vhok |
to be more specific moving into someones square provokes, this is totally separate from movement provoke 5foot steps do not prevent it. if you move and provoke and enter their square you provoke again for a total of 2. this is not considered the same thing can't provoke twice because 1 is from movement and 1 is from entering the square.
Hugo Rune |
to be more specific moving into someones square provokes, this is totally separate from movement provoke 5foot steps do not prevent it. if you move and provoke and enter their square you provoke again for a total of 2. this is not considered the same thing can't provoke twice because 1 is from movement and 1 is from entering the square.
I know that's a rule, but I don't like it if the usual combat scale is with less than S/M creatures. Change the default scale to 2.5' or 1.25' and run the larger creatures as L/H or bigger as appropriate.
MrCharisma |
to be more specific moving into someones square provokes, this is totally separate from movement provoke 5foot steps do not prevent it. if you move and provoke and enter their square you provoke again for a total of 2. this is not considered the same thing can't provoke twice because 1 is from movement and 1 is from entering the square.
Are you sure about this? I've always played it as only provoking once (though it wouod still provoke on a 5-foot-step etc etc).
My Bloodrager with a Ssarmbane Clasp would love it if you're right but we've never done it that way.
vhok |
vhok wrote:to be more specific moving into someones square provokes, this is totally separate from movement provoke 5foot steps do not prevent it. if you move and provoke and enter their square you provoke again for a total of 2. this is not considered the same thing can't provoke twice because 1 is from movement and 1 is from entering the square.Are you sure about this? I've always played it as only provoking once (though it wouod still provoke on a 5-foot-step etc etc).
My Bloodrager with a Ssarmbane Clasp would love it if you're right but we've never done it that way.
it seems it has been FAQ'd since i last looked and they ruled it the other way. i will have to let my group know as we have tiny size players.
we always said it was a different thing that provokes because if even a 5foot step provokes its not the movement that is provoking its the entering of the square otherwise a 5foot step would not provoke.
Scott Wilhelm |
It seems the reason for entering opponents's squares depends a lot on what abilities you use to achieve it.
The Mouser Swashbuckler Archetype give you the ability to enter opponents' squares. You are considered Flanking with any adjacent ally. Your Opponent suffers a -4 on Attacks.
The Monkey Shine Feat gives you a +4 on all attacks and a +4 Dodge Bonus to AC.