
Mr.Chrono |

Hello all been playing for almost 2 years and I've racked up 240 points in society play I'm looking to start a new society character and try in build something a little crazy with the points i have I know the top 3 I was looking at for my next character was either a wizard a barbarian or a magus or if anyone has a great idea for one i would like to hear thank you in advance for taking to the time to read this and give any advice that you give happy dice rolling everyone

Sanityfaerie |

So either a full caster, a full martial, or a hybrid caster-martial.
Well, now that that has been narrowed down nicely, perhaps you should start with what you want the character to do and behave like. What do you mean by 'something a little crazy'?
I believe that what they're saying is they've got a bunch of PFS points, and they want to spend them. They want a character who's interesting and wacky and will let them walk around being weird in the way that PFS only allows you to be weird if you spend a bunch of points on it, while still being a functional character with a coherent story who isn't making themselves obviously weaker just to cram more weirdness in.
I somewhat suspect that this would do better on the PFS-specific board.
Regardless, are you lookign to spend them all at once? Spend 160 on your ancestry and 80 on your heritage (or go Beastkin and flip those) and you're there.
Just for one off the top of my head, Orc Beastkin Spirit Barbarian seems like it might hang together pretty well. You wouldnt' want a beastkin giant bar or dragon barb, because the size boosts don't stack, and animal barb also tends to clash in a transofrmational way, but the others work just fine.
On the other side of things, sprite geniekin (in your choice of flavors) seems like it might be a decent basis for a wizard and would let you walk (or flitter) around being obviously small and elementally aligned.
Alternately, Sprite Dhampir would (eventually) let you have an undead corgi.

Farien |
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Yes. It seems that Mr.Chrono is having 'blank slate' problems.
The difficulty with the post though, is that the rest of us also have the same 'blank slate' problems with the additional hiccup that we don't even know what Mr.Chrono likes playing, doesn't like playing, or has played previously.
So I would love to help. But I think that all we are going to do is spam a ton of strange character concepts that Mr.Chrono won't actually like.

Sanityfaerie |
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Yes. It seems that Mr.Chrono is having 'blank slate' problems.
The difficulty with the post though, is that the rest of us also have the same 'blank slate' problems with the additional hiccup that we don't even know what Mr.Chrono likes playing, doesn't like playing, or has played previously.
So I would love to help. But I think that all we are going to do is spam a ton of strange character concepts that Mr.Chrono won't actually like.
Sometimes you need to hand the client a rock.
The client comes to you. They say "I want a thing." You say "what manner of thing?" They can't give you any sort of coherent answer... but if you hand them a rock, and call it version 1 of your thing, then they can tell you why the rock is wrong, and what needs to be done to fix it.
In this case, we've been given 3 specific different classes, and an expressed desire to spend something like 240 PFS points and receive something kind of crazy in return, where "crazy" is ill-defined. That's not enough information to build a character and be sure you can get it right, but it's plenty for initial rock selection.

Mr.Chrono |

I am sorry I did not make the post more clear after thinking about it I want to play a wizard as my next character but with the points I have is it worth it to buy access to a bunch of spells from secrets of magic or get access to some of the vendors from the grand bazarr part of me was thinking about a tengu wizard with the shadow magic archetype and I think that's 120 points right there and sorry again for not being more clear with what I'm looking for and thank you farien I completely forgot about posting in the pfs area thank you all for your input and ideas

Errenor |
Citation?
You can't Long Jump farther than your Speed, but Leap does not have that restriction.
Oh, no. Don't even try. When Long Jump was always designed as a way to jump further than Leap, and they didn't even think that you could attempt to stack bonuses on Leap to make it longer than Long Jump, and under normal circumstances it's not possible, and therefore they put the restriction only on Long Jump (and also in the Wings feature of Strix and probably everywhere Long Jump is improved), you just can't argue that was not the intention. In this case rules lawyering would be especially pathetic.

Gortle |

I am sorry I did not make the post more clear after thinking about it I want to play a wizard as my next character but with the points I have is it worth it to buy access to a bunch of spells from secrets of magic or get access to some of the vendors from the grand bazarr part of me was thinking about a tengu wizard with the shadow magic archetype and I think that's 120 points right there and sorry again for not being more clear with what I'm looking for and thank you farien I completely forgot about posting in the pfs area thank you all for your input and ideas
So definitely Wizard not Sorcerer or Bard? I like the Tengu racial abilites beyond just the feats for flight, if I have a bit of charisma
Shadow Caster is interesting. Are you looking at the Shadow Hound, or
Shadow Reservoir, or the focus spells?

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This is technically the best place, because it's the Advice Forum. There is no "PFS Advice" Forum. Similar to how there is no "PFS Rules" Forum.
The PFS Forum is for discussing PFS-specific topics, like Chronicles, story arcs, Character Options, Leadership, and so on.
You can actually see what the values are from your account. And if you're not yet a member on Paizo, if you sign up, you'll get 80 bonus points!
Long story short, you earn 4 pts per game played (generally), and you use them to purchase Uncommon options from a curated list.
What you can purchase and the value of them all can be seen under your Account, after you've joined, on the Boons tab.

breithauptclan |

What you can purchase and the value of them all can be seen under your Account, after you've joined, on the Boons tab.
Is there a way to see what needs to be purchased and how many boon points it costs without joining?
Because that is the other problem that I am having with this thread. I don't know what is already available by default and what is out of budget.

graystone |

Nefreet wrote:What you can purchase and the value of them all can be seen under your Account, after you've joined, on the Boons tab.Is there a way to see what needs to be purchased and how many boon points it costs without joining?
I can't see anything because I don't have a character: you need to join PFS to see things as far as I can see. It tells me "You have 80.00 Achievement Points" but unless I select a character I don't have I can't see anything. :(
Because that is the other problem that I am having with this thread. I don't know what is already available by default and what is out of budget.
Yep... That's why I'm seeing this as a PFS specific thread and not a general advice since only PFS people can give any informed advice.
EDIT: ok, for some reason it's allowing me to see some of the costs for ancestries/heritages but very few of them have it. And, for instance, he mentioned Specialized Training - Shadowcaster and that has no listed cost for me.

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Most Common options don't cost anything, and most Uncommon options are only available as Boons. Most Rare options aren't available at all.
(long story short, obviously)
You could look at the OP's request as, "Hey my GM is giving me Access to Uncommon options, what sort of build can I make that's different and interesting?"

graystone |

You could look at the OP's request as, "Hey my GM is giving me Access to Uncommon options, what sort of build can I make that's different and interesting?"
I don't not knowing key things, like the cost of options he expressly talked about like the shadow magic archetype, so makes it that I can't gauge if making an android and/or undine shadowcaster is a possibility with the points they have. As such, it makes so I can't give good advice as it's centered around spending points when I don't know how many each option has. No matter how you frame the question, it still revolves around "I've racked up 240 points in society play I'm looking to start a new society character" and I just can't advise on what to so when I can't tell what 240 points means and what and how many options that translates into. I mean I can say a sprite beastkin is a different and interesting character you can play but that doesn't mean much if they don't have enough points to do that.

graystone |

Long story short, I believe the OP has enough points for any ancestry and versatile heritage, including rares (I believe the new costs are 120 max, but don’t quote me, automaton might cost more).
The OP expressed an interest in the shadow magic archetype: not knowing it's cost [it's blank for me] makes it so I don't know if they can take that with a ancestry/heritage that costs points too. Secondly, I've heard 120 for ancestries and 80 for heritages but the only ones that come up for me costs 160 points... LOL As I've said, it's hard to advise without being able to see the list with prices attached.

Sanityfaerie |

It looks like Ancestries cost 80, 120, or 160 points. Heritages that cost anything tend to cost 80, though Beastkin costs 160... but I tossed out some ancestry/heritage combos, and the OP indicated that they weren't interested in those. I have no idea of the costs of the other stuff. Also, the OP has not indicated what they *want*. Like, we know that they're interested in a wizard now, and that they want to buy gear and spell selections, but they're asking "tell me if these are good" without indicating what they want them to be good *for*.
It's not just raw power, because Paizo is real good at tweaking things so that these uncommon options don't get you that. So... what is it? I gave you a rock. What do you want?