Snake (constrict) = attack special ability???


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Hi all!
Need you help with a little strange for animal companion snake (constrict) attack special ability step by step...

Animal companion snake (constrict) from 1-st lvl has Attack bite (1d3 plus grab) - if the attack is successful companion provide grab against enemy's CMD WITHOUT provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of the maneuver (because HAVE attack plus grab) and if succesful again enemy is grappled.

On 4-th level animal companion has only Attack bite (1d4) and special attack (constrict). No info that Attack bite on 4-th level has plus grab/
So on after 4-th level Animal companion snake (constrict) can use grab? but with following details...
- if the attack is successful companion provide grab against enemy's CMD WITH provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of the maneuver (because HAVEN'T attack plus grab)and if succesful again enemy is grappled. And when enemy grappled animal companion can use special attack constrict with 1d4 damage as it write in universal monster rules for Animal companion snake (constrict)...

Do I understand correctly?

I have next argument for my point of view...
In universal monster rules for Animal companion snake (constrict) listed that attack+grab he has only on 1-st level, on 4-th level he has only bite with growing damage and addition special attack constrict.
For example:
- Animal companion Snake (poison) have attack+poison on 1-st and 4-th level whith growing damage (that listed in universal monster rules for Animal companion).
- Animal companion Wolf have attack+trip on 1-st and 4-th level whith growing damage (that listed in universal monster rules for Animal companion).
- Animal companion Cameroceras have attack+grab on 1-st and attack+grab on 4-th level whith growing damage and addition special attack constrict (that listed in universal monster rules for Animal companion).

Please, answer what you think about this because I think that my point of view is correct but my players say that its very strange that snake has grab on 1-st level and lose it on 4-th...


Quote:

PFS Legal Snake

Source Core Rulebook pg. 216
Your companion is a constrictor snake, such as a boa or python.
Size Small
Melee Single Action jaws (finesse), Damage 1d8 piercing
Str 3, Dex 3, Con 1, Int -4, Wis 1, Cha 0
Hit Points 6
Skill Stealth
Senses low-light vision, scent (imprecise, 30 feet)
Speed 20 feet, climb 20 feet, swim 20 feet
Support Benefit Your snake holds your enemies with its coils, interfering with reactions. Until the start of your next turn, any creature your snake threatens can’t use reactions triggered by your actions unless its level is higher than yours.
Advanced Maneuver Constrict
Constrict Single Action
Source Core Rulebook pg. 216
Requirements The snake has a smaller creature grabbed.
The snake deals 12 bludgeoning damage to the grabbed creature; the creature must attempt a basic Fortitude save. If the snake is a specialized animal companion, increase this damage to 20.

I see no free grab in the snake companion sheet ( and since it is a lvl a feat, even a lvl 1 snake companion won't have free grap ).

I think you are probably reading monster stats instead.

However, since it is trained in athletics, I guess he could consider to use athletics to grab instead of an attack.


Hi all!
Look! We speak about Snake Constrictor!

My Ranger have "Boon companion" feat, and she is 6lvl.
Constrictor is 6lvl to (see a ranger feat).

In the druid's animal companion list we see:
middle constrictor (1lvl) and large constrictor (4lvl+).
At 1lvl attack is bite (1d3) plus grab.
At 4lvl attack is bite (1d4), and snake add's special attack: constrict!

The TS ask: does the 4lvl constrictor have/know a grab?

Does the constrictor at the 4lvl make bite+grab+constrict?

P.S. Sorry for my English :)


Sorry, fellows, it's my fault.
I'm asked about animal kompanion snake (constrictor)...


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Is it a p1 feat?
I can't find that one on nethys.

https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?Traits=136


HumbleGamer wrote:

Is it a p1 feat?

I can't find that one on nethys.

https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?Traits=136

Yes! We play in PF1.


Then it is the wrong section ( this is the pathfinder 2 forum, rule section )

You should go here

https://paizo.com/community/forums/pathfinder/firstEdition

And post it in the rule section.


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