Pack Flanking and Sneak Attack


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Halfling Paladin/Rogue riding a wardog (animal companion). Both have Pack Flanking, If they were to charge an opponent, would the attacks from the Halfling get the flanking bonus, and thusly qualify for Sneak Attack Damage.

What about just fighting while mounted, would the same apply?


As long as the rider is not using a lance (or other reach weapon).


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Pack Flanking (Teamwork, Combat)

You and your companion creature are adept at fighting together against foes.

Prerequisite(s): Int 13, Combat Expertise, ability to acquire an animal companion.

Benefit: When you and your companion creature have this feat, your companion creature is adjacent to you or sharing your square, and you both threaten the same opponent, you are both considered to be flanking that opponent, regardless of your actual positioning.

Normal: You must be positioned opposite an ally to flank an opponent.

Yes, both would qualify for pack flanking bonus while the rider is mounted (you're sharing the same square). The halfling would qualify for SnA because the creature would be flanked.

And like Java Man said, you must be able to threaten the target. So if you have an inappropriate weapon or are otherwise incapable of flanking/threatening (such as if the creature has a feat, item, or class ability that prevents you from flanking/threatening, like Uncanny Dodge or if the creature has a way of giving you the Antagonized condition if you play with 3pp conditions ), then you wouldn't be flanking/threatening, and therefore you wouldn't qualify for SnA.


That's pretty much what we thought. the question arose because the text on charging says that the mount spends it's turn moving, and therefore doesn't get an attack. We didn't know if this also meant it couldn't threaten, and thusly not qualify for the Pack Flank feat.


TxSam88 wrote:
That's pretty much what we thought. the question arose because the text on charging says that the mount spends it's turn moving, and therefore doesn't get an attack. We didn't know if this also meant it couldn't threaten, and thusly not qualify for the Pack Flank feat.

threatening has to do with what squares your able to attack into and has nothing to do with if you did or did not attack on your turn.


TxSam88 wrote:
the question arose because the text on charging says that the mount spends it's turn moving, and therefore doesn't get an attack.

This got changed in this FAQ, which makes it clear that the moutn is also doing the charge action, and thus also gets an attack.

Of course, as vhok said, you don't need to make attacks to threaten. A mount doing a double move rather than a charge would leave it unable to do a regular attack that turn, and yet the mount would threaten and trigger the feat.


cool, thanks guys

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