Fireball and carrying unconscious people


Rules Questions


Hello,

If you are carrying an unconscious or tied up person and someone hits both of you with a fireball, does the unconscious person get a reflex save or can you make a reflex save for him.

Like if you were carrying a sack of potatoes and someone hits you with a fireball you can protect your potatoes ( a man has gotta eat) #DontBurnThePotatoes.

And an unconscious man is basically a sack of potatoes (both in sack like qualities and in meal potential for those inclined) #BadJokes.

Liberty's Edge

1) An unconscious or tied up person makes his save as normal, with all the appropriate modifiers (Dex 0, possibly prone, etc.).

2) Being carried by others doesn't change that.

Let's make a different example: the gnome wizard can be carried by the rogue (assuming that the rogue has enough carrying capacity) to benefit from evasion and improved evasion?
Barring specific class abilities, riders benefit from their mount saves or evasion ability?

The answer to both questions is no.

Shadow Lodge

but if you fireball an unconscious rogue, they reflexively flop out of the way, taking no damage at all.


We had a game where this came up and the GM ruled we could forgo our own reflex save in order to make a reflex save for the person we're carrying (uning our bonuses, not theirs). The person being carried got the benefit of Evasion for this save. This represented our characters shielding their bodies with our own.

It's worth noting that there were 3 Paladins and a Cleric in this game though, so we has 10,000% healing capabilities. Something a little less harsh on the players might work better for most groups.

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