Sheyln has two skills offer performance and crafting. If your a cleric and background makes you trained in one do you have to pick the other or can you just pick a skill like normal if you got the skill from somewhere else?
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Hmm... The rules don't actually say one way or the other. The wording of both the Cleric class's Deity feature and the Cleric Archetype dedication seem to assume that the Deity only grants one skill.
For comparison, Rogue Dedication also lists two skills as options. It also explicitly says that you have to be already trained in both skills before you can choose one freely.
So on one hand, you could use the Rogue Dedication as precedent and say that having Shelyn as deity would mean that you have to be trained in both skills before being able to choose one freely.
On the other hand, you could use the absence of any rules text like the Rogue Dedication has as being significant. Since the rules for Cleric Deity only say that you have to be trained in 'the' skill of the Deity, you can choose one of those options that Shelyn offers as 'the' skill that Shelyn would train you in. If you are already trained in that skill, then you can choose freely.
For my ruling, I would allow a Cleric character to choose freely if only trained in one of those Deity skills. Requiring the Cleric to be trained in both seems unjustly limiting since many Deities only offer one skill.
Sheyln has two skills offer performance and crafting. If your a cleric and background makes you trained in one do you have to pick the other or can you just pick a skill like normal if you got the skill from somewhere else?
As Morridyn says, you don't get the option to pick a another skill. However: "The steps of character creation are presented in a suggested order, but you can complete them in whatever order you prefer." This means that you can do background first and then take whatever it is that duplicates one of the skills and if that allows you the option to pick another skill you can do so.
Don't nail me down on the statement but wasn't there somewhere in general written that if you gain a skill double you can pick another one?
Might be that it's just imprinted because it is written with almost every archetype and background
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It's in the Core Rulebook on page 60:
If you gain the trained proficiency rank in a skill from your background and would then gain the trained proficiency rank in the same skill from your class at 1st level, you instead become trained in another skill of your choice.
Even Better as it's a more general rule (Core page 233):
"Each time after the first that you'd become trained in a given skill, you instead allocate the trained proficiency to any other skill of your choice—though if the skill is a Lore skill, the new skill must also be a Lore skill."
It's in the Core Rulebook on page 60:
If you gain the trained proficiency rank in a skill from your background and would then gain the trained proficiency rank in the same skill from your class at 1st level, you instead become trained in another skill of your choice.
Even Better as it's a more general rule (Core page 233):
"Each time after the first that you'd become trained in a given skill, you instead allocate the trained proficiency to any other skill of your choice—though if the skill is a Lore skill, the new skill must also be a Lore skill."
This is true, but the context is important. The way I read it this only applies to the skills you become trained in at 1st level. It could still apply in this case, but not all cases... I think. Honestly, idk. Here's the full paragraph. People can come to whatever conclusion they want:
A character gains training in certain skills at 1st level: typically two skills from their background, a small number of predetermined skills from their class, and several skills of your choice granted by your class. This training increases your proficiency ranks for those skills to trained instead of untrained and lets you use more of the skills' actions. Sometimes you might gain training in a specific skill from multiple sources, such as if your background granted training in Crafting and you took the alchemist class, which also grants training in Crafting. Each time after the first that you would gain the trained proficiency rank in a given skill, you instead allocate the trained proficiency to any other skill of your choice.
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Yeah, at 1st level there is a general rule that if something gives you training in a skill that you are already trained in then you can pick a different skill freely. That is there so that they don't have to explicitly say that you can pick a different skill if already trained on each and every option.
They quite often do explicitly say that for a lot of things because those things are designed to be able to be taken later than 1st level. But there are (or at least potentially may be) some things that give training in a skill that don't allow substitution if you are already trained in that skill. At that point, if you take that option at a level greater than 1st, you would end up with redundant skill training that wouldn't actually affect your character. You could retrain the original skill training to remove the redundancy though. There are probably cases where that would either require quite a bit of retraining or may even be impossible to keep everything that you already have. Most notably if you have other feats that depend on the skill training and are taken at a lower level than the new ability that is granting the skill training.