| MisterPlacebo |
"Is he going for some hard level of realism where you have to track things like bathroom use?"
Nope, I just have a goblin, and he is a very gobliny goblin, and that feels like something he would do to his opponent.
Next question would be, could this be counted as a dirty trick, or some other type of action? As far as I can tell, no one has addressed this topic.
I'm also working with my GM to allow my character to use craft alchemy by just eating the ingredients and hoping things go well. I'm beginning to really enjoy goblins.
| MisterPlacebo |
I mean, overall I do think it would proc an AOO, but I'm just kind of curious if this has been addressed before, or if there's a rule it fits well under, and what it would be considered. I'm not sure I agree with it being a ranged attack, maybe ranged touch if you're going to go that route, but I'm not sure that fits the best either.
| Dave Justus |
and maybe some circumstantial support to justify that this is indeed something that you can quickly pull out
Hopefully this won't involve any real life demonstrations.
On a more serious note, this is the sort of thing that could not go over well with some groups. Make sure everyone in comfortable with this sort of adolescent slapstick humor and that they are happy with a less serious game before you make a character like this. I personally don't think it would be appropriate for a PFS table where you didn't know who was going to be playing, for example.
| MisterPlacebo |
On a more serious note, this is the sort of thing that could not go over well with some groups. Make sure everyone in comfortable with this sort of adolescent slapstick humor and that they are happy with a less serious game before you make a character like this. I personally don't think it would be appropriate for a PFS table where you didn't know who was going to be playing, for example.
GM rolled us random characters, now we have to make them work. So yeah, it's not an incredibly serious game.
Selvaxri
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well, it is a move action to drop your trousers and undo your breeches, so one would assume that provokes. unless your goblin runs around completely nekkid... then, EWWWWWWWWWWW
as a gm, i'd say urinating on someone is a Dirty Trick as "Range touch vs Opponent's Sense Motive" with Critical Effect: Sicken
But real question is- are goblins housebroken or completely incontinent?
| Daw |
Well, more importantly, do you trust your GM not to then declare your "weapon/launcher" now subject to disarm/sunder attacks? Do you want to be nicknamed stumpy? OK, as a goblin that might well be a step up. You can of course expect tasteless and interminable jocularity about weapon size categories and such distractions. Do you have a drunken fratboy dominated PFS chapter?
| Meirril |
I've got two thoughts on this. Other than a dirty trick, I can also see urinating on an opponent being used as intimidation.
The other thought is...can the goblin finish in 6 seconds? Lets assume out goblin just walks around without pants. If he starts urinating, can you really expect him to just stop in a standard action? This sounds suspiciously like it should be a multi-round action.
Gray Warden
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I've got two thoughts on this. Other than a dirty trick, I can also see urinating on an opponent being used as intimidation.
The other thought is...can the goblin finish in 6 seconds? Lets assume out goblin just walks around without pants. If he starts urinating, can you really expect him to just stop in a standard action? This sounds suspiciously like it should be a multi-round action.
You can finish in a standard action by converting the single-target ranged touch attack in a 15ft cone scatter attack.
| lemeres |
I would say that "retrieving a stored item" would be one of the necessary actions (assuming you are not nude; even kilts need to be moved out of the way). then the ranged touch attack (unless you are doing the "extinguish flames" action- that doesn't draw an AoO). Then you have to store the item again.
| VoodistMonk |
Having been to parts of the world where PEOPLE take it upon themselves to piss wherever they want, I seriously doubt Goblins ever suffer from "stage fright".
Goblins are like toddlers... they eat their own snot, play with poop, and pee wherever they want. And, they eat, sleep, play, and work in this environment for the duration of their pathetic Goblin lives.
Can the Goblin finish urinating in 6 seconds? Probably not. But it only needs to hit the enemy in the face on command... the rest runs down the gross Goblin legs into a gross Goblin piss puddle.
Can a Goblin urinate on command? Probably better than it can speak Common, bet your ass on it.
| Peachbottom |
I'd say it depends if the urination is intentional or reactionary.
If intentional to aim at an opponent it would probably be a ranged touch attack as a standard action with a range increment of 5 ft. Really talented goblins could attempt to go for distance at additional range increments.
But it could also be done as a swift action reaction to something done by the opponent. Most likely anything with the [fear] effect. Then the goblin would just urinate in his own square and soil himself.
I suppose you could also give it a third option to just let things flap in the wind. If his privates are exposed, he could urinate as part of a move action as he runs and let it target random squares along his path as splash damage, with a Reflex save to avoid.
| Whisperer in Darkness |
-3 on the limerick for form, meter, and rhyme.
A Girl Named Anheuser
There once was a girl named Anheuser,
who said that no man could surprise her.
But Pabst took a chance,
found the Schlitz in her pants,
and now she is sadder Budweiser.
- listed in Brookston Beer Bulletin
some crass provocation in the thread.
The most similar action is Retrieve an item which is a move action that provokes. The AoO is provoked before a standard|full|CM Dirty trick(standard) action is taken.
| Whisperer in Darkness |
Whisperer in Darkness wrote:-3 on the limerick for form, meter, and rhyme.No fair grading it as a limerick when it's clearly a quatrain.
nope, the form posted was AABC by meter or maayyybee AABB by rhyme, see Quatrain. balls(1) to overalls(3)... hmmm.... an extra line of A at the end would have made it a limerick which is where this seemed to be headed, thus a line short. Dats my critique fer tha day.
"Potato?! Potahto!" said she,
"And of course it's tomahto, you see.
But the square of ct
Minus x squared will be
Always something on which we agree." - Physics limericks, D.Morin circa 2004
| Scott Wilhelm |
Whisperer in Darkness wrote:-3 on the limerick for form, meter, and rhyme.awwwee shucks. :-( thats the last time i'm posting on crass threads.
DUDES!
It's not a limerick at all! It's couplets! There's nothing wrong that! It's not heroic couplets--not in iambic pentameter. Admittedly, that would be cooler. But if you can't tell the difference between a limerick and a couplet, you deserve no better, and neither do I just because I conversing with you!