to assume that that general design philosophy will carry forwards to 2e, especially as regards new lore/canon.
That being the case, there's lots of stuff introduced in Starfinder that's gone basically untouched! I personally would like to see more stuff from some of the new deities: like has the Devourer, Oras, Talavet, Yaraesa, or others gotten anything new, really? I can think of a handful of small adventure callouts, and I guess there's a 1-pager for each from Galactic Magic, but they haven't done anything to interact with the setting.
I personally don't find it particularly interesting, but I know a lot of people feel the same about the Dominion of the Black - for all that the Dominion was, to one extent or another, sort of the bogeyman that kept people from the stars in the Pathfinder era, they've been pointedly absent in Starfinder.
It sounds like Pulonis / Pahtra Independence could be a thing that happens, too - it's been building up for a while now, and with pahtra becoming one of the core species, maybe this is a thing! I kinda hope it happens "on screen," as it were, and there's, like, an AP (or, hell, even a year long, Drift Crisis-style, event about it!) where players can take part!
I'm 100% with you re: The Eshtayiv! I've heard some Paizo people say that existing Lovecraftian lore is boring, but Paizo making up new Great Old Ones, to have Paizo's take on the Mythos, would be cool. I think The Eshtayiv is a neat step in that direction!
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Crass speculation: the planet that will explode is Aballon.
Why? Well, we know that Aballonian society is divided. Not only between Those Who Wait and Those Who Become, but there's also the more recent third faction, mentioned in Pact Worlds p. 21 as "so-called upstarts." This latest faction is unconcerned with the First Ones and their legacy, and instead live life enjoying their own freedoms and ability to self-determinate ("Those Who DGAF"?). This isn't even mentioning the fringe elements, like Those Who Create; surely there's many other smaller "Those Who"s out there, too.
Next, the upcoming Bounty Those Who Were Taken mentions trouble a-brewin' on Aballon: post-Drift Crisis prejudice towards non-organic life, plus the major factions of Anacites are barely avoiding open hostilities. (Is that new? Have we heard about / seen intra-Anacite societal conflict before?)
Finally, Thursty's mentioned an interest in the First Ones as one of the things the Star Friends are hoping to explore more going forwards (in interviews earlier in the year, talking about Starfinder's future & Enhanced, before the 2E announcement at GenCon.) What better way to kick-off a new major plot element than blowing up that element's home? Not to mention, there's a certain Herald still in the wind who, last we saw, had taken an unusual interest in Aballon...but I'm sure that wont come up :D
In conclusion: so long, Aballon? Thank you for coming to my Space-TED Talk :D
I've also thought it would be Aballon for the same reasons, and noticed the new bounty as further evidence.
Aballon is one of the interesting planets though. Triaxus is boring – so I'd like to blow up Triaxus please.
Meta-contextual guess: It won't be Aballon while the Starfinder Society is offering the opportunity (via player vote) to conduct a deep exploration of the First Ones.
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Meta-contextual guess: It won't be Aballon while the Starfinder Society is offering the opportunity (via player vote) to conduct a deep exploration of the First Ones.
Yeah didn't want to say it, but it would be really weird if they blew up aballon in this context x'D
i would guess that the Veskarium has largely collapsed. We know the pahtra are joining the pact worlds, there's an active secessionist movement with collaborators in the government in the icy worlds of vesk 8 & 9, and it's embroiled in a conflict with the azlanti.
I guess Veskarium might be treated less like antagonist in 2e if they are actively in conflict with much more worse ASE
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Meta-contextual guess: It won't be Aballon while the Starfinder Society is offering the opportunity (via player vote) to conduct a deep exploration of the First Ones.
See, I feel the opposite: we know the one place where the First Ones aren't: Aballon. If you want to go out searching for, and meet them, you absolutely don't need Aballon to do that. In fact, if you happen to have
Thinking on it from another angle: if some faction has decided Aballon has to go, there's a million reasons that that could really kick-start a renewed search for the First Ones. Those Who Wait obviously can't wait anymore, so maybe they turn into Those Who Seek or something. Triune may be pissed that someone just asploded a part of the data-holy trinity, but no one has the technical expertise to rebuild/repair Epoch, except for the First Ones who began (but never finished) its construction, so now it's time for a Holy Pilgrimage for Tier 3 Tech Support.
Aballon exploding could be the catalyst for any number of groups to decide "well shoot, now's the time to search in earnest," including the Starfinders.
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Yeah but uh... By that logic, either paizo is going to do nothing with Aballon on SFS depending on who wins OR is going to do something with them on SFS regardless of who wins?
That's why I thought it was weird option and why I feel uncomfortable with considering it x'D Like would you really give one in fourth chance to have tie in between big important setting changes and SFS?
I find it much easier to believe Idari being blown up due to possibility of Idari being heavily damaged during Devastation Ark, since that one has lot of possible after effect stories rather than just removing interesting adventure location from pact worlds(Idari is treated more as "kasatha home away from home" rather than super interesting adventuring world)
Aucturn I don't really see hatching or being blown up, but could honestly see it as alternate option since Aucturn turning into corpse world would still be interesting location. Still though, I guess since Eox did blow up Diaspora in ancient times anyway that entire planet blowing up literally isn't impossible :'D
Idari is my second pick because Kasatha are so boring that they should be dropped as a core ancestry.
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End of the day I still think Aucturn is going to hatch. The Idari being destroyed would be, if anything, too familiar to me. (It's been destroyed twice already in alternative timelines, so to speak.)
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One thing is that I assume or at least hope devs aren't going with "Devastation Ark pcs decided to fly Ark Prime into sun" ending because that would be most boring "let's preserve status quo" option and Pathfinder 2e has shown me that devs like to pick the interesting options :p so while Ark Prime likely wouldn't be pact worlds, it might still be in solar system.
But yeah another reason why I wouldn't mind Aucturn Hatching even though that might or might not be apocalyptic? Its the option, along with Idari, that feels least like "Let's blow up the setting for new edition!" type option like spellplague for me :'D Because possibility of aucturn hatching has been a thing ever since Doomsday dawn revealed what it is meaning its something that has been hanging over for years now
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Ah sorry ^^; Err if it makes it at all better, none of what I said is something guaranteed? Sorry not sure what to say, but its not possible to edit spoiler tags to old posts anymore D:
(D: Its really hard to remember what is common knowledge and what isn't in Pathfinder 1e, pathfinder 2e and starfinder. Like I think only thing I know for sure as common knowledge is runelord related stuff, but everything else seems chaotic. And I often forget spoiler tagging when it comes to things that might or might not happen rather than something that is going to happen D:)
Here’s a simple one I’ve always wondered about: where’d Nethys go?
The regional god of magic on one missing planet? No reason he can have a few cultists out there while he does his own thing in his planar realm. There could be dozens of them. Dozens!
There's a fringe belief that Nethys might actually be Eloritu. Eloritu has no comment, but his followers point to contrary evidence.
Edicts seek out magical power and use it
Anathema pursue mundane paths over magical ones
I’ve never really seen Nethys as some kind of howling mad scientist, and I think his Edicts and Anathema speak to that. This is the guy who founded Osirion - he’s not just an explosion on two legs.
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I’ve never really seen Nethys as some kind of howling mad scientist, and I think his Edicts and Anathema speak to that. This is the guy who founded Osirion - he’s not just an explosion on two legs.Edicts seek out magical power and use it
Anathema pursue mundane paths over magical ones
but what if he wanted to go bigger?