Lost Omens HellKnight Armiger

[NA Palm]

I've found that a lot of people who dislike LGBT people perceive all romantic feelings between non-hetero people as inherently sexual for some reason.

It's like, they want to call them perverts, but who is the more perverted one, someone who loves someone who is the same gender as them, or someone who can't think about two people loving each other that are the same gender without equating it to sex?

[Justinian9]

Rysky wrote:

How does getting two people to go on a date = we're gonna have a sex scene play out???

Edit: I actually went and read that part, it's not even that, you're just getting them to admit their fillings for each other. Where are you getting sex from?

Where am I getting sex from, they cannot directly say group sex but what is this (i removed the DC to get rid of too much info on the adventure). The first sentence is from the beginning of the para the rest is from the end of the same para ===>

PCs might attempt to seduce one of the elves to provoke the other into becoming jealous.... An especially direct PC can attempt a DC XX Diplomacy check to invite both of the elves to join the PC in a group romantic encounter...;

edited to remove more adventure info.

[Paul Watson]

Justinian9 wrote:

Rysky wrote:

How does getting two people to go on a date = we're gonna have a sex scene play out???

Edit: I actually went and read that part, it's not even that, you're just getting them to admit their fillings for each other. Where are you getting sex from?

Where am I getting sex from, they cannot directly say group sex but what is this (i removed the DC to get rid of too much info on the adventure). The first sentence is from the beginning of the para the rest is from the end of the same para ===>

PCs might attempt to seduce one of the elves to provoke the other into becoming jealous.... An especially direct PC can attempt a DC XX Diplomacy check to invite both of the elves to join the PC in a group romantic encounter...;

edited to remove more adventure info.

A dinner date with two couples is a group romantic encounter. Romance doesn't have to be sex.

EDIT: However, this is really off-topic and should probably be discussed in a Cult of Cinders thread.

[Justinian9]

Paul Watson wrote:

EDIT: However, this is really off-topic and should probably be discussed in a Cult of Cinders thread.

Agree

[Deadmanwalking]

Justinian9 wrote:

An especially direct PC can attempt a DC XX Diplomacy check to invite both of the elves to join the PC in a group romantic encounter...;

In addition to romantic not necessarily equaling sexual, this is an entirely GM facing thing. Its advice for the GM if PCs decide to take that path. A player should never read it. And seriously adult content in GM facing stuff is nothing new for Paizo. I wouldn't say this qualifies, but some other stuff I've seen in other APs definitely does.

But yeah, this is off topic, so I'll drop it from here.

[Perpdepog]

PossibleCabbage wrote:

If you want to know basically everything about Hellknights in PF2, you should get:

-The LO World Guide
-The LO Character Guide
-The Old Cheliax region book.
- APs as appropriate.

At issue is that the Character Guide is next month and the region specific books haven't been solicited yet (but I figure Old Cheliax might be high on the list.)

I'm definitely expecting this kind of move as well. Lumping all of the regions into larger meta-regions might even have been done to facilitate making more digestible books focused on those regions. True, we'll lose some of the hyper focus that we saw with books focused on a single nation, but by the same token the line is meant to be for both players and GMs, so I anticipate a lot of the space that would normally be filled with loads of location fluff being filled with items/archetypes/etc instead, with more location-centric information placed in the Adventure Paths.

[BobTheCoward]

We played before most people had the internet, and you could only have one sourcebook. It was fine. We had fun.

[David knott 242]

PossibleCabbage wrote:

If you want to know basically everything about Hellknights in PF2, you should get:

-The LO World Guide
-The LO Character Guide
-The Old Cheliax region book.
- APs as appropriate.

At issue is that the Character Guide is next month and the region specific books haven't been solicited yet (but I figure Old Cheliax might be high on the list.)

Don't forget the Path of the Hellknight book from the PF1 Campaign Setting line.

[Perpdepog]

I think Cabbage was more pointing to the PF2 resources that would presumably have Hellknight-focused content.

That being said I totally recommend Path of the Hellknight, even if you're running PF2. it's one of my favorite Campaign Setting books. No I'm not biased because I love Hellknight lore shut up.

[Justinian9]

Ya, I bought it, just got the hard copy a couple days ago. Thank goodness for PDF downloads so I could read it right away. Lots of good info in it, but I really want to see how they structure the hellknight orders and what feats and boons you get.