In need of 2nd opinion before declaring spawn.


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Hello everyone.

So here's the situation. Team had entered a vampire sanctum and got a near TPK.

In the sanctum are 7 coffins on the map. Three for plot vampires, and 4 for general use.

There are however 7 vampire spawn in the sanctum who, i assume through command of being forbidden to enter coffins of plot vampires (leaders), must utilize those 4.

Both leaders can manage a group of 3, which happen to occupy room A and room B (inner sanctum).

One spawn has a name and role to play, which often suggests being a right hand man/woman.
This suggests, for me, that right hand and 2 adds, are the spawn under main leader's control.

The three spawn in inner sanctum group 2, under command of leader 2.

This is where my asking about comes into play.
Spawn group 1 all go down and flee to a general coffin, and a 4th was already in use shortly before.

Vampires without coffins die their 2nd death.
This leaves group 2 without coffins to flee to. Assuming those three die, leader 2 is left without spawn, but she did kill a PC with drain.

IC, i reckon she would spawn him, being responsible for a triple kill which included the other 2 plot vampires. However, before i would say this to my players, i would like to know if this is reasonable.

Of note, i generally stick to clockwise and alphabetical order with names. (That further supports the control presented above)

Thanks in advance.

The Exchange

It's a little confusing to figure out exactly what you are asking here. I'm not sure why you're so focused on the coffins: Vampire Spawn (the Vampire Spawn creature type, not a full vampire made by a master), don't have the defensive ability to retreat to a coffin when reduced to 0 hp. They die. Which are these creatures?

The central question seems to be: "should I turn the player character into a spawn?" I don't know why the vampire wouldn't choose to create a spawn. He's lost some very valuable minions. Unless it's going to cause a huge rift with your players I would do it. Whether he makes it a Vampire Spawn or a full vampire is up to the GM (you).

Flagged for movement to the advice forum. This is the forum for discussing GM questions on Pathfinder Society and Starfinder Society scenarios.


The coffin came into it from reading vampire spawn on the d20 website.

Vampire spawn creature (not template)

(i often used d20pfsrd, though archives of nethys mentions no such thing, now that i look at it, after your mention of it)


Also, the coffin's are vampire specific.
It must reach its own coffin... not any old coffin.

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