I forget it doesn't do that natively :D I align grids with one click and use arrow keys to stretch pixel by pixel. Takes a few seconds if you didn't use the importer.
May I ask what module you use to stretch the map in Foundry?
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Used Roll20 for some games for about 2 years until the summer of the pandemic when I decided to try out Foundry. The quality difference between them is so massive I can't adequately describe it. It's in contention for the best $50 I've ever spent.
Like, from a player perspective the pf2e plugin is so smooth to build and level up characters, drag and drop loot from the latest adventures/source books very quickly after they come out, and to connect without worrying about roll20's servers going down (Granted, now we need to worry about the GM/host's connection going down but that would shut down the game regardless).
And from a GM perspective running 3 concurrent weekly games for a few months, the amount of pre-built drag-and-drop creatures, items, abilities, spells with built-in damage buttons, status effects for tokens that apply the modifiers automatically across the creatures stats and that offer short reminder descriptions makes Foundry a great choice.
Maybe the best thing is how the plugin is open source and how active the creators are with the community on their discord and on their repo here. I cannot recommend Foundry too highly, just an exceptionally quality experience.
Same opnion here ... for me , and i dont want to be rude , there is no discussion ... Foundry is by far the best VTT for Pathfinder 2e.
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I forget it doesn't do that natively :D I align grids with one click and use arrow keys to stretch pixel by pixel. Takes a few seconds if you didn't use the importer.May I ask what module you use to stretch the map in Foundry?
You don't need a module for that you can import the map as a tile and stretch it
Ah that'll be why I didn't really get what Ediwir was saying. I don't use my main map images as tiles. Will probably stick to my method of editing Paizo maps (because I'm used to it) but if I'm doing something quick in a pinch I'll remember that!You don't need a module for that you can import the map as a tile and stretch itI forget it doesn't do that natively :D I align grids with one click and use arrow keys to stretch pixel by pixel. Takes a few seconds if you didn't use the importer.May I ask what module you use to stretch the map in Foundry?
You can also stretch the grid using the 'grid configuration tool' in foundry. When you create a scene, the scene config menu has a section on grid configuration. There's a button with two rulers on it that brings up the tool, and you can use the arrow keys to stretch the grid. It won't work if you need a different grid size on one part of the map compared to another, but otherwise should do the trick.
A bit late but, for making scenes and foundry and getting the map to align, I've found that if you count the tiles of the map, so get the width and height, and then change the image size to match it works perfectly.
And example would be you have a map that is 25x25 tiles. Change the image side to 2500x2500, and upload it to Foundry and it should fit perfectly on a 100 size grid. If you have a larger map, you can easily cut the dimensions in half, so the 2500x2500 would be 1250x1250, and change the grid from 100 to 50.
Of course, changing image sizes can cause loss of quality, so use an image upscale tool first if you can.
A bit late but, for making scenes and foundry and getting the map to align, I've found that if you count the tiles of the map, so get the width and height, and then change the image size to match it works perfectly.
And example would be you have a map that is 25x25 tiles. Change the image side to 2500x2500, and upload it to Foundry and it should fit perfectly on a 100 size grid. If you have a larger map, you can easily cut the dimensions in half, so the 2500x2500 would be 1250x1250, and change the grid from 100 to 50.
Of course, changing image sizes can cause loss of quality, so use an image upscale tool first if you can.
Good advice, though I believe the problem folks were mentioning was that some maps published by Paizo have irregular "squares" for whatever reason. So without adjusting the image more directly and making the underlying grid square it is impossible to properly align a grid.
Good advice, though I believe the problem folks were mentioning was that some maps published by Paizo have irregular "squares" for whatever reason. So without adjusting the image more directly and making the underlying grid square it is impossible to properly align a grid.A bit late but, for making scenes and foundry and getting the map to align, I've found that if you count the tiles of the map, so get the width and height, and then change the image size to match it works perfectly.
And example would be you have a map that is 25x25 tiles. Change the image side to 2500x2500, and upload it to Foundry and it should fit perfectly on a 100 size grid. If you have a larger map, you can easily cut the dimensions in half, so the 2500x2500 would be 1250x1250, and change the grid from 100 to 50.
Of course, changing image sizes can cause loss of quality, so use an image upscale tool first if you can.
I use this tool to help with that. Despite being on the FG site, it's a standalone application.
A bit late but, for making scenes and foundry and getting the map to align, I've found that if you count the tiles of the map, so get the width and height, and then change the image size to match it works perfectly.
And example would be you have a map that is 25x25 tiles. Change the image side to 2500x2500, and upload it to Foundry and it should fit perfectly on a 100 size grid. If you have a larger map, you can easily cut the dimensions in half, so the 2500x2500 would be 1250x1250, and change the grid from 100 to 50.
Of course, changing image sizes can cause loss of quality, so use an image upscale tool first if you can.
You can also just upload it to Foundry and then change it to 2500x2500. It's in map settings.
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I'm bit confused by your post which is umm... Bit rambling and not really sure what is your "the other option" you mentioned?
Like if your issue is "why should I subscribe to paizo when all other systems work just as fine for my group" well that is valid point assuming your group doesn't want to go back to 2e pathfinder. But the thing I'm confused by is that some of those systems you listed are MORE complicated than 1e pathfinder and none of them have roll20 modules either so umm...
...If you are fine with prepping call of cthulhu, rogue traders and traveller campaigns in roll20, why wouldn't you be fine with 2e considering that is easier system to prep?
(I also get feeling you are asking why paizo isn't investing more to roll20 when they arrangement is that roll20 is the one who does work into roll20 stuff. So its more on roll20 if they don't adapt adventures on schedule)
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I'm bit confused by your post which is umm... Bit rambling and not really sure what is your "the other option" you mentioned?
Like if your issue is "why should I subscribe to paizo when all other systems work just as fine for my group" well that is valid point assuming your group doesn't want to go back to 2e pathfinder. But the thing I'm confused by is that some of those systems you listed are MORE complicated than 1e pathfinder and none of them have roll20 modules either so umm...
...If you are fine with prepping call of cthulhu, rogue traders and traveller campaigns in roll20, why wouldn't you be fine with 2e considering that is easier system to prep?
(I also get feeling you are asking why paizo isn't investing more to roll20 when they arrangement is that roll20 is the one who does work into roll20 stuff. So its more on roll20 if they don't adapt adventures on schedule)
The world is filled with two types of people: those who can extrapolate from incomplete information.
Having actually played those games on roll20, they're not more complicated. 5E is much better supported, the others are more "theatre of the mind" games and are much less crunchy. They don't require anywhere near the same level of effort.
Call of Cthulhu is well supported too, which is probably why that roll20 stats show that twice as many people play it as PF1, PF2 and SF combined.
Roll20 don't invest in Pathfinder, because people do what I'm doing and play something else. They don't lose customers, because people still want to play.
Chaosium do their own work for roll20 and the Call of Cthulhu support is great.
Cubicle 7 do their own work for roll20 and WFRP support is pretty good.
Evil Hat do their own work for roll20 and their support is great.
Free League publishing do their own work for roll20 and support for Alien and Kids on Bikes is... <please extrapolate from a pattern and incomplete information>.
Paizo rely on roll20 who do a half-assed job on their behalf.
;P Should I be insulted?
Hey, I'd be happy to do Paizo's and Roll20's job of adapting modules to roll20, if I was paid for it ;D
I guess I can see how battlemaps would increase prep time a lot yeah
I don't use Roll20 because Roll20 has so many problems as a platform.
This is completely unrelated to their Pathfinder support, though their incredibly mediocre PF2 support simply exacerbates the problem. It was bad in playtest (to the point where you literally had to figure out their text parsing system to make it function) and it's improved to mediocre.
Chaosium do their own work for roll20 and the Call of Cthulhu support is great.Cubicle 7 do their own work for roll20 and WFRP support is pretty good.
Evil Hat do their own work for roll20 and their support is great.
Can you say a bit more about this? What work are you referring to? (And where did you read about them providing this support?)
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I don't blame Paizo for the poor sales for Pathfinder 2e on Roll20. I place the blame entirely on Roll20 for the poor support they've placed on the character sheet and features.
The character sheet was rushed out for launch, looks butt-ugly, still doesn't have 100% drag-and-drop support almost 2 years in, took them 1 1/2 years to separate the degrees of success from saving throw spells in the spell section, there's no real Alchemist support, they've dropped doing Age of Ashes with no sign of them going back, no sign of them doing Abomination Vaults, and they could be using the images from the Pawn Collections of the past 2 Bestiaries, but they've chosen not to and Aasimars will forever continue to look like Duskwalkers for their associated tokens.
Oh, and ZERO interest in porting over the Lost Omens books, despite over half of the ancestry options being in that line of books. 'Cause it's "too much flavor".
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Which didn't them adapting Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide <_<
Anyway, yeah, I do believe that roll20's pathfinder support is half assed, heck, I think their D&D support might be bit half assed as well though to lesser extend :p
I don't think sheet is that bad though as people keep saying since its still functional sheet and I don't believe sheets need to automatize everything if its simple calculation easy to do in head.
(that said they definitely could do it if they bothered better :p I don't think foundry VTT is godsend of gaming though, due to reasons like IT KEEPS CRASHING MY GPU AAAAH xD)
Which didn't them adapting Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide <_<
Anyway, yeah, I do believe that roll20's pathfinder support is half assed, heck, I think their D&D support might be bit half assed as well though to lesser extend :p
I don't think sheet is that bad though as people keep saying since its still functional sheet and I don't believe sheets need to automatize everything if its simple calculation easy to do in head.
(that said they definitely could do it if they bothered better :p I don't think foundry VTT is godsend of gaming though, due to reasons like IT KEEPS CRASHING MY GPU AAAAH xD)
Out of curiosity, what's your GPU? We're running foundry in my group and no one is using a machine with a dedicated GPU, one person is even using a chrome book, and surprisingly it's worked better than other tabletops like Astral.
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I've been using Foundry for almost a year to run 5e. The group got tired of 5e and WotC, so we're moving to Pathfinder 2e. I have found the Pathfinder community there to be a dream. The system module was easy to set up. The PDF importer (which only works with watermarked, legitimate PDFS that I paid for) worked great to set up Abomination Vaults.
For me, Foundry has been a fantastic solution. Would I pay money for an official system module from Paizo? Yes. But I am very happy with what is there already.
I like physical books. I've dropped a few hundred dollars on Paizo books during this process, even though I could get everything (except the adventure) for free. Their business model has worked for them thus far; I'm sure it will continue to do so.
Welcome to the Pathfinder community! :3
And yeah, Foundry has been great.
Can you say a bit more about this? What work are you referring to? (And where did you read about them providing this support?)
Chaosium do their own work for roll20 and the Call of Cthulhu support is great.Cubicle 7 do their own work for roll20 and WFRP support is pretty good.
Evil Hat do their own work for roll20 and their support is great.
Roll20 have a marketplace where anyone can sell content. All those companies make RPGs, they then make their own matching content for Roll20 and sell it in the store. They're not alone there, lots of companies do it - like Pinnacle and Son of Oak. Lots of indy developers do it too, selling 5E supplements and add-ons.
The products that these companies put out are what you need to play their games on roll20.
Roll20 doesn't do this work for them. There's lots of documentation in how to do it, and in fact, if you go onto the roll20 forums you'll find that there are people there who do work for hire creating and converting content. Paizo and WotC **seem** to be unique in that they rely on Roll20 to do it for them. Roll20 do a great job for WotC and a poor job for Paizo.
I have no insights into sales, contracts, agreements or if these companies make any money out of this. Maybe it doesn't make sense for Paizo to do this. They're experts in their business, not me. But, it doesn't make sense for me to give them $3000 per year for books, figures, maps and cards I'll never use. When they're calculating the cost of doing this work, I'd hope they'd include the cost of not doing it. Maybe that's why these other companies invested time and money in making their games available online. I honestly don't know.
Due to a lot more interest in Paizo and specifically 2e, old threads are getting attention, especially ones like this.
One of my players shared this to me asking about VTT's and using it as an argument against Paizo/Pathfinder. Even early 2021, FG and Foundry were both good ways to play Pathfinder 1e & 2e, and Starfinder.
I played a full campaign with FG using Starfinder and the level of automation and access to character creation tools was leaps beyond roll20's outdated and basic features. FG is clunky though and I switched to Foundry and never looked back.
Roll20 is better than Foundry only in its ability to sell official 5e products.
Saying there are not good options for Pathfinder/Starfinder in VTT, even in early 2021, is a flat out lie. FG and Foundry for for Starfinder/Pathfinder were, and still are, both better than roll20's 5e support.
(I used roll20 for years, then FG, and now Foundry. The only purchases I regret are the roll20 ones. Broken PHB features that were promised when it launched are STILL missing or not working as advertised, several years later. They even refused to refund me within a week of purchase despite the product not having even 50% of the features they promised; top guys!)
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Just an FYI: About two months ago, I got about a refund from Roll20 for the PF2 core rulebook, by complaining about the STILL ADVERTISED charactermancer that is not done after more than 3 years. It wasn't a full refund -- I think they kept about $15, which I won't complain about because it accounts for the CRB PDF I got in conjunction with the original purchase from Roll20. So if you purchased PF2 books from ROll20 and aren't cool with the promised support that never materialized, you might try to get some money back.