Superman & Lois


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CW just revealed a pilot is ordered for Superman & Lois show.


Well, that may eliminate the possibility of a gender-reversed Crisis #7 cover in this year's crossover, with Supergirl holding a slain Superman.

I didn't find Elizabeth Tulloch's Lois Lane to be remotely compelling, and I'm certainly not looking forward to Superbaby. (The couple were last seen headed for Argo City, IIRC so that Lois could have a half Kryptonian baby outside of a yellow sun environment...or am I making up the pregnancy?)

Also, on that same article's note of a series in development for Arrow: The Next Generation...pass. I don't find that bunch interesting, and I'm finding the current batch of flash forwards to be pointless.

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You're remembering right. I expect Crisis will have mention that baby was born (it's about a year later). I think if they focus on super parent life and not as much on super baby, things will be fine.

I actually liked Tulloch's Lois, but she didn't have much to do in the last cross over other than be introduced. She reminded me of the Margot Kidder Lois from the Christopher Reeves movies.

Agree on not being excited about Arrow: Flashforward, but I don't hate the idea, just not especially excited about it. It would make for fun semi-regular crossovers with Legends though when they pop into the future (if they do that ever again).

Still waiting for a Diggle/Green Lantern spin off announcement after Crisis.

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Damon Griffin wrote:
Well, that may eliminate the possibility of a gender-reversed Crisis #7 cover in this year's crossover, with Supergirl holding a slain Superman.

I don't know if there was any indication they'd do it at all, but I have heard that Crisis is going to get ssuuuuuper (no pun intended) crisisy, with the effort to bring in not just the heroes of these shows but also characters from other DC Extended Universe offerings. For example, Brandon Routh is apparently going to reprise his role as Superman from "Superman Returns" (in addition to playing his CWTV role of Ray "Atom" Palmer).

So they could recreate that scene with Routh in the role of Superman, while Earth-38 Superman remains safe. (Or do it with Hoechlin, but have it be a different Superman.)

I've also heard that Ashley Scott is going to show up as the Huntress (Helena Kyle, a version of Helena Wayne) from the 2002 Birds of Prey series (which opens up that Rachel Skarsten may cameo as Dinah Lance from that series as well as Alice of Gotham).

We just know it means Earth-38 Supes will likely be safe.

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I didn't find Elizabeth Tulloch's Lois Lane to be remotely compelling, and I'm certainly not looking forward to Superbaby. (The couple were last seen headed for Argo City, IIRC so that Lois could have a half Kryptonian baby outside of a yellow sun environment...or am I making up the pregnancy?)

Aw, I liked her Lois. I'm not very keen on a "Superfamily" sort of series personally, but I like that they are trying something different. I wouldn't want it to have a lot of the same beats Supergirl does, for example. And one of the best CW shows IMO is Black Lightning and part of its great strength is the family focus, so maybe they can do something good with that, although obviously with a very different set of heroes and setting. And the old "Lois and Clark" TV show was very popular, so I expect if they get what was right from that series they could have something that would win some loyal viewers. I may not watch a whole lot of it myself but I wish it good luck.

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Also, on that same article's note of a series in development for Arrow: The Next Generation...pass. I don't find that bunch interesting, and I'm finding the current batch of flash forwards to be pointless.

If "Canaries" or something like it had been announced three years ago I would have been psyched. But sadly Arrow and anything that directly stems from it long ago lost my goodwill. I did catch an episode or three last season and while it was better than it was, say, around season 3 or 4, I agree the flash-forwards were uncompelling and I found the Mia character specifically extremely annoying. As the spinoff would likely center around her, I'll pass.


I didn't like Margot Kidder's Lois Lane in the Chris Reeve movies, but it wasn't Margot's fault. The character had clearly been written to be in line with the take on Lois Lane that persisted prior to the 70's: a hapless "girl reporter" always getting into a jam.

Lois should be treated as Clark's, and in many respects Superman's, equal. I think (though based on solicitation blurbs rather than actual reading of the comics) that she's getting that respect in the comics lately, and perhaps that may hold up in Superman & Lois, though she'll need a role beyond superwife and mother. Their relationship should not be modeled on, say, John and Lyla's, but Lois is a world class investigative reporter with an impressive network of contacts, including military. She has mad skills.

Re: Crisis, I've seen statements that Tom Welling and Erica Durance will appear as Clark & Lois (bring us to 3 Supermen?), Kevin Conroy will be an aged Bruce Wayne, Burt Ward an older Robin...citations of guest appearances are scattered around the 'net. I haven't seen a comprehensive list of guest stars and don't expect to ahead of the broadcast. Starting to wonder if they're going for the "50 heroes who stood at the beginning of time" scene. Just kidding. I think.

Re: Arrow:Flashforward, I wanted to like Mia, but yeah: annoying. And most of the others just boring. Plus I'm just not very concerned about what's happening in Star/ling City 20 years from now.

Re: Black Lightning. Yes, it continues to be very good, although I'm starting to tire of the Markovian storyline. It's one of very few shows my wife watches; Batwoman is hanging by a thread (and that thread is Mary, otherwise she'd already be out.)


I'd like to point out that while, yes, Brandon Routh is going to don the trunks and cape, it's not as HIS Superman...or if it is, it's one more similar to Kingdom Come Superman history. Which is VERY different from what we saw in the movie. But just thought I'd toss that out there.

With regards to "super-baby" I'm convinced if they pull of Jon Kent in the comics without super aging him, Super baby can indeed fill in soon for pre-teen Jon Kent who MIGHT go adventuring with a now freelancing Talia Al'Ghul's /Batman's kid...

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You got a source for that Thomas, or are you presenting fan speculation as fact?

I admit I assumed he was reprising his role, simply by dint of his being asked to play it at all.

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I hope the new Lois isn't always a damsel in distress like she was in Lois & Clark.

I would like to see Brandon Routh, Dean Cain, Tom Welling, Gerard Christopher and John Newton reprise their roles as The Man of Steel for Crisis. And if they could work in archival footage, I would also like to see Christopher Reeve and George Reeves.


Charles Scholz wrote:
I would like to see Brandon Routh, Dean Cain, Tom Welling, Gerard Christopher and John Newton reprise their roles as The Man of Steel for Crisis. And if they could work in archival footage, I would also like to see Christopher Reeve and George Reeves.

That would be awesome; maybe also Kirk Alyn from the serials. But they'd probably have to be really brief shots, little more than watching a half dozen worlds die in rapid succession, as indicated by a parade of disintegrating Supermen.


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You got a source for that Thomas, or are you presenting fan speculation as fact?

Indeed I do!

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Damon Griffin wrote:
Charles Scholz wrote:
I would like to see Brandon Routh, Dean Cain, Tom Welling, Gerard Christopher and John Newton reprise their roles as The Man of Steel for Crisis. And if they could work in archival footage, I would also like to see Christopher Reeve and George Reeves.
That would be awesome; maybe also Kirk Alyn from the serials. But they'd probably have to be really brief shots, little more than watching a half dozen worlds die in rapid succession, as indicated by a parade of disintegrating Supermen.

I totally forgot about Kirk Alyn. Thanks for correcting my oversight.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
You got a source for that Thomas, or are you presenting fan speculation as fact?

Indeed I do!

Thanks for the link.

I'll point out that this is an opinion piece that simply points out that his costume looks like the one from Kingdom Come.

Yes, it could mean he's a Kingdom Come-like character. It could also mean that they just used that comic as a visual reference for what an older Superman looks like.

I'm sorry for being pedantic. I'm inclined to be nitpicky as I feel too much rumor gets blended in with what we actually know on these comic fan sites.

Honestly, any possibility of what they're doing with him as Superman is cool.


I'm pretty sure I will be borne out as right for the fact they'll make this SOMEHOW reference Kingdom Come Superman and not Superman Returns. But we'll see.

Regardless when December rolls around I'm sure we'll get greater clarity.

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Dude, it's not about who is right or wrong. If you want to say that's your prediction, cool. I'm just saying please don't present what you (or someone else) think is going to happen as fact before it happens, for the sake of avoiding misinformation. That is all.


Fair enough.

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