We will eventually go to the Moon or Mars. Will someone take RPG's with them?


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Its a bit slow here at work today. While doing my usual stuff, I was thinking about the shelf life of Pathfinder 2E. Its a great rule set and is balanced very well. It got me to thinking how well 1st edition lasted and how long 2e will go.

So is it plausible that on the long trip to Mars someone will break out the rule books in PDF form and use a virtual TT like Fantasy grounds or such and the first game in space will be played?

Do any of the Astronauts on the ISS play such games?


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I don’t know if they do, at present, but I virtually guarantee that some sort of communal game activity that can be done in effectively zero gravity will be completed, and RPGs for that bill pretty well. A few people and some smart tablets = a great way to spend down time with crew mates: it functions as entertainment and team-building exercise simultaneously.

It’s also nice because if they’re in power conservation mode, they can take it non-digital and do things the old fashion way, though if they do, we likely will never see what would be genuinely important artifacts, ‘cause efficiency (and reuse of old materials) would likely be top priority rather than preservation for history. (We might get some low-rez digital shots - such as saved on someone’s personal phone, for instance - but the materials themselves would likely be reused until they were no longer viable.)

In a number of ways, it would be similar to going back to one of humanity’s oldest roots - telling stories around a light source for warmth/survival/companionship - and guarantee, specific RPG or not, some form of that will be a group activity.

Effectively such folks need something to entertain themselves as a social activity that isn’t just, ah... “personal”... and that can be done in various gravities and states off energy, and RPGs are pretty good about such things. They’re also good to preoccupy minds that might be nervous or angry or frustrated.

Of course, such activities are only worthwhile if the people going are actually interested in them. And that is determined on a case-by-case basis.

So I don’t know, but it sure would be a good addition, if the nerds who are interested also happen to be the nerds who enjoy that kind of thing.


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FYI, we have already gone to the moon. ;)


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I presumed "go to Moon/Mars to live" was implied.


EDIT:

ninja'd by Orthos! So... provide a quotes time!

Note, I originally misread Gisher's quote, so... you know. I'll realize that way down the line, though.

Gisher wrote:
FYI, we have already gone to the moon. ;)

Literally-for-real, figuratively, literally-in-fantasy, or figuratively-in-fantasy?

'Cause if it's literally, you're one of a very, very small group...

(Also: oof. I didn't realize Mr. Alan Bean or Mr. John Young had died. Dang it.)

((Also, also, I really should have, but I didn't realize that nearly all the astronauts that went to the moon were born in the 30s; only Mr. Shepherd ['23], Mr. Boreman ['28], Mr. Lovell Jr. ['28], and Mr. Gordon Jr. ['29] were born in a different decade. That also makes Mr. Thomas K. Mattingly II ['36] the "baby" of the lunar astronauts, though Mr. Harrison H. Schmitt or Mr. Charles M. Duke look like they tied for youngest to walk the moon - I don't know what their specific birthdays, so I don't know which is the actual youngest.))

For the record, I'm presupposing you mean this module, which I've heard is a good one!

As an aside, though it's been almost two decades and I may be experiencing memory mis-attribution, I remember a speech I attended when I was relatively young(er) by, I think, Mr. Buzz Aldrin. I was one of the only kids (and I honestly don't know how old I was; it could have been as late as 2000, meaning I was nearly twenty), and I remember the place being crowded by a number of serious-looking adults. At one point in the speech, he suggested that he had something that he wasn't supposed to (that NASA didn't approve of) - a moonrock. He then showed us a rock with a Barbie doll's butt glued to it, and noted, rather cheekily^ "This is a moon rock - and you have all been mooned." It was about the best thing I'd ever seen in my life. I regret that I never got to shake his hand or have him sign something. Missed opportunities.

... and it's here, upon re-reading your post, that I see you said,

Quote:
FYI, we have

... and not,

Quote:
FYI, I have

... WELP.

My bad.

Normal people would delete everything and save face and keep their dignity, but, eh, I burned that bridge a long time ago, so here we are~!

EDIT 2:

Orthos wrote:
I presumed "go to Moon/Mars to live" was implied.

Also, HYPE THE EVER-LOVIN' CRAP OUTTA 2024~!!!!!

EDIT 3: ^ yes, I went back to put this pun in. Because heeeeeeehehehehehe


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Orthos wrote:
I presumed "go to Moon/Mars to live" was implied.

Me too. I was being silly. Thus my wink emoticon.


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If I have to leave earth I am taking my games, manga, anime, comics, and porn with me.


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Tacticslion wrote:
It’s also nice because if they’re in power conservation mode, they can take it non-digital and do things the old fashion way, though if they do, we likely will never see what would be genuinely important artifacts, ‘cause efficiency (and reuse of old materials) would likely be top priority rather than preservation for history. (We might get some low-rez digital shots - such as saved on someone’s personal phone, for instance - but the materials themselves would likely be reused until they were no longer viable.)

I'm trying to figure out how throwing dices in Zero-G would work.

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Ensign 5th Account wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
It’s also nice because if they’re in power conservation mode, they can take it non-digital and do things the old fashion way, though if they do, we likely will never see what would be genuinely important artifacts, ‘cause efficiency (and reuse of old materials) would likely be top priority rather than preservation for history. (We might get some low-rez digital shots - such as saved on someone’s personal phone, for instance - but the materials themselves would likely be reused until they were no longer viable.)
I'm trying to figure out how throwing dices in Zero-G would work.

I'm imagening a magnecit whiteboard and magnetic dice. Just throw them at the board softly with a spin, and your number is however the dice get stuck to the whiteboard.

Minis could also have a magnetic base to stick to the whiteboard which would then also function as a map.

I am envisioning playing starfinder in space now.


That's fantastic!

I was actually envisioning as "two people choose a number and add; wrap around if it exceeds the maximum." But the idea of magnetic dice in zero-g space is lovely.


(Also a better randomizer.)

One edition is something like a "dice castle" effect, though just a big tube would work well enough for this, I'd guess.


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It isn't really "we will eventually go to the moon or mars" it should be "we will eventually go to the moon and mars".

Especially given that colonizing mars more or less requires that we have a colony on the moon to act as a staging area.


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Not sure magnetic dices would work, but the magnetic board could.

Tender Tendrils wrote:

It isn't really "we will eventually go to the moon or mars" it should be "we will eventually go to the moon and mars".

Especially given that colonizing mars more or less requires that we have a colony on the moon to act as a staging area.

Hopefully, before we are done turning Earth into a wasteland.


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If we can't prevent earth from becoming uninhabitable, then we certainly can't make other worlds inhabitable.

But I am optimistic that we will eventually manage both.


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David knott 242 wrote:

If we can't prevent earth from becoming uninhabitable, then we certainly can't make other worlds inhabitable.

But I am optimistic that we will eventually manage both.

Not... teeeeeeeeeeeechnically true.

But if we can't prevent our own extinction by habitat loss, then, yeah, by virtue of being extinct we are precluded from terraforming.

But! Hypothetically, we could start a long-range process or systems to terraform, even if we couldn't live in the area-being-processed until after the process is complete, and thereby allowing us to make other worlds "inhabitable" (by our standards) even while we render our own uninhabitable (because we've given ourselves nowhere to go while we render our current place uninhabitable).

Or, heck, the habitability problems may be entirely unrelated with easier fixes for "b" (such as lacking fresh water, presupposing we can mine the stuff) than "a" (such as a modified ecosystem that really messes with enough things that we currently rely upon to really do anything about if it goes wrong).

But your point is otherwise well-made, and I support you in your optimism. Also Mars is, like, crazy poisonous (pun intended), so we'll need to be able to do something about pollutants in the soil in general before being able to establish long-term habitation there, so... yes. Your point stands.

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...Maybe owlbears were created to help with terraforming...


... I would support this experiment. Er, strictly for SCIENCE, of course...


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Tacticslion wrote:
... I would support this experiment. Er, strictly for SCIENCE, of course...

Hypothesis - Owlbears are just, really cool

Result - Oh no I made a terrible mistake run!


Tender Tendrils wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
... I would support this experiment. Er, strictly for SCIENCE, of course...

Hypothesis - Owlbears are just, really cool

Result - Oh no I made a terrible mistake run!

The result does not actually invalidate the hypothesis - more experimentation seems needed...


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tender Tendrils wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
... I would support this experiment. Er, strictly for SCIENCE, of course...

Hypothesis - Owlbears are just, really cool

Result - Oh no I made a terrible mistake run!
The result does not actually invalidate the hypothesis - more experimentation seems needed...

We seem to run out of researchers that way.


Tender Tendrils wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tender Tendrils wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
... I would support this experiment. Er, strictly for SCIENCE, of course...

Hypothesis - Owlbears are just, really cool

Result - Oh no I made a terrible mistake run!
The result does not actually invalidate the hypothesis - more experimentation seems needed...
We seem to run out of researchers that way.

But that's what the cloning research is for.

(Also D-Class personnel. EDIT: we may even has found a way to replace lost D-class personnel~!)


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tender Tendrils wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Tender Tendrils wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
... I would support this experiment. Er, strictly for SCIENCE, of course...

Hypothesis - Owlbears are just, really cool

Result - Oh no I made a terrible mistake run!
The result does not actually invalidate the hypothesis - more experimentation seems needed...
We seem to run out of researchers that way.

But that's what the cloning research is for.

(Also D-Class personnel. EDIT: we may even has found a way to replace lost D-class personnel~!)

Oh my gosh you have no idea how much I adore Door Monster


We should definitely take them to Mars!

... the videos, I mean.

I don't think Kyle and Alison necessarily want to travel that far.

Besides, Kyle might just rename everyone and open the doors to space. You know.

EDIT: I mean, to be fair, he's right. I use doors all the daggum time in that game. I literally just won a whole thing by leaving my doors open at all times, recently, and using the crystals what kill oxygen everywhere. Fun game. Comes highly recommended.


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Tacticslion wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

If we can't prevent earth from becoming uninhabitable, then we certainly can't make other worlds inhabitable.

But I am optimistic that we will eventually manage both.

Not... teeeeeeeeeeeechnically true.

But if we can't prevent our own extinction by habitat loss, then, yeah, by virtue of being extinct we are precluded from terraforming.

But! Hypothetically, we could start a long-range process or systems to terraform, even if we couldn't live in the area-being-processed until after the process is complete, and thereby allowing us to make other worlds "inhabitable" (by our standards) even while we render our own uninhabitable (because we've given ourselves nowhere to go while we render our current place uninhabitable).

Or, heck, the habitability problems may be entirely unrelated with easier fixes for "b" (such as lacking fresh water, presupposing we can mine the stuff) than "a" (such as a modified ecosystem that really messes with enough things that we currently rely upon to really do anything about if it goes wrong).

But your point is otherwise well-made, and I support you in your optimism. Also Mars is, like, crazy poisonous (pun intended), so we'll need to be able to do something about pollutants in the soil in general before being able to establish long-term habitation there, so... yes. Your point stands.

I was, of course, referring to near term possibilities (such as the premise behind Firefly -- much as I loved that series, the idea that we could lose "Earth that was" to our own folly and yet terraform countless planets in another solar system is absurd) and not bigger things like the inevitable death by overheating of all life on Earth in about a billion years.

And we would have an easier time terraforming planets in our own solar system than in another one since we would have resources from Earth to draw on as we do it. Outside our own solar system, we would have to take everything we need with us on a long one-way trip.


David knott 242 wrote:

I was, of course, referring to near term possibilities (such as the premise behind Firefly -- much as I loved that series, the idea that we could lose "Earth that was" to our own folly and yet terraform countless planets in another solar system is absurd) and not bigger things like the inevitable death by overheating of all life on Earth in about a billion years.

And we would have an easier time terraforming planets in our own solar system than in...

Oh, I know.

That said, the impression given by the Firefly universe was that the Terraforming business was an automated function of distant probes (and often improperly-enacted, hence the reliance upon "all the protean of the rainbow" and rarity of things like strawberries and other fresh produce).

Of course, lots of things didn't make sense in my beloved Firefly (such as travel times to literally anywhere - there wasn't even technobabble to hand-wave the nonsense as "technomagic"... though, depending on your feeling, that may or may not be a benefit... EDIT: and the lack of anyone with visibly-Asian features, despite the fact that Chinese was one of the primary languages due to having half of the people who left supposedly coming from China).

Daggum, I loved that show, though.
(EDIT: and I also love the fact that I can hypothetically learn rudimentary Chinese from the RPG books.)

You can't take the sky from me!

EDIT: we should bring Firefly to Mars, too! Both the RPG and the show.


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Tacticslion wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

I was, of course, referring to near term possibilities (such as the premise behind Firefly -- much as I loved that series, the idea that we could lose "Earth that was" to our own folly and yet terraform countless planets in another solar system is absurd) and not bigger things like the inevitable death by overheating of all life on Earth in about a billion years.

And we would have an easier time terraforming planets in our own solar system than in...

Oh, I know.

That said, the impression given by the Firefly universe was that the Terraforming business was an automated function of distant probes (and often improperly-enacted, hence the reliance upon "all the protean of the rainbow" and rarity of things like strawberries and other fresh produce).

Of course, lots of things didn't make sense in my beloved Firefly (such as travel times to literally anywhere - there wasn't even technobabble to hand-wave the nonsense as "technomagic"... though, depending on your feeling, that may or may not be a benefit... EDIT: and the lack of anyone with visibly-Asian features, despite the fact that Chinese was one of the primary languages due to having half of the people who left supposedly coming from China).

Daggum, I loved that show, though.
(EDIT: and I also love the fact that I can hypothetically learn rudimentary Chinese from the RPG books.)

You can't take the sky from me!

EDIT: we should bring Firefly to Mars, too! Both the RPG and the show.

loads shotgun

Over my dead body.


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Well, that would be one way of transporting people easily, so long as we have resuscitation tech.


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Undead astronauts followed by undead colonists would seem to greatly decrease the resources needed (food, water, oxygen, radiation shielding, other safety concerns, etc.)


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Dr. Hans Reinhardt wrote:
Undead astronauts followed by undead colonists would seem to greatly decrease the resources needed (food, water, oxygen, radiation shielding, other safety concerns, etc.)

But they might not have any reason to leave in the first place either.


The real question, of course, is will we take them to Venus? :D

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