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I'm seeing reports and complaints about errors with the new system popping up across multiple Forums and multiple threads, and thought it might be best to consolidate them into one location so that Leadership and the Web Team can eventually get down to addressing them.
And, rather than risk them getting buried in a bloated thread, I will update them HERE as people post them. I can even link each bullet point to a particular thread if a discussion proves lengthy.
So, what errors have you observed?
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Alex, I think Nefreet is referring to systemic errors. Things that would probably require recoding.
The problem with e-mailing the errors to you is that it’s kind of a black box. With a public-facing list, we wouldn’t keep sending your the same issues phrased in slightly different ways.
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My table count seems to be back to normal now, so that's good.
I didn't know that about Into the Unknown. I ran it a ton at Emerald City Comic Con several years back as a demo, and was given 1 table credit for every 4 hours I ran it because of what you mentioned. Kind of a bummer to get penalized for trying to do the right thing. Doesn't really matter much now as I am around 170 tables, but it does explain partially why I lost tables last year.
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Maybe they can get some of the credit back by doing something like 1 GM credit per unique calendrer day. So if you ran it at a con and were repeating each part separately as people were coming and going, while there's 4/5 reports its still one table credit. (Still fails if you're running the full version multiple times in a day at a con/game day). Its not perfect, but better than just saying no credit.
Only mentioning that since we had to figure out a solution for how RPGConAssist counts GM blocks. And since tables are tied to convention blocks (rather than days), it made it easier to figure out when multiple reports of the same PFS1/SFS Quest pack or PACS Special should be folded into a single 'Full Block' credit, rather than treated as multiple 1/2 block credits.
Since Paizo doesn't have sub-day granularity it doesn't work as well...
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Suggestion, this isn't an "error" per se:
Get rid of the auto-fill for a character's faction.
I've reported a half-dozen issues on one character where the faction I was championing was reported incorrectly. In each case it was reported as SS:LE rather than the faction I had actually championed (varied). Luwazi Elsebo was the faction for the very first scenario reported for this character, and therefore that's what autofills. I can't verify it, but I highly suspect the reason for the error is that the reporters saw LE autofill and just left it rather than manually comparing to the sign-in sheet.
The auto-fill has been around since the early days of PFS1 - when it was impossible to change your character's faction. It was a time-saver then, but now it is taking a lot of correction time. (Not to mention preventing you from buying boons with Rep requirements until it is corrected.)
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Suggestion, this isn't an "error" per se:
Get rid of the auto-fill for a character's faction.
I've reported a half-dozen issues on one character where the faction I was championing was reported incorrectly. In each case it was reported as SS:LE rather than the faction I had actually championed (varied). Luwazi Elsebo was the faction for the very first scenario reported for this character, and therefore that's what autofills. I can't verify it, but I highly suspect the reason for the error is that the reporters saw LE autofill and just left it rather than manually comparing to the sign-in sheet.
The auto-fill has been around since the early days of PFS1 - when it was impossible to change your character's faction. It was a time-saver then, but now it is taking a lot of correction time. (Not to mention preventing you from buying boons with Rep requirements until it is corrected.)
I just reported about six adventures worth of incorrectly reported credit on Dragonbot. I started with Jadnura for the replays, then changed to Exo-Guardians after I hit Tier 2, and didn't change it on the website until much later. Even though it was correctly Exo-Guardians on my chronicle sheets, by the time it hit reporting it converted back to Jadnura.
I wondered why that happened and came to the same conclusion as you.
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When I change my Faction through my Summary page and report something, the new Faction auto-populates.
1. That is good information, I did not know that.
2. I don't want to change my faction. There are quite a few reasons why you might want to support another faction temporarily.-a. Want to reach Tier 1 or 2 for a specific faction boon.
-b. Briefing suggests supporting a particular faction.
-c. Have reached 45 Fame with primary faction.
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I suspect you already know this but just in case it new to you/someone else reading:
"2. I don't want to change my faction. There are quite a few reasons why you might want to support another faction temporarily.
-a. Want to reach Tier 1 or 2 for a specific faction boon.
-b. Briefing suggests supporting a particular faction.
-c. Have reached 45 Fame with primary faction."
-a: yup that makes total sense for a 1-2 scenario change, and not one that you probably want to switch back and forth within Paizo's site.
-b: This is one I don't really understand -- you still get the bonus faction reputation regardless of what faction you're championing. So unless its (a) again, there's no reason to temporarily change faction. I do see a lot of players confused and thinknig they have to champion the bonus faction to get the reputation, but that's just not the case.
-c: Wouldn't you want to switch for all future missions at that point, so you should update the default faction for the character?
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I suspect you already know this but just in case it new to you/someone else reading:
"2. I don't want to change my faction. There are quite a few reasons why you might want to support another faction temporarily.
-a. Want to reach Tier 1 or 2 for a specific faction boon.
-b. Briefing suggests supporting a particular faction.
-c. Have reached 45 Fame with primary faction."-a: yup that makes total sense for a 1-2 scenario change, and not one that you probably want to switch back and forth within Paizo's site.
-b: This is one I don't really understand -- you still get the bonus faction reputation regardless of what faction you're championing. So unless its (a) again, there's no reason to temporarily change faction. I do see a lot of players confused and thinknig they have to champion the bonus faction to get the reputation, but that's just not the case.
-c: Wouldn't you want to switch for all future missions at that point, so you should update the default faction for the character?
b) It can be thematic. Many of us don't really play this way, but scenarios occasionally have a line in the finalizing boons portion to the effect of "this scenario is important to the Exo-Guardians, you should consider championing them" I know several players who do just that for roleplaying reasons.
c) Mainly thematic again. Just because you reached 45 Reputation with Dataphiles and want to get Reputation with another faction doesn't mean you don't still consider Dataphiles your first choice. (It changes the icon for your character on the messageboard.)
We can discuss whether or not those reasons are poor reasons in another thread. This thread is for ACP/Boon/Reputation errors. The original point was "Hey, can we get rid of the autofill? I have had to make an awful lot of requests for corrections because reporters aren't checking the sheet."
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Cannot report extra reputation for Gameplay Objective boons (such as Purveyor of Fortunes).
I found a workaround for this one as well but it is quite literally a work-around. And you can only do it if you meet a particular set of circumstances.
If you:
1. Have GMed a previous session where your character championed the faction whose Gameplay Objective you are checking off -and-
2. Are the reporter (or can contact the reporter) for that session
You can increase your GM rep in that previous session from 2 to 3. It's totally bad data but at least it gives you the right Rep total and lets you buy faction boons that you should be qualified for.
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I would hesitate to fix it that way -- for PFS2 there do have a 'special' scenario you can report against to fix reputation issue (mainly used for the start at level 2 or 3 playtest boons), an I would imagine they'll provide something similar for SFS.
If you're on the cusp of exactly qualifying for something and don't want to wait for them to get appropriate tech, it does sound like a work around you could use, but I would suggest keeping track of them to revert once a better fix is available.