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But no where does it state that you need to already be multiclassed. At least that is how I read it. Wanting you to already be multiclassed would likely be a prereq, rather than text within the feat.Well it’s definitely not a prerequisite, but you can only gain a second multiclass dedication if you already have exactly one. So by strict reading you can rake it without a multiclass dedication, but you gain no benefit until you take one.
Multitalented doesn't say that "You gain a 2nd multiclass dedication feat” it says that "You gain a 2nd-level multiclass dedication feat.” It could be your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd multiclass dedication feat so long as it is a 2nd-level feat. (And currently all multiclass dedications are 2nd-level.)
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Multitalented doesn't say that you "You gain a 2nd multiclass dedication feat” it says that "You gain a 2nd-level multiclass dedication feat.”Wow. I think I’ve misread that about fifteen times. Thank you.
You're welcome. :)
For the record, I read it the wrong way at first, too.
In fairness, the game rules aren't exactly natural laws, as we have examples of heritages changing- another elf feat called Wandering Heart heavily suggests that Elves can naturally change between the elf heritages over the course of long periods of time to adapt to their environment.
Well, "in fairness" I should point out that that would make ancient elf a heritage you don't take starting out but one that you switch into and that makes it's benefits fairly worthless on top of costing a 13th level feat to take a 2nd level multiclass feat and having to wait until you're old enough to do it. Secondly, when you have to "spend[snip] a week in an environment associated with an elf heritage", what exactly is one that fits an ancient elf? Again, is it the elf old folks home? Being old isn't an environment.
PS: that also brings up the issue of swapping out ancient if you've taken any other feats in the line as the dedication is the requirement for the rest, making the Wandering Heart a truly dead feat for those that swap into ancient elf to make multiclassing easier.
In fairness, the game rules aren't exactly natural laws, as we have examples of heritages changing- another elf feat called Wandering Heart heavily suggests that Elves can naturally change between the elf heritages over the course of long periods of time to adapt to their environment.Well, "in fairness" I should point out that that would make ancient elf a heritage you don't take starting out but one that you switch into and that makes it's benefits fairly worthless on top of costing a 13th level feat to take a 2nd level multiclass feat and having to wait until you're old enough to do it. Secondly, when you have to "spend[snip] a week in an environment associated with an elf heritage", what exactly is one that fits an ancient elf? Again, is it the elf old folks home? Being old isn't an environment.
PS: that also brings up the issue of swapping out ancient if you've taken any other feats in the line as the dedication is the requirement for the rest, making the Wandering Heart a truly dead feat for those that swap into ancient elf to make multiclassing easier.
Uh, you missed my point, the post wasn't about Wandering Heart allowing you to switch into Ancient Elf (it calls out that it doesn't) I was illustrating that your definition of heritage isn't something the game adheres to in 100% of cases, and Wandering Heart is an example because it mentions that elves normally adapt to their environment, but this lets you do it much faster (a week) and since the effect involves your heritage switching it's reasonable to think that a cavern elf who goes off to live in the snowy north, would at some point become an arctic elf, naturally altering their heritage and that this process is what the feat is speeding up.
Specifically in this case, we can deduce that an elf who reaches a certain amount of lived experience, consistent with a number of years experience greater than that which can be achieved with other ancestries likely loses their normal heritage (lets say, their elemental adaptation, or natural ability to detect magic) to old age, and instead gains the benefits of Ancient Elf.
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I mean, in theory an "Ancient Elf" who starts the campaign at say, 150 years of age, was alive and doing stuff when they were 25, so one wonders what their heritage was then.
But before that individual was a player character, they were an NPC and NPCs don't need to have things like "heritages" or "strength scores" when it doesn't matter.