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Gimme my Wong Fei Hong styles that let me redirect attacks, adaptably use ANYTHING as an effective weapon without needing it to be an expensive magic weapon and I PROMISE to stop making new Monk threads every few weeks.

Midnightoker |

Gimme my Wong Fei Hong styles that let me redirect attacks, adaptably use ANYTHING as an effective weapon without needing it to be an expensive magic weapon and I PROMISE to stop making new Monk threads every few weeks.
100% would love to see this style make it in (even if not Core).
It's super common trope (Spiderman, pretty much every Jackie Chan role, heck even Mulan does it with the Fan disarm on Shan Hu's sword) in Martial Arts.
Throw Anything/Improvised Weapon/Improvised Shield/Improvised Armor?
It sort of requires your GM to be a little forth coming with random stuff in whatever scenario you are in (or a Portable Hole on the ceiling with a bunch of junk in it).
"Everything is a weapon"

PossibleCabbage |
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When I read the post about the Int monk I was thinking about that very Sherlock Holmes scene...
In fact, "Holmes is an accomplished boxer because he is such an astute observer of humanity and can predict people's moves in advance" is from the novels. Which is why I was amused whenever anybody complained about that particular scene.
But in light of that, I wonder if the "Intelligence based brawler" concept shouldn't belong to the Investigator or whatever occupies its thematic niche, since the most iconic exemplar of "Real Smart and Fights Without Weapons" in fiction probably is Holmes.
As for anathema the way to do this is probably to let monks take vows which give anathema and offer mechanical benefits- there is, after all, precedence for this.

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Captain Morgan wrote:A bunch of stuff I agree withNO I AGREE WITH YOU MORE
Quote:daredevil stuffI'll have to concede on the DD bit, I was under the impression the backstory and involvement with Stick were not as defined in canon but it's been a while since I've taken a dive into the comics.
Given I mis remember things all the time, this is probably one of those instances. Apologies.
No worries bud. I think Dare Devil is an odd duck because he's kind of Ironfist but also kind of Batman, and different authors focus on or neglect either aspect. Sometimes he's getting possessed by shadow demons fighting the Hand, and other times it is gritty crime noir stuff. Comics are all over the place. Splitting hairs about them just happens to be one of my great passions.

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OCEANSHIELDWOLPF 2.0 wrote:When I read the post about the Int monk I was thinking about that very Sherlock Holmes scene...In fact, "Holmes is an accomplished boxer because he is such an astute observer of humanity and can predict people's moves in advance" is from the novels. Which is why I was amused whenever anybody complained about that particular scene.
But in light of that, I wonder if the "Intelligence based brawler" concept shouldn't belong to the Investigator or whatever occupies its thematic niche, since the most iconic exemplar of "Real Smart and Fights Without Weapons" in fiction probably is Holmes.
As for anathema the way to do this is probably to let monks take vows which give anathema and offer mechanical benefits- there is, after all, precedence for this.
Indeed, I remember a scene in one of the novels where some huge ruffian is acting as a bouncer at a door Watson wants to get through, and he lights up when he sees Holmes and talk about how impressively he got his ass whooped by Holmes a few weeks back. The Ruffian then lets them in unmolested. Good times.

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OCEANSHIELDWOLPF 2.0 wrote:When I read the post about the Int monk I was thinking about that very Sherlock Holmes scene...In fact, "Holmes is an accomplished boxer because he is such an astute observer of humanity and can predict people's moves in advance" is from the novels. Which is why I was amused whenever anybody complained about that particular scene.
But in light of that, I wonder if the "Intelligence based brawler" concept shouldn't belong to the Investigator or whatever occupies its thematic niche, since the most iconic exemplar of "Real Smart and Fights Without Weapons" in fiction probably is Holmes.
As for anathema the way to do this is probably to let monks take vows which give anathema and offer mechanical benefits- there is, after all, precedence for this.
Investigator?
That's exactly what Studied Combat is. And THE reason I like the class. :3But yeah... A bit mort support on the Unarmed use of that would be swell. I can't wait to see the PF2 version!

Arachnofiend |
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OCEANSHIELDWOLPF 2.0 wrote:When I read the post about the Int monk I was thinking about that very Sherlock Holmes scene...In fact, "Holmes is an accomplished boxer because he is such an astute observer of humanity and can predict people's moves in advance" is from the novels. Which is why I was amused whenever anybody complained about that particular scene.
But in light of that, I wonder if the "Intelligence based brawler" concept shouldn't belong to the Investigator or whatever occupies its thematic niche, since the most iconic exemplar of "Real Smart and Fights Without Weapons" in fiction probably is Holmes.
As for anathema the way to do this is probably to let monks take vows which give anathema and offer mechanical benefits- there is, after all, precedence for this.
Can't wait to mock Vow of Poverty in yet another edition...

Erk Ander |

A One Punch Man punch doesn't knock people prone. They are usually still standing after it, but their entire torso has exploded. I don't actually see any relation to the feat.
I wasn't being literal, should have been more clear. Maybe I am misremembering but has he not knocked folks (in the case where he doesn't kill them outright). Either way you get my point. The idea is that monk should be able to punch folks with such force as to knock them prone. As of now the Barb has that ability and its imo much better than the knockdown strike

Captain Morgan |

Captain Morgan wrote:A One Punch Man punch doesn't knock people prone. They are usually still standing after it, but their entire torso has exploded. I don't actually see any relation to the feat.I wasn't being literal, should have been more clear. Maybe I am misremembering but has he not knocked folks (in the case where he doesn't kill them outright). Either way you get my point. The idea is that monk should be able to punch folks with such force as to knock them prone. As of now the Barb has that ability and its imo much better than the knockdown strike
If he doesn't kill them outright, they are at least knocked out, which goes beyond prone.
Personally I've been house ruling That combat maneuvers don't interact with multiple attack penalties, so folks don't really need feats like this anyway. It has worked well so far.

Staffan Johansson |
Staffan Johansson wrote:So this scene from 1:40? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGCMfprPJoAMidnightoker wrote:Int is hard for me to visualize, perhaps someone else can paint the picture for me there.I could see a martial art based around prediction and precision - you might not hit people super-hard, but you hit them in just the right place. Your opponents miss you, because you have analyzed their fighting style and determined the perfect counter.
I mean, I'm not sure it's a good idea, but it can be done.
I haven't seen the movie, but that kind of thing was exactly what I meant. Sherlock Holmes did come to mind as well, though I was probably thinking more about the modern versions (Bandersnatch Cummerbund or Jonny Lee Miller).