Pathfinder 2e remaster and the changes in the Dweomercat Cub familiar


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


The Dweomercat Cub has an ability called alter Dweomer, which consists of small buffs based on the school type of a cast spell. However, as traditional schools will no longer exist, what kinds of changes do you think this family member will have?


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I don't expect it to get it an update, if I'm being honest.

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I would use it just like now for spells that are in OGL PF2. And for those spells unique to Remastered/ ORC let the GM decide which effect/buff seems more in line with what the spell does.


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keftiu wrote:
I don't expect it to get it an update, if I'm being honest.

Why not? It looks like a Pathfinder original creature and we know some degree of old book errata will be needed. Do you just view this as too minor a bit in a side book to bother with?


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Captain Morgan wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I don't expect it to get it an update, if I'm being honest.
Why not? It looks like a Pathfinder original creature and we know some degree of old book errata will be needed. Do you just view this as too minor a bit in a side book to bother with?

"A specific familiar in a pre-Remaster Lost Omens book" feels like the kind of thing that isn't likely to get a second look, IMO.


If there are spells in the remaster that are not directly based on pre-remaster spells (whose schools you can look up) I would say "the GM makes a call as to what effect is most appropriate for what the spell does."

Alternatively "Roll 1d8" is a reasonable way to do it.


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keftiu wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I don't expect it to get it an update, if I'm being honest.
Why not? It looks like a Pathfinder original creature and we know some degree of old book errata will be needed. Do you just view this as too minor a bit in a side book to bother with?
"A specific familiar in a pre-Remaster Lost Omens book" feels like the kind of thing that isn't likely to get a second look, IMO.

Given that Paizo only recently touted changes to their errata system to allow them to update things outside print cycles and more frequently, stuff like this is a perfect example of what it should be applied to.

Between that and their touted claims of full compatibility, I think it would be kind of a bad look to just leave a bunch of existing mechanics nonfunctional on their own.

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Squiggit wrote:
keftiu wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote:
keftiu wrote:
I don't expect it to get it an update, if I'm being honest.
Why not? It looks like a Pathfinder original creature and we know some degree of old book errata will be needed. Do you just view this as too minor a bit in a side book to bother with?
"A specific familiar in a pre-Remaster Lost Omens book" feels like the kind of thing that isn't likely to get a second look, IMO.

Given that Paizo only recently touted changes to their errata system to allow them to update things outside print cycles and more frequently, stuff like this is a perfect example of what it should be applied to.

Between that and their touted claims of full compatibility, I think it would be kind of a bad look to just leave a bunch of existing mechanics nonfunctional on their own.

Would that be worth the effort of looking for all such instances in all books and provide an elegant Remastered solution for each and every instance ?

I think not. I'd rather they work on new material.

If I were Paizo, I would list all those instances and assess which ones are really worth the effort and which can be left to the GMs. This here example is pretty easy for a GM to adjudicate.

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