Hello, is it possible to drink a potion and use an oil in an aquatic environment ?
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The rules don't address it, and drinking from a glass bottle while underwater is a thing that you can do in real life, so I don't see a reason to assume you couldn't do it in a fantasy game.
These are the kind of questions that the GM needs to address if they find there's an issue.
I would allow potions underwater, but not oils as I hardly see how you can spill the liquid on what you want to oil when underwater.
On the other hand oils don't mix with water even in real life and special magical oils which are created to stick to stuff have all reasons to work even underwater.These are the kind of questions that the GM needs to address if they find there's an issue.
I would allow potions underwater, but not oils as I hardly see how you can spill the liquid on what you want to oil when underwater.
If it's applied before entering water, I'll let the oil work. But applying it underwater seems impossible to me. To apply an oil, you need to spill it, which would result in a lot of oil in water.
I think in PF1 you had a potion sponge for underwater use.
Worst case scenario, I assume this exist in PF2 (but not at that price).
Don't know how I would handle oils, but I wouldn't prevent players from using them. Just need to come up with a narrative way that makes sense for them to use it.
I think in PF1 you had a potion sponge for underwater use.
Worst case scenario, I assume this exist in PF2 (but not at that price).
Don't know how I would handle oils, but I wouldn't prevent players from using them. Just need to come up with a narrative way that makes sense for them to use it.
I'd allow both potions and oils to work underwater, and have potion sponges the same price as their vial counterparts.
If it's applied before entering water, I'll let the oil work. But applying it underwater seems impossible to me. To apply an oil, you need to spill it, which would result in a lot of oil in water.On the other hand oils don't mix with water even in real life and special magical oils which are created to stick to stuff have all reasons to work even underwater.These are the kind of questions that the GM needs to address if they find there's an issue.
I would allow potions underwater, but not oils as I hardly see how you can spill the liquid on what you want to oil when underwater.Or not at all if it's rather viscous and you can control the rate of it coming out of a vessel. I can easily imagine that.
If you really don't want it to just work you could ask for Thievery check at least.
Honestly, I don't think I'll ever be in such a situation as a GM, so I'm not putting too much thought into my answer. If my player comes with an idea to make it work, I'll certainly allow them. But I'll be reluctant to allow it as is.
As a player, I'd ask my GM if I want to do anything like that, like I did when my Alchemist ended up underwater.
So rereading the rules, the description of oils (for PF2) says:
Oils are magical gels, ointments, pastes, or salves that are typically applied to an object and are used up in the process.
So it sounds like these are basically exactly like potions, except you use them on objects instead of ingesting them because the spells they're based on work on objects and not people.
It also mentions that they are gels, ointments, pastes, or salves and I would simply say that at least one of these types is suitable for underwater use. And if you knew you wanted to use one of these underwater, you would purchase the appropriate kind. Although if you stockpile in advance, you might not have one that would work.