Enlarge Person along with Long Arms allowed?

[Gronk de'Morcaine]

I'm not seeing a specific prohibiting this since neither is an actual polymorph spell.

I told the player, I was OK with it unless I find a ruling against it. It doesn't seem that huge of an impact to me. Bloodragers get very few spells and he will have to use 2 of them at the same time to get a 15' reach.

[Java Man]

Only a 15' reach? I think somebody needs a glaive.

Yes the combo works.

[vhok]

long arms, enlarge person, lunge, 2 bloodrager bloodlines give 5ft reach, grab a whip, get whirlwind attack. 35 foot reach full bab. costs a lot of feats but its fun.

[Azothath]

[PFS legal]Enlarge Person T1, short description "Humanoid creature doubles in size."

[PFS legal]Long Arm T1, short description "Your arms lengthen, giving you extra reach."

I don't see why it wouldn't work together, in any casting order.
Still it takes two rounds to buff with Enlarge Person taking a full round AND Long Arm being Personal spell...

[Mark Hoover 330]

Wow I ah... I owe a bloodrager from like 3 years ago an apology. I was starting the game at L3 and the player asked to be a big ole bruiser so he was a skinwalker (crocodile kin) bloodrager with a bardiche going Weapon Focus, Power Attack and Cleave.

He asked the party wizard to craft scrolls of Enlarge Person and Longarm, the idea that they'd pre-buff the BR with both scrolls before big group fights. I said no 'cuz I thought that both were considered "size changes." Now actually reading words...

That would've been crazy. That's normally a 10' reach w/the bardiche as Medium sized, then Enlarged to 15' reach, then another 5' from Long Arm for a 20' Cleave radius. I thought 15' was brutal. Plus, their tactic was to just kind of stick close to one another, let foes come to them (BR was working towards combat reflexes) so it was like sending melee monsters through a woodchipper.

Anyway, thanks for this thread. I need to go tell a former player at my tables he was right, I was wrong.

[AwesomenessDog]

Note that you have to have your targets be adjacent to one another (or at least approximately adjacent if you're getting bigger and have nice gms) unless you are a dwarf with their racial cleave feats: goblin cleaver, orc hewer, giant killer. So you likely wouldn't have been wrong in telling them that an actual cleave build wouldn't work.

[Name Violation]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

Wow I ah... I owe a bloodrager from like 3 years ago an apology. I was starting the game at L3 and the player asked to be a big ole bruiser so he was a skinwalker (crocodile kin) bloodrager with a bardiche going Weapon Focus, Power Attack and Cleave.

He asked the party wizard to craft scrolls of Enlarge Person and Longarm, the idea that they'd pre-buff the BR with both scrolls before big group fights. I said no 'cuz I thought that both were considered "size changes." Now actually reading words...

That would've been crazy. That's normally a 10' reach w/the bardiche as Medium sized, then Enlarged to 15' reach, then another 5' from Long Arm for a 20' Cleave radius. I thought 15' was brutal. Plus, their tactic was to just kind of stick close to one another, let foes come to them (BR was working towards combat reflexes) so it was like sending melee monsters through a woodchipper.

Anyway, thanks for this thread. I need to go tell a former player at my tables he was right, I was wrong.

It's a 30 ft reach.

10 for large or long arm, 15 for long arm + large, reach weapon doubles all reach.
Lunge + large + long arm + reach weapon would be 40 ft

[Derklord]

Name Violation wrote:

It's a 30 ft reach.

10 for large or long arm, 15 for long arm + large, reach weapon doubles all reach.

You're actually both incorrect: Reach weapon doubles natural reach*, everything else is added afterwards. *) and doubles the dead zone

Large + RW + Long Arm = 25ft.
Large + RW + Long Arm + Lunge = 30ft.

A Wild Shape Druid with Weapon Shift with a reach weapon has 30ft reach at 8th level, by the way (with a 15ft dead zone).

[Azothath]

excellent FAQ link (and read the one above it)